Re: The subject of reincarnation

I think there are only three reasons a person reincarnates quickly.  This just comes from the area of study I've received regarding reincarnation.  The first is, you have attained the level where you don't ever need to reincarnate, but you have decided to in order to help humanity.  Second is that you have lived many lives in succession never seeking any spiritual aspirations, or have in one lifetime, committed consciously a very great evil.  The third is that you did not live past childhood, or had some congenital phsyiological defect affecting your ability to perceive properly. 

Lyra said that when she was young she spoke of memories from the perspective of a little boy, and had an aversion to England.  That little boy maybe died young in one of the world wars?  I've seen a documentory on this also.  It was about young children remembering past lives.  One example was when a young girl was watching the tv and local news was on.  She was able to identify a person on the tv and even name others related to that person.  What she said was verified.  Apparently, when you are still very young, you may have memories from your last incarnation.  But the average span of time between lives has been said to be about 1,000 to 1,500 years.  These are conditions of a spiritual bliss, these periods between lives. 

There may be other impulses for returning early than what I listed above.

Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement.
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17 (edited by lyra 2007-08-07 22:51:24)

Re: The subject of reincarnation

Antaeus wrote:

Lyra said that when she was young she spoke of memories from the perspective of a little boy, and had an aversion to England.

(for anybody who's confused, antaeus is referring to this thread:  http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5344 )  They weren't the same lifetime.  The perspective of the little boy was from my last life, and it wasn't in England.  (I do know what it was though.)   I don't have actual definitive proof for an incarnation in England but signs point to it.  If I was there then I don't think it was in the 20th century.


Antaeus wrote:

I think there are only three reasons a person reincarnates quickly.  This just comes from the area of study I've received regarding reincarnation.  The first is, you have attained the level where you don't ever need to reincarnate, but you have decided to in order to help humanity.  Second is that you have lived many lives in succession never seeking any spiritual aspirations, or have in one lifetime, committed consciously a very great evil.  The third is that you did not live past childhood, or had some congenital phsyiological defect affecting your ability to perceive properly.

I don't know about any of those theories, they don't make sense to me.  But the biggest one you left out is: suicide.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: The subject of reincarnation

lyra wrote:

Well if you're interested there was a REALLY good thread going about all of this recently in case you missed it:
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5344

Thanks, Lyra, I'll continue on that thread, I think.

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but you can avoid its teeth.

Re: The subject of reincarnation

Hi Moralman and all,



Moralman wrote:

1. Do you remember any of your past lives?

In a roundabout way, yes.   For starters, as a baby, I had adult level thoughts, and basically didn't have the mindset of a baby.  Possibly as a result of incarnating very soon after my last life.   When I was about 3 or 4, according to my parents I used to tell them stuff like "When I was a little boy...." followed by some story about what I used to do when I was a little boy.   Like I was making comparisons to then versus my current childhood.   I don't remember any incidents of doing this, but both my parents have told me I did it.

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Where did I misquote?  I didn't think I'd be upsetting anyone with something that was already there to see.

Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement.
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You have to believe in the impossible in order to become.

Re: The subject of reincarnation

Always had a super strong dislike and aversion to England....absolutely hated it as a kid, despite the fact I could do a superb British accent with no problem
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This was right there in post #5.  I guess the real antagonism was concerning my view on reincarnation.  Where do suicides go?  Why would you want more opinion from me, in view of how you reacted to the first one?  So I will accept it as a rhetorical question.  I certainly did not intend to cause you any distress.  But I do make my share of mistakes.

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21 (edited by lyra 2007-08-08 15:45:18)

Re: The subject of reincarnation

Antaeus wrote:

Always had a super strong dislike and aversion to England....absolutely hated it as a kid, despite the fact I could do a superb British accent with no problem
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This was right there in post #5.

Okay.  What you had said was this:

Antaeus wrote:

That little boy maybe died young in one of the world wars?

....which sounded to me like you were combining the anti-England thing with the little boy thing, thinking they were all the same life, a life where they died young in one of the world wars, when in fact they were separate.  So I clarified.   

So yes, the above comment from me you quoted does in fact talk about a possible life in England....but you will notice that nowhere in that quote does it mention being a little boy in England.  You combined the two ideas into one.

Even more confusing, my quotes that you were referencing weren't even from this thread.  They were quotes from another thread, and there was no clarifiers in your post to explain that to the rest of the people reading this. 


Antaeus wrote:

Why would you want more opinion from me, in view of how you reacted to the first one?  So I will accept it as a rhetorical question.  I certainly did not intend to cause you any distress.

Not sure what you're talking about here at all, in terms of me being "distressed" and me supposedly wanting more opinion from you.  Not only did I not request more opinion from you nor hint at seeking further opinion from you, there was nothing anywhere in my last post that was even remotely distressed.   All I did was say that I don't know about the theories you were talking about, and offered up one that you left out:  suicide.

I wish people wouldn't quote me or mention me in their posts if it's based on a misunderstanding/misinterpetation/not reading things correctly.   Would be better off not mentioning me at all if they're not going to get things correct and force me to have to come on here and clarify and re-explain things, which is an annoyance and energy drain.   

(Also an FYI - you'll notice that under MoralMan's name it says "Guest."  That means he was barred from posting here at NR, so he won't be able to respond to your comments.....) 

Now, I'd like to end this confusing muddled exchange at this point, since it's not productive in the least.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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22 (edited by Antaeus 2007-08-08 16:13:00)

Re: The subject of reincarnation

What if, while still very young, living in Germany, a person was killed by English warplanes.  It is only worth noting as conjecture; that same person, living this life now, might have an aversion to England. 

Don't worry about me anymore, once bitten twice shy...

Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement.
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Re: The subject of reincarnation

I suggest reading this book : A Western Approach to Reincarnation and Karma", selected lectures by Rudolf Steiner, introduction by Rene Querido.

or theses articles:
Introduction to reincarnation and karma, according to anthroposophy (not written by Steiner)
www.bibleandanthroposophy.com/Smith/main/burning_bush/chapters/Karma%20&%20Reincarnation/karma&reincarnation1.htm

RUDOLF STEINER
Life Between Death & Rebirth
http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/LifeBe … index.html

Between Death & Rebirth
http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/BetDea … index.html

The Inner Nature of Man & Life Between Death and Rebirth
http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/InnMan … index.html

The Karma of Unthruthfulness (about evil)
http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/KarmUn … index.html

Karmic Relationships: Esoteric Studies - Volume I
http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/KarmRe … index.html

Manifestations of Karma (that's a hard one. not an introduction)
http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/ManfKa … index.html

Morality and Karma (short)
http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/MorKar_index.html