• From: Isle of Lucy
  • Registered: 2005-11-07

Re: Birth of Jesus - Sept. 11, 3 B.C.

Actually, mind control is been in full effect since before WWII. It's just bullshit like claiming Tavistock creating the word "Teenager" (which I proved was a lie) really takes the piss out of what you're trying to present, which probably 90% is probably true.

As for the "blind faith" re: Desteni, I suppose you won't accept that have I've personally interacted with the portal and proved its veracity for myself. But hey, to each his own.

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  • Registered: 2007-01-20

Re: Birth of Jesus - Sept. 11, 3 B.C.

I didn't read the last 3 pages, but Phi was getting a lot of flak for suggesting the veracity of Jesus' teachings.  I also grew up in a Christian household until I graduated high school.  After a small awakening about how I had been tricked into this dismal illusion, I have to admit that I am no longer a Christian.  Yet, I still have my Bible and turn to it for guidance a few times a year. (I've got the enjoyable Gnostic gospels as well wink

Though it has certainly been created, maliciously used, and the truth "smudged" , the fact remains that the authors could not totally smudge the truth, because their mythology must still obey the rule of the Universe.  Almost every mythology system is at its very core, the same, presented in different ways.  That's the way I understand it anyways. (who knows?)  I subscribe to the idea that Jesus himself is fiction, but he was based on a small group of influential and enlightened individuals (who had to be covered in almost unintelligible mystery by the elite)

But overall, Jesus is a cool cat - and if someone probes the depths of his words with a yearning for the truth of his words, one will certainly find something.  smile

It is extremely interesting that he could have been born on September 11th... It fills in a lot of the mythology for me anyways.  Herod (links with terror for me) attempting to kill the prophet of great news... the one time Jesus becomes angry is with the money-changers in the Temple (the capital system enslaving humanity has to end some time)  Reality's inner construction is seriously mind-blowing to behold.  Good thing the good guys win in the end smile  I am extremely grateful (as I'm sure you all are) that we are here to experience the shift.

Upward and onward...

93 Reply by Hermit Brad (edited by Hermit Brad 2007-09-24 06:37:32)

  • Registered: 2006-09-28

Re: Birth of Jesus - Sept. 11, 3 B.C.

I agree, Millsley. 'Christians' are so focused on Jesus' physicality that they neglect the Word. They are brought up basing the validity of everything on literal truth and that is unfortunate.

Ptolemy's Letter to Flora sheds light on this subject: http://www.gnosis.org/library/flora.htm

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  • From: Still Looking 0-0
  • Registered: 2007-09-14

Re: Birth of Jesus - Sept. 11, 3 B.C.

A very interesting read for those who have not yet seen it on David Ickes site:


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10354

Millsley wrote:

But overall, Jesus is a cool cat - and if someone probes the depths of his words with a yearning for the truth of his words, one will certainly find something.

The reason there are so many "cool" things in the bible that ring true about love and looking inside and being a good person and good to others etc etc,  is because they are telling us stuff we already know, inherently built into us, appealing to our good nature, our good selves already here, get it?
It's like a poison pill coated with chocolate.

  • From: Still Looking 0-0
  • Registered: 2007-09-14

Re: Birth of Jesus - Sept. 11, 3 B.C.

Taken from Godlike productions so excuse the spelling and grammer, not mine but another interesting point of view:

Admitedly , there werent no TV in the old days.
So how do you create a mass mind manipulation tool, that strikes at the very heart of your subconsciuos, and makes you a sheep?

So they created Jesus Christ. The ancient version of todays mind control tool, the television.

Listen closely:
Your mind is more powerful than ten thousand nuclear weapons. Such a mind power, if left to its own creative devices , doesn't do good to the evil powers that rule us today. So they needed to switch off your mind.
This they did by creating separtions of humanity in the form of religions. You are hindu, you are christain, etc.

Here then is the key to understanding Why Jesus Christ was created:

Listen again,and listen close, for I shall not repeat this:

You have been told:>
Jesus Christ saves.
HE SHALL Save you from evil.
He shall show you the way.

What this basically does, is make YOU and YOUR own SPIRITUALITY IMPOTTENT!!

Effectively, it means , YOU do not have ANY spirituality!
YOU do not have ANY Spiritual powers!
YOU ARE IMPOTENT, SPIRITUALLY, FOR ONLY JESUS KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT!!

So you wait, and wait, while your mind is switched off.

While they move into your life.

Today, Jesus is replaced by the Television.

Its mind control all the way.

My advice:
Increase and strengthen YOUR OWN Spirituality!
This way you can harness the spiritual forces to save you and your brothers and sisters!

  • Registered: 2006-09-28

Re: Birth of Jesus - Sept. 11, 3 B.C.

I feel embarrassed for whoever wrote that, Khalil. They're obviously ignorant of the esoteric message of Christianity (Gnosticism, etc) and are by their own logic, mind-controlled by believing exclusively in the literal interpretation of the WORD.

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Re: Birth of Jesus - Sept. 11, 3 B.C.

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  • From: Still Looking 0-0
  • Registered: 2007-09-14

Re: Birth of Jesus - Sept. 11, 3 B.C.

Strikes me it's possible the parts of the tale that were too far out were left out.
They had to make the entire thing believable.
It's like when your enjoying a movie but the last 10 minutes ruined it because they went over the top, stretched it a bit, became whimsical, farcical.
The result of leaving those last 10 minutes out and editing in a more feasible ending to go along with the rest of the film would be wiser.
That is assuming the entire material is a work of fiction.

  • From: istanbul
  • Registered: 2004-05-13

Re: Birth of Jesus - Sept. 11, 3 B.C.

Well Khalil, on the contrary of HB's view I felt proud for whoever wrote the passage you've sent. smile

But I've had problems with this Jesus character from the time I knew myself as I wrote in another thread some time ago. This means I have no hope for salvation!

"Spiritual impotence" is a great term by the way. Let me work on mechanisms of biological impotence some more and apply it to our etheric / astral body. Hmm, excellent idea!

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  • Registered: 2005-07-09

Re: Birth of Jesus - Sept. 11, 3 B.C.

Khalil wrote:

So how do you create a mass mind manipulation tool, that strikes at the very heart of your subconsciuos, and makes you a sheep?

So they created Jesus Christ. The ancient version of todays mind control tool, the television.

And just how did they manage to brainwash people into believing in this Jesus with no TV, Radio or Newspapers. We like to think we are too smart today to fall for such tales but the truth is we are way less smart having been brainwashed by .... TV, Radio and Newspapers.

  • From: Still Looking 0-0
  • Registered: 2007-09-14

Re: Birth of Jesus - Sept. 11, 3 B.C.

Jezreel wrote:
Khalil wrote:

So how do you create a mass mind manipulation tool, that strikes at the very heart of your subconsciuos, and makes you a sheep?

So they created Jesus Christ. The ancient version of todays mind control tool, the television.

And just how did they manage to brainwash people into believing in this Jesus with no TV, Radio or Newspapers. We like to think we are too smart today to fall for such tales but the truth is we are way less smart having been brainwashed by .... TV, Radio and Newspapers.

I'll let you think about that one a while.

Yeah