Topic: Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor

A few years before reading Juan’s reference to the ‘foreign instillation’, Marciniak’s Ps had talked about something ‘placed’ in the back of the head that limited perception.......

WE know that DMT is Naturally Produced

But then almost immediately zapped by Monoamine Oxidase.......


So that WE, As The Living Library

Have be walled off, only able to access the ‘magazine’ section of ‘reality’.......

Might Not Be A Bad Idea To Focus OUR Collective Magicks Specifically To The Dissolution Of This > barrier.......

Leading To:

From:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2527

And:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2995   #18

The closest thing that we can say to you is it would be like you are tripping, but it will be nothing like that. When you are tripping, you go some place different, you experience it, and you come back. What will happen is that the hypothalmus will have you dwell there and you will have changed everything so that you will be happy to dwell there, you will not want to dwell in the old place. It will be as if you moved to a new land, literally like moving to a new planet without leaving Earth. Earth and Earth's reality in the Living Library will change before your eyes because the chemicals that will be secreted through the hypothalmus will give you a literal new interpretation of reality.

From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_ … _inhibitor

Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor

Traditional and entheogenic use

Monoamine oxidase inhibitors can be used to potentiate the effect of a number of hallucinogenic drugs, notably phenethylamines, tryptamines and several others.

Ayahuasca, an entheogenic brew traditionally used in strict ritual context by South American native tribes, is a mixture of Banisteriopsis caapi, a vine containing various harmala alkaloids, and another plant containing N,N-DMT or 5-MeO-DMT alkaloids, usually Psychotria viridis or Diplopterys cabrerana. Modern, western analogues to ayahuasca often substitute Syrian Rue for B. caapi and Mimosa hostilis as a DMT source. As DMT is inactive orally on its own, it must be combined with an MAOI when taken orally in order to cause psychedelic effects.

From:

http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/dmt.html

DMT, Moses, and the Quest for Transcendence
by Cliff Pickover

DMT in the pineal glands of Biblical prophets gave God to humanity and let ordinary humans perceive parallel universes.

The molecule DMT (N,N-Dimethyltryptamine) is a psychoactive chemical that causes intense visions and can induce its users to quickly enter a completely different ‘environment’ that some have likened to an alien or parallel universe. The transition from our world to theirs occurs with no cessation of consciousness or quality of awareness.

Terence McKenna: Right here and now, one quanta away, there is raging a universe of active intelligence that is transhuman, hyperdimensional, and extremely alien... What is driving religious feeling today is a wish for contact with this other universe.

Imagine a creature or phenomena that has been lurking among us since the dawn of evolution. If our ancient ancestors died every time they perceived the phenomena, evolution would favor creatures who did not perceive the creatures or phenomena.

.......However, perhaps our traditional instruments and theories are also not up to the task. Or perhaps our interpretation of the instruments' results is incomplete. Perhaps DMT is an instrument.

As a metaphor, consider infrared goggles. A person leans on a tree. At night, we don't see the person. Put the goggles on, and a new reality results -- a truer reality -- and we see the man. Similarly, is it possible that our brain is a filter, and the use of DMT is like slipping on infrared goggles, allowing us to perceive a valid reality that is inches away and all around us?

Is it possible that that some of our human ancestors produced more DMT than we do today? For example, many of the ancient Bible stories describe prophets with DMT-like experiences.

One way to imagine how other realities could exist side by side with our own is to consider the forces that produced the diversity of senses and intelligences right here on Earth. In a real way, there are already alien worlds right here among us. Every Earthly creature perceives the world in an ‘alien’ way. Dogs. Bees. Bats. Cats. They experience the world with different kinds of senses.

Our sense of reality would be different; our way of thinking would be different, and even the practical technology we would produce would be different. We do not have to contemplate aliens or science fiction to imagine alien like senses and bodies. The animal world of Earth is so diverse and full of different senses, that creatures are already walking among us possessing ‘alien’ awarenesses beyond our understanding.

Tufr says: By the way, if DMT acts to reveal the true reality, I believe it would be more accurate to label it a machine not an instrument. As far as I know, instruments are used to measure things, and machines perform work. Waking us up and pushing us into the real universe and out of our limited perception would be real work, so I think DMT would aptly be called a machine not an instrument.

From Michael: Excellent article, Cliff. I wonder if the small amount of DMT already present in the human brain is there to act as a catalyst when the right conditions are extant. Perhaps under times of stress, when endorphins are most readily manufactured in the brain, and other hormonal balances are shifted DMT production may also be stimulated or a small percentage (that already present) of DMT will suffice tip open the 'gateway' to changed perception.

To take them as the habitants of higher realms or more refined realities moves the speculation in one direction. In what direction would we proceed if the creatures were seen with a an eye towards metaphor? It could be that these sprites represent Jungian gestalt types. If this idea has any merit, here is where I make a big stretch. It could be that under certain circumstances DMT plays a role in a person's personal growth. Or, at least DMT is part and parcel to those moments and experiences having the potential to stimulate one's life into inquiry as to the nature of existence.

Gary A. says:  Hallucinogenic substances such as DMT open the door between world: the physical and the non-physical. Various visions such as the tunnel, meeting dead relatives while people on the operating table, etc; have to be ‘explained away’ in the orthodox theory. Again, no problem with the holographic viewpoint. The entire universe is ‘encoded’ within the brain, acting as a monitor for anything, anywhere: images in a non-spatial/non-temporal context, more like the atmosphere of Jupiter rather than a linear pathway. Substances like DMT suck you into immense eddies of universal awareness not easily dismissed as ‘hallucinations‘, among those with direct experience in these matters.

I experimented with DMT on several occasions in the past, and found that it provided access to a truly extraordinary mindspace, perhaps most importantly characterized by the preposterous but nevertheless wholly convincing sensation that ‘it’ (the DMT induced 'mind-space') was far closer to 'reality as it really is' than ordinary, everyday experience. I was left with the curious impression that ordinary, everyday experience might more aptly be characterized as the hallucination here, and that the 'warped' impression of reality I experienced under the influence of DMT was in fact more 'genuine'.

From Barry M.
Ananda (and a couple other 'new age' mentors...Drunvalo Melchizidek being another) had head injuries at an early age that resulted in the decalcification (jump start) of the pineal gland, thus producing additional amounts of DMT and the resulting 'cosmic info window' that opened for them into varying techniques of activating the Merkaba body tied holonomicly/fractally to the center of the Galaxy (Hunabku). Again, the techniques are based on geometric fractals, including bio-sonics and bio-phosphene algorithms.

On one end of the scale is a personal experience of imploding bio-phosphene discharge, the awareness of 'illuminated being'. The rising Kundalini Serpent. At the other, the experience of complete void, yet, an active/kinetic vacuum. Kether to the Qabbalists. In between is what we can make of it all (reality synthesis) and the symbols and archetypes are like building blocks from the encoded DNA book of infinite bi-polar language/expression potential. The bi-polar binary tension/torsion stresses between opposites in cyclic expansion/contraction; fractal spin-resonance. Yin Yang. Mumbo Jumbo. Helter Skelter. Right brain. Left brain. All things polar. The current consensus 'reality' that I am here & you are there. It all certainly appears to be intelligently designed evolution...epigenisis as we used to call it.

From Thomas H.
I have just finished reading Jeremy Narby's Cosmic Serpent and thought it was a fascinating read, he ties a lot of threads and ideas together including shamanism/bioglogy/mythology.

One of the interesting points in the book mentions a passage about an ayahuasca session experienced by Michael Harner, here's some excerpts from his trip:

‘As I tried to accept my fate, an even lower portion of my brain began to transmit more visions and information. I was ‘told’ that this new material was being presented to me because I was dying and therefore ‘safe’ to receive these revelations. These were the secrets reserved for the dying and the dead, I was informed.

I could only very dimly perceive the givers of these thoughts: giant reptilian creatures reposing sluggishly at the lowermost depths of the back of my brain, where it met the top of the spinal column. I could only vaguely see them in what seemed to be gloomy, dark depths. Then they projected a visual scene in front of me. First they showed me the planet Earth as it was eons ago, before there was any life on it. I saw an ocean, barren land, and a bright blue sky.

Then black specks dropped from the sky by the hundreds and landed in front of me on the barren landscape. I could see that the ‘specks’ were actually large, shiny, black creatures with stubby pterodactyl-like wings and huge whale-like bodies. Their heads were not visible to me. They flopped down, utterly exhausted from their trip, resting for eons. They explained to me in a kind of thought language that they were fleeing from something out in space. They had come to the planet Earth to escape their enemy. The creatures then showed me how they had created life on the planet in order to hide within the multitudinous forms and thus disguise their presence.

Before me, the magnificence of plant and animal creation and speciation-hundreds of millions of years of activity-took place on a scale and with a vividness impossible to describe. I learned that the dragon-like creatures were thus inside of all forms of life, including man. They were the true masters of humanity and the entire planet, they told me. We humans were but the receptacles and servants of these creatures. For this reason they could speak to me from within myself.’

At first I told him only the highlights; thus, when I came to the dragon-like creatures, I skipped their arrival from space and only said, ‘There were these giant black animals, something like great bats, longer than the length of this house, who said that they were the true masters of the world.’ There is no word for dragon in Conibo, so ‘giant bat’ was the closest I could come to describe what I had seen.

He stared up toward me with his sightless eyes, and said with a grin, ‘Oh, they're always saying that. But they are only the Masters of Outer Darkness.’

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Re: Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor

DMT dream theory

Before I explain my theory, I think you should have some background information on DMT. DMT, or n,n-dimethyltryptamine, is a powerful psychoactive produced in the pineal gland of the human brain. While the brain produces generous quantities of DMT considering the nature of the chemical, enzymes called MAOs (see MAO Inhibitor) found in the fluids that surround the pineal gland destroy DMT before it can reach the proper signal-receptors in your brain. DMT is produced along with another chemical called Melatonin. Melatonin is produced in higher levels at night than during the day, with its peak hours while you are deep asleep. Because melatonin is MAO resistant, it could quite possibly pave the way for DMT, allowing it to reach it's proper receptors. This is the basis of my theory.

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1193368

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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It seems that castaneda plagied Harner book "the way of chaman".. when he talk about the reptil creatures...A interesting threat this one about DMT.. Also interesting is the website about this issues called somatogenics or something similar that appeared some years ago.. Ananda was the name of the author of this site i think... There are lot of ways to change the chemical balance between melatonin and theother neurotrasmissors...the dark room was one of the methods..but five days in absolutely dark place maybe is to hard for our modern lives..so cemical methods like pharmahuasca analogues maybe are more suitable for the modern psiconauts..
Nacho

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Very interesting, thanks for the info Siri.

This means St.John's Wort herb (Hypericum perforatum), a very potent MAO Inhibitor, is more useful than I've thought. SJW is used as natural anti-depressant now and it's hypotesized that it acts both as MAO inhibitor & Seretonine Reuptake Inhibitor.

There are plenty of chemical MAO inhibitor drugs out there, but I doubt if their aim is supressing DMT more & more.

So, even if I'm not depressed, it may be a good idea to use some SJW extract.

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

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Keep in mind that the use of mao inhibitors (nothing in common with chinese political oposition:D ) is dangerous you should avoid the ingestion of certains foods that contain tiramine and other precautions. As jonathan Ott told me personally some years ago..there are two types of mao inhibitors..one are synthetic pharmaceutical inhibitors used as antidepressants( they are the more dangerous) and they need to be used long time to be effective and other are the natural inhibitors like harmaline, hyperic related alkaloids..and others...belonging to the betacarbolines group..this last group are more safe to use... and work for a short time so you can avoid some dietary restrictions that are applied to the first group.. Anyway consider that the ingestion of mao inhibitors are not a joke. Very interesting in this field are the worls of J. Calloway about the biochemical paths of this neurotrasmiters in the human body.
Nacho

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Hi Nacho,

Is it J.C. Callaway that you refer? I found some articles of this name in Journal of Neurophysiology. Do you have links to his other works?

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

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Yes he is. I met him in 1994 in a mundial congress of entheogenic plants and chamanism with other people  like Ott, Shulgin, etc.. I remember him as a very friendly person..he was working for a finish university that year i think... Unfortunately i dont have any electronic document about him..but i think i have in some place the congress acts..i think i remember that his presentation was about the transmethylization(or something similar) of the mao inside the human body.....i will look for that papers at home when i have time..very interesting stuff..and believe me i remember the conversations between shulgin and Callaway between the cogress sessions and..wow i was 24 that time and was a very big time for me to be there.

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By the way..i was in your city lot of years ago..Istambul...seeing with my own eyes the piri reis map...what a wonderful place smile

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Re: Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor

St Johns wort is a very mild MAOI compared to what you need for full blown aya trips, where things like syrian rue are needed and do cause very strong effects on their own and thats without the DMT.
I dont think SJW is strong enough as an MAOI to allow DMT much half life  in the brain unless one took massive doses.

SJW at safe low recommended doses should not really be a problem with  tryamine containing foods.
Even grapefriut juice is a mild MAOI too
Of course anyone taking potent MAOI like syrian rue do need to avoid Tryamine containing foods.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/maois/maois.shtml

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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absolutely right barefoot, hyperic contains very low levels of betacarbolines,like passiflora and licorice that are mild mao inhibitors too i think... To obtain the desired effect you should eat about 3 grames of peganum harmala seeds that afortunately grow wild some kilometers close to my home;)... Peganum harmala seeds are about ten times more potent by weigh that the original plant that sudamerican people use for achieve the effect..i mean the original ayahuasca recipe

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Barefoot Doc

Nacho

Feritciva

Thanks for the valuable input.

In a sense, this thread was sparked as a General Awareness Catalyst and is applicable to many NR Topics:

About Change.

So although the various herbs most certainly apply, the sense of it from this zone is that:

With OUR Growing Awareness, there could well be

Techniques Of Imagination And Focus,

Like Working Toward Inner Silence,

And Some of Deeper Methods Beginning To Emerge From Within.
_____     _____     _____     _____     _____


There is a Laz Technique:

In meditation, Imagine, in the center of YOUR head, something about the size of a grape

It’s dull and lusterless

So YOU start rubbing and gently stretching it in various directions

It starts to become Shiny

And at some point, releases a Drip Of Dew.......

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Hi siriarc. your laz technique reminds me a technique about clicking the amigdala...i think i have read it in a website sometime ago...Anyway you are right, the use of chemical substances is dangerous and in some sense as druid will said in some way ahrimanic...

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SiriArc wrote:

There is a Laz Technique:

In meditation, Imagine, in the center of YOUR head, something about the size of a grape

It’s dull and lusterless

So YOU start rubbing and gently stretching it in various directions

It starts to become Shiny

And at some point, releases a Drip Of Dew.......

...and this technique also reminded me of Aladdin's Magic Lamp. Probably the "sleeping jinn" inside the lamp/brain will get out of it's cell (take it in in both means, a prison cell or body cell) and ask: "what do you wish master?".


Although SJW is not powerful to obtain an ayatrip, it may help if it's taken for long time. As it is safe (if you don't use chemical drugs), I'll take it anyway cool

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

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Nacho,

The Amygdala [An almond-shaped neural structure in the anterior part of the temporal lobe of the cerebrum; intimately connected with the hypothalamus and the hippocampus and the cingulate gyrus; as part of the limbic system it plays an important role in motivation and emotional behaviors] Technique is a solid reference and has been used in this zone, periodically, for some time.

As clarity:

Nacho wrote:

Anyway you are right, the use of chemical substances is dangerous.......

The noted verbiage didn’t come from this zone.

This did:

So although the various herbs most certainly apply.......

‘danger’ Is Relative - As Mapmakers, WE Do What We Do

Using The Tools Of Common Sense

And Heartfelt Intuition.

*******   ***   *


Feritciva,

.......this technique also reminded me of Aladdin's Magic Lamp. Probably the ‘sleeping jinn’ inside the lamp/brain will get out of it's cell (take it in in both means, a prison cell or body cell) and ask: ‘what do you wish master?’

Good One !!! cool

SJW Has Been Added To This Shopping List.......

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15 (edited by SiriArc 2007-07-06 21:51:29)

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Aspect Of YOUR Designed Potential:



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Current (but not for long) Manipulated Experience:



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