Topic: Donnie Darko and seeing the future

I hope that this isn't redundant....if so excuse me for starting a new post on the topic.

However I have had some experiences in the past few years which lead me to believe that Donnie Darko is really on to something in the scene in which he questions his teacher (played by Noah Wilde) about being able to know the future.

If I remember correctly, he basically asserts that if your own free will is in line with "God's" will then you can see the future.  His teacher has to discontinue the conversation or he "could lose his job".

I recently had an experience during a powerful meditation session up here in the mountains.  I was meditating on some choices I need to make in the near future, choices that are very difficult for me because they will involve disruption of many of my human ties and possibly alienate me from my family....

however, these choices might be necessary for my soul's path.

So while I was sitting in the fear of this possible scenario, and trying to release my ego desires and my ego's plans and the I-don't-want-to-do-this temper tantrums, I finally let go for long enough to "see" what Spirit world is suggesting I do.

And it felt as though, when I dissolved my ego significantly, Spirit world was showing me this future universe.

I know that future universes must be considered possible future universes because the monkey wrenches of so many free-will choices cannot guarantee anything too particular.  But it was as if the universe was showing me how things would play out.

Anybody have any comments on this?  I feel a need to maintain some skepticism, cause these are really big decisions I am examining, and I want to make them because they are the right thing to do, not because of some "vision" of future rewards they might bring....

But can anybody speak to this?  Anybody have any experiences of this?

These days, all I know is that I don't really know.....

2 (edited by Neomatrix 2004-12-14 20:29:47)

Re: Donnie Darko and seeing the future

tillibullu wrote:

Anybody have any comments on this?  I feel a need to maintain some skepticism, cause these are really big decisions I am examining, and I want to make them because they are the right thing to do

Illusion! Drop immediately from your consciousness any notion of the reality of a "right" and a "wrong" decision. There is no such thing; the future does not yet exist, so don't try too hard to predict the validity of any possible outcomes. You can only live in the moment, which is right now. The only correct decision is the one that feels correct at the time it is made. Forget about any socially-imposed restrictions for a moment; forget too the expectations of any other people in your life. This is simply about you. What do *you* want to do?

tillibullu wrote:

These days, all I know is that I don't really know.....

Exactly! You don't know! No one does! smile

Here is the bottom line: Make the decision which you feel best supports your growth as an individual. Although change can be a painful thing in the short term, it can often be necessary and beneficial in the long term. The mere fact that you are now being presented with the opportunity for such change within your life is actually the clearest indication that perhaps such change is necessary. But, if you choose to close this door right now, then others will no doubt open up in the future. It's really up to you.

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

Re: Donnie Darko and seeing the future

NeoMatrix,

Thanks I really appreciate your response.

So do you not believe there are any predestined acts or projects?
I believe---I would say I know---that there are predestined themes, goals, general-issues-to-tackle decided upon before incarnating.  I know in my heart that there are themes I came here to explore, express, understand, and (one day) to share the wisdom from that process.

But do you not believe there are particulars that might be pre-ordained?

Do you think it is possible, for example, that I was destined to meet my teacher?  Destined to find yoga?  Destined to be a writer?

Are some specifics pre-encoded?

Do you not believe that future MEs might come back to contact me to encourage me to make particular decisions?

I never used to believe this was possible, but I am getting some strong messages and I feel like the universe is trying to tell me somethin!  I just feel confused now about the boundaries between my free will choices and the Great Spirit's choices....

I am starting to think that if they differ I will never find contentment....

that my only choice is to make the choice that is in alignment with the bigger picture.  But this means sacrificing some petty attachments, and my claws are dug deep into those attachments.

I know in my heart I will do the right thing, but in the interim before I make the choices I want to explore this area of energy a bit....

I warn you, I'm a Libra, we are prone to equivocate for a while before making a choice.  I hope I don't drive you nuts in the process!

We are obsessed with making the "right" choice, but I think you are correct that I need to drop this notion of right and wrong decisions.  It doesn't help.

Is this some martyr complex? 

Shall I be a Messiah or not?  : )

4 (edited by Neomatrix 2004-12-14 21:25:14)

Re: Donnie Darko and seeing the future

tillibullu wrote:

So do you not believe there are any predestined acts or projects?
I believe---I would say I know---that there are predestined themes, goals, general-issues-to-tackle decided upon before incarnating.  I know in my heart that there are themes I came here to explore, express, understand, and (one day) to share the wisdom from that process.

Yes, I strongly feel that there are specific things that we came here to do or learn. It isn't so much that they were, or are, predestined in a fixed sense. I think it is more along the lines of us simply wanting to come here to do things that we hadn't done before, or didn't get to do during our previous lives. But of course, when we incarnate here we forget all about them! Learning to listen to our intuition is often like hearing a small, still voice that reminds of us those things.

tillibullu wrote:

But do you not believe there are particulars that might be pre-ordained?

I think that only the *intention* to do such things is pre-ordained (or pre-existing). That does not however guarantee success.

tillibullu wrote:

Do you think it is possible, for example, that I was destined to meet my teacher?  Destined to find yoga?  Destined to be a writer?

It is possible, although I'm not too sure how probable it is. There is a certain random element to life here. Sometimes things that happen are just happy accidents. And then at other times, they are anything but accidental.

tillibullu wrote:

Are some specifics pre-encoded?

Pre-encoded ... within us? Previous life elements such as memories and personalities are encoded within us before incarnation. The desire to perform specific functions during physical life is often as a result of this unique admixture.

tillibullu wrote:

Do you not believe that future MEs might come back to contact me to encourage me to make particular decisions?

Future you's ... in a nonphysical sense? That would be what many here refer to as communication with your Higher Self. And yes, it definitely does occur. That voice of intuition again smile

tillibullu wrote:

I never used to believe this was possible, but I am getting some strong messages and I feel like the universe is trying to tell me somethin!  I just feel confused now about the boundaries between my free will choices and the Great Spirit's choices....

Don't get too hung up on the concept of free will. We exist here in this place with much limitation imposed upon us, albeit for a good reason. What are the boundaries? Hmmmn, I need an analogy here. Hmmn, okay -- here is one way to picture it. You are a bus driver. Your job is to drive a bus from location A to location B. The bus is loaded full of passengers. There are two unique problems, however. The first problem is that you do not know how to get to location B from location A, but the passengers do. The second problem is that there is a very thick wall-to-wall, roof-to-floor screen sitting between you and the passengers: you cannot see them, and you can barely hear them shouting directions to you as you drive. So, although those passengers are back there screaming "turn left!" or "turn right!" or "keep on going straight!" you are the one in control. Those passengers are all actually other parts of you, other personalities existing within your own Higher Self (the bus). They can shout advice and directions, but it always remains your decision as to where and when the wheel gets turned.

tillibullu wrote:

I am starting to think that if they differ I will never find contentment.... that my only choice is to make the choice that is in alignment with the bigger picture.  But this means sacrificing some petty attachments, and my claws are dug deep into those attachments.

It is up to you. It all depends upon whether you are too attached to the things that you have now, or whether you prefer the possibility of simply creating new attachments. But first you need to figure out why you have your claws dug so deeply into your current attachments: what are they doing for you?

tillibullu wrote:

I warn you, I'm a Libra, we are prone to equivocate for a while before making a choice.  I hope I don't drive you nuts in the process!

You haven't yet wink

tillibullu wrote:

We are obsessed with making the "right" choice, but I think you are correct that I need to drop this notion of right and wrong decisions.  It doesn't help. Is this some martyr complex?

No, just a human complex. We all want some degree of security and familiarity in our lives.

tillibullu wrote:

Shall I be a Messiah or not?  : )

No one is going to nail you to a cross here! Well, no one except yourself if you don't make a decision either way and stick to it. Remember that bus I talked about above? Well, right now you are pretty much stuck in neutral gear at a crossroads. The passengers are all shouting, but you are still wrestling with the gear shift wink

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

Re: Donnie Darko and seeing the future

NeoMatrix, you really have me chuckling with the bus analogy.

And believe me, the people in my head are quite a motley crew busload!  There's an old fat bald white guy with tatoos wearing a wife-beater, I can see a pirate, there's a freakish acrobat contorting herself, a young vixen, oh, there's a rabbit, what's he doing there?, some jugglers, a horse, an uptight schoolmistress, a few cats, a crying toddler, a gangbanger with lots of gold chains, a screaming banshee, an old senile granny cursing them all out......

you get the picture!

I wish they could all shut the hell up and agree on one direction and just sing together in harmony....

6 (edited by Neomatrix 2004-12-14 23:07:42)

Re: Donnie Darko and seeing the future

tillibullu wrote:

NeoMatrix, you really have me chuckling with the bus analogy.

Yeah, I gave myself a good giggle writing it. But, it is a very accurate analogy in many ways smile

tillibullu wrote:

And believe me, the people in my head are quite a motley crew busload!  There's an old fat bald white guy with tatoos wearing a wife-beater, I can see a pirate, there's a freakish acrobat contorting herself, a young vixen, oh, there's a rabbit, what's he doing there?, some jugglers, a horse, an uptight schoolmistress, a few cats, a crying toddler, a gangbanger with lots of gold chains, a screaming banshee, an old senile granny cursing them all out...... you get the picture!

Wow -- I do now!

tillibullu wrote:

I wish they could all shut the hell up and agree on one direction and just sing together in harmony....

Well, they are all individuals with their own perspectives on things. That's why you're the driver, though: at the end of the day, it's your decision to make smile

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe