Re: The Cassiopaean Cult?

lyra wrote:

I will reiterate what I already said:    "And considering that the sessions are spontaneous and there are no pre-planned questions, and others in the room are free to chime in with questions and comnments on the spot also means there's no way the answers are pre-arranged."
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  So why memorized questions is even still an issue is beyond me.


Lyra,

Sorry, I didn't catch that for some reason.  My fault.  Please don't bite, you're one of my favorite posters here! smile

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morningsun76 wrote:

Lyra,

Sorry, I didn't catch that for some reason.  My fault.  Please don't bite, you're one of my favorite posters here! smile

Thanks.....don't mean to bite either.  big_smile   Like I said, if I sound snippy, sorry, it's just I have a tendancy to get a little edgy if I know something is a certain way and it's being challenged or looked at skeptically.   It's more frustration than anything else I guess.   But anyway, no biting!  smile   You're one of my new favorite posters too!

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montalk wrote:

Yes, there's lots of disinformation out there, lots of truth sandwiched between lies. But the lies can be thrown away and truth kept. It takes practice, but it can be done. It's not enough to be suspicious, there must also be reason for suspicion and perhaps examples of why something is false, inconsistent, contradictory, or manipulative. I'm just wondering, by what criteria are you basing your dismissal of the Cass information, and what qualities would you consider sufficient to call something "great channeling" or "great information"?

There isn't an objective standard of what makes "great channeling" or "great information". If you like something, then it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks about it. I myself am wary of channeled information, perhaps even to the point where it clouds my ability to critically analyze the material itself. But, that's just my issue. I did read a part of the C material at some point where the C's apparently told LKJ that they, the C's, were LKJ in the future. Did I read that correctly?

And I must apologize: I didn't realize that this thread would become such a talking point, and one of such differing opinions and points of view. I was only interested in knowing more about the cultish aspect.

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Does Laura look at the board while the session is in progress?  Because I really don't think it is that hard to spell things quickly.  Has she ever done it blindfolded?

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thoth wrote:

There isn't an objective standard of what makes "great channeling" or "great information".  If you like something, then it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks about it. I myself am wary of channeled information, perhaps even to the point where it clouds my ability to critically analyze the material itself. But, that's just my issue.



I know this statement was directed at Montalk, but it reminded me of something I forgot to mention in my previous post:  (and this is directed for anybody in general, not Thoth)

For those who are immediately skeptical of channelled material "because it's channelled material", (hinting that it automatically makes it questionable, flaky, unreliable, etc. etc.)  then chew on this:    You believe and take on face value MANY other things in your reality because you've been conditioned to.   Information in your school textbooks, the scientific explanation for how reality is set up, the description for what outer space is and how that's set up, and a million other things that are all around you.   We're given explanations every day for everything we see and experience.......and we generally accept those explanations, even parroting them to others.  I do it.   Everybody here at NR does it to an extent, whenever we "explain" something in a thread or to other posters.   But why are those ideas / explanations any more reliable and solid than ones offered by channelling??   What, because they were offered up by parents, textbooks, school, friends, the MCS, world leaders and politicians, etc.?    Think about that.   Why is channelled material ANY less questionable than the crap we're fed by the MCS since birth?? 

In the end, use critical analysis, personal experience and observation, and intuition to discern what's what.....and that goes for both channelled material AND mainstream explanations for ordinary things given to us by MCS.    But don't just automatically dismiss something "because it's channelled", having a preconceived idea, with the mind already made up.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I'm not sure whether you're referring to the Cassiopaean Transcripts, or the articles published at Cassiopaea.org.  Okay, so some of the articles there are lengthy and dense which can cause for headaches, but physiological reactions aren't really criteria to judge material on. Better criteria would be: usefulness, accuracy, intuitive confirmation, clarity, and correlation with personal experience. Of course, that takes both comprehension of the material and dissection, for which some people don't have time/willpower/energy. For those people, they're entitled to their opinion but I wouldn't take their opinion too seriously."

The articles and the transcripts both sound like somebody just making up interesting answers to me.  I do not find them useful in my further understanding of the truth of the world.  They drone on and on about what Laura finds interesting half the time, and that is fine, but she is one the claiming that she is in contact with 6th density aliens.  Will power to read them?  Well I don't have much will power,  but that is not the reason I don't read them.  I read at least 5 or 6, and I find them to be rubbish, I guess it just seems so intuitively obvious to me that they are a distraction- a very long, time consuming distraction.

To each his own.

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AZ1 wrote:

but she is one the claiming that she is in contact with 6th density aliens.

The C's aren't aliens.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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I've never been involved with the Cassiopaean group. I was aware of their website, but I'd always heard warnings to stay away from channeling and Oujia boards. It was only recently--through Montalk.net--that I decided to take an unprejudiced look at what they were saying. The information about Organic Portals has hit me like a ton of bricks. I think and feel that it is correct. Accepting this information has not caused me to become curious about the personalities of the channelers, to want to seek out and join the group, to want to send them money, or to start using a Oujia board for the purposes of contacting the Cassiopaeans myself. It has caused me to want to study Mouravieff's Gnosis books, and to get back onto the spiritual path I was on years ago before I became discouraged. Like everything, you have to use your own discernment. Gurdjieff said the following:

Gurdjieff wrote:

Usually the man himself is not worth a brass farthing but he must have a teacher no other than Jesus Christ. To less he will not agree. And it never enters his head that even if he were to meet such a teacher as Jesus Christ, taking him as he is described in the Gospels, he would never be able to follow him because it would be necessary to be on the level of an apostle in order to be a pupil of Jesus Christ. Here is a definite law. The higher the teacher, the more difficult for the pupil.

There may be inadequacies in the information coming from the Cassiopaeans, but overall it corresponds to my current level and is therefore useful to me. Your mileage may vary.

--Justin

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lyra wrote:

Why is channelled material ANY less questionable than the crap we're fed by the MCS since birth??

The problem I have with it is that there is so much channeled information, and a great deal of it is very contradictory. So, one would have to be relegated to sifting through it all with a fine tooth comb, measuring each part of it against your own better judgment to try and discern the truth of it. I guess I just view that as a waste of energy, and quite redundant. My issue :-)

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lyra wrote:

The C's aren't aliens.

But they would, by definition, be non-human.

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czyx wrote:

The information about Organic Portals has hit me like a ton of bricks. I think and feel that it is correct.

Would some kind soul here please summarize for me what exactly an Organic Portal is? Thanks.

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thoth wrote:
lyra wrote:

The C's aren't aliens.

But they would, by definition, be non-human.


Right......and......?    The word "alien", while oftentimes referring to something foreign, usually, within the context of channelled material refers to beings from another planet.   Which is what I'm inferring by AZ1's use of "alien", and which is what I'm correcting, because they're not beings from another planet.   They're not even physical, according to them.  They're *supposed* to be us, in the future;  now, whether that's true, I don't know, and I can't argue it, but they have definitely NEVER claimed to be aliens.   This is a common misperception  by many people who haven't taken the time to actually really read the material and who just skim it then spout opinions.   They see the word "cassiopaea" and assume, Oh, they're beings from the Cassiopaea region of outer space.    X!

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thoth wrote:
czyx wrote:

The information about Organic Portals has hit me like a ton of bricks. I think and feel that it is correct.

Would some kind soul here please summarize for me what exactly an Organic Portal is? Thanks.


There are articles right here on the Montalk website.   Both by Montalk, and I believe links to other material written by Laura Jadczyk.   They should contain all that you wish to know on the subject.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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lyra wrote:

Right......and......?

And nothing. I was done :-)

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lyra wrote:

There are articles right here on the Montalk website.   Both by Montalk, and I believe links to other material written by Laura Jadczyk.   They should contain all that you wish to know on the subject.

Thanks. Found it after a little searching around. Very interesting, but I don't buy the concept at all. It seems to me to be almost a spiritualized version of racial superiority. The idea that plant and animal group souls incarnate into human bodies in order to keep us in line with the Matrix Control System is way off base, IMO.