Topic: Self Transforming Machine Elves?
Hi guys,
I find this an interesting topic. I myself have read extensivelly on dmt and find it to be a fascinating chemical and experience.
The constant entity/alien contact people seem to experience on dmt seems to suggest one of two possibilities, it's all the construct of the mind no matter how zany or outlandish it may be or it is the other, whatever that other may be.
The intriguiging thing about the DMT experience is an archetypal simularity in peoples experiences.
Mckenna desribed it as the archetype of the circus, and through reading The Spirit Molecule, alot articles and trip reports there indeed does seem to be a kind of space/hyperdimension/reality where there are entities of various kinds in this realm that are outlandish, funny and circuis like but also sometimes prankish and cruel.
And the strange thing is that alot of people report seeing the same or similiar beings, the elfish type, a reptillian/salamander, the famous gray type, and insectoid mantis/ant/bee type being are some of the most common entities encountered by dmt voyages however there are also other types aswell.
If we take the notion that this space and beings are not just constructs of a overactive imagination due to a chemical pertubation in the mind (and my gut feeling is that it is not) then what we are left with is what sci fi writers/the ufo community/ seti etc have been after all along, an actual communication/contact with the other.
Now this other could be many things, a parallel reality, dark matter, a higher dimension etc but if this is so than dmt is not so much a drug but an actual way for the mind to tune into this space of information and alien contact.
David Bohm an American quantum physicist wrote extensively about something he refers to as the implicite order which can be summed up in the following cut and paste:
'Bohm's holomovement is in a transcendental realm in which the manifest space-time is absent. Again, the implicate order cannot be perceived. Space-time is projected as manifest explicate order from this implicate order.' It is this explicit order, according to Bohm, that is all that we perceive, both externally and internally'
So DMT might possibly be the a way to actually glimpse at this implicate order whatever it may be.
My own personal beleifs are that since serotonin is the major chemical that allows our mind to function and observe this reality, by ingesting dmt the mind tunes into a different frequency of reality/dimension/(you name it) so to speak and we see what is normally inaccasible and masked from direct observation.
I also beleive that human DNA and DMT somehow play an intergral role in the dmt experience, something along the lines of DMT allowing accessing to far greater amounts of a persons DNA (which I see as a form of some kind of incredibly complex technology) to allow ones consciousness access to these spaces.
The actual beings themselves are the most fascinating part of the dmt experience. Most people have probably read about Mckenna's descriptions of the tyke/elf machines that occur at the peak of the dmt flash that show u impossible objects.
Mckenna's theories on these things is that they could be one of a number of things: 1 us in the future, 2 a race of hyperintelligent beings, 3 souls of the dead, human or otherwise, 4 angelic/demonic entities as stated in gnostic texts (angels/archons?) and various religions throughout history, 5 Currently unknown phenomena.
The Gnostic angle is rather interesting, reading a little bit about Gnostiscm and the Sophia mythos from the metahistory.org site i came upon an intersting snippet about how fractals relate to the Gnostic mythology:
"The Gaia Mythos describes how the impact of the Aeon Sophia upon the density of atomic matter produced a massive fracture, like the shatter pattern on an ice pond. The pattern has a center where Sophia is located (identified by the Mandelbrot Set), and a spider-web extension of fracture lines that run in all directions (the frozen sea of fractal waves). Episode 9 describes how Sophia, situated in the center of the impact zone, sees around Her something like a sea of tensile waves, and riding the waves, or actually composing the waves they appear to ride, are self-repeating forms that resemble seashorses. These seahorses are similar to the forms that appear at high reiteration of the equation for the Mandelbrot Set. These forms correspond to the anatomical type spontaneously generated from formless atomic matter by Sophia's impact, a type called the "shadow body," haibes in Coptic.
A word on fractals: although fractal-like patterns appear in nature (in ferns, for instance: the disposition of the leaves on a stem is repeated in the form of the stemmed branches), the self-similar forms produced by high iteration are not natural, strictly speaking. Fractals such as those pictured here result from feeding a mathematical formula into a computer and having the formula reprocess itself, over and over again. However, the forms so produced do resemble the famous "paisley" seen by many people who took LSD in the 1960s. I would argue, first, that fractals are consistently seen in altered states, and second, that the patterns thus seen may also represent real, though supernatural processes in the cosmos at large. "
This is rather an interesting statement as many if not all experiences of DMT break into a "fractal landscape" of sorts where they are occasionaly confronted by various types of 'entities'.
Another theory/idea I have read is that these things are the Elohim or our creator gods, they are not god per se but a very intelligent race of entities that do not exist in this dimension/reality but have a far greater freedom so to speak( kind of like a person looking into a fishtank) and were the fish!
Mckenna mentions that at the peak of the flash when he enters this space he calls the dome, he mentions that he feels like there is immense weight above him like he is far underground and on one time he described the dmt flash as a pulling sensation, something was pulling him downwards very deeply.
This is interesting because I had read this channeled information ( bit skeptical of that stuff ) but anyway this was from the Cosmic Awareness channeled sessions and was entitled "Elohim Planted Huge Computer In the Bowels of Earth", heres a bit of what it had to say:
'This Awareness indicates that deep within the bowels of this earth is a computer, which is beyond the understanding of present science, which was placed here approximately one million years ago by a race of entities
known as the Els, or Elders, who have since transcened time and space and moved into at which is Celestria.
This Awareness indicates these entities also known as the Elohim.
This Awareness indicates that these entities had the wisdom and understanding and capabilities of creating planets by manipulatin magnetic forces and electric fields so that the mass would move into these vertices to create those planets, an follow the magnetic field set up by their forces.'
And here's what it said about this computer:
'That these computers do not have moving parts but rather
relate to crystals which emanate energies, which affect certain areas of consciousness and which read and receive impressions from consciousness.
This may be understood better by a parallel whereby one considers the concept of music,where a note is struck and many vibrations come forth from that note. This Awareness suggests that wherein this could be registered on a screen entities would see the initial note and see the overtones or vibrations coming from that note and see also further vibrations coming from each of those secondary vibrations, and so forth.
This Awareness indicates that the computer works in a similar manner whereby certain energy is emanated which has its effect on certain stress points in the earth's structure, which then emanates certain energies out into certain other points. These relate to leys,--this spelled I-e-y-s, or lines,--these as magnetic Iines and their cross-points with other magnetic lines and the forces then emanate from these leys and cross-points out into consciuusness into the atmosphere, and from there reflect in the culture of the people of that particular areas and in further reflections affects individuals.'
An interesting theory which does sound a little like a dmt flash.
Whatever these states are and wherever they take you (if anywhere!) , they are definatley fascinating!