256 Reply by kid mongo (edited by kid mongo 2007-11-24 13:05:40)

  • From: Isle of Lucy
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Re: The Dead Series.

Hello, Persophonevii! Is a human being's life worth a few "enlightened" thoughts? The mind system is indeed limited, because it needs a power source to stay "alive." And that power source happens to be a human's own pure life essence. What a price to pay when you consider we don't really need the mind to survive (lol, it needs US). Hey, we only believe that we need to mind to function because that's what everybody assumes is true. But what if the whole world was found out to be a LIE? Because it has been proven to not to be the case we need the mind to function. Obviously, me just telling you this means nothing, but I say prove it to yourself, as I am proving this to myself in this moment. It is a process that will take about seven years to complete, but it has been done. There are tools.

What happens is that we broadcast our thoughts, feelings, emotions, concepts, etc., into the world in every moment, and these mind systems influence everything! To be free of the Matrix, this false, illusory world, you must drop the only thing that really controls you; the mind. The unified consciousness field (better known as the collective unconscious) connects every human at the unconscious mind system level. You can see that our world is the culmination of the collective projections from our minds. I ask you with this realization: is this acceptable? Collapse of the Ecosystem, war, poverty, you name it. The world that we exist in is the reflection of the true nature of the mind of Humanity.

This is called "paranoia and fear" by those who won't accept their responsibility. They would rather hear poetic, beautiful words that justifies keeping the status quo in place. They would say that standing up for oneness and equality is a cynical STO disinformation scam. Check.

Here is the upshot: without the mind system, you cannot be controlled, moved, influenced by your thoughts, feelings and emotions. Or anyone's mind systems outside of you.

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

kid mongo's Website

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Re: The Dead Series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtOI2gjh7C4 The SOLUTION of Changing the Past as Guiltlessness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1TWCArCoX0 The SOLUTION as SELF TRUST as SELF HONESTY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VFzlBUwewY  The SOLUTION as ACTION as SELF MOVEMENT

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

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258 Reply by titmouse_ (edited by titmouse_ 2007-11-24 22:59:46)

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  • Registered: 2006-05-25

Re: The Dead Series.

kid mongo wrote:

Hello, Persophonevii! Is a human being's life worth a few "enlightened" thoughts? The mind system is indeed limited, because it needs a power source to stay "alive." And that power source happens to be a human's own pure life essence. What a price to pay when you consider we don't really need the mind to survive (lol, it needs US). Hey, we only believe that we need to mind to function because that's what everybody assumes is true. But what if the whole world was found out to be a LIE? Because it has been proven to not to be the case we need the mind to function. Obviously, me just telling you this means nothing, but I say prove it to yourself, as I am proving this to myself in this moment. It is a process that will take about seven years to complete, but it has been done. There are tools.

What happens is that we broadcast our thoughts, feelings, emotions, concepts, etc., into the world in every moment, and these mind systems influence everything! To be free of the Matrix, this false, illusory world, you must drop the only thing that really controls you; the mind. The unified consciousness field (better known as the collective unconscious) connects every human at the unconscious mind system level. You can see that our world is the culmination of the collective projections from our minds. I ask you with this realization: is this acceptable? Collapse of the Ecosystem, war, poverty, you name it. The world that we exist in is the reflection of the true nature of the mind of Humanity.

This is called "paranoia and fear" by those who won't accept their responsibility. They would rather hear poetic, beautiful words that justifies keeping the status quo in place. They would say that standing up for oneness and equality is a cynical STO disinformation scam. Check.

Here is the upshot: without the mind system, you cannot be controlled, moved, influenced by your thoughts, feelings and emotions. Or anyone's mind systems outside of you.

I believe without the mind system you would be a vegetable and surely not able to function. A balanced relationship between the unconscious and the ego-consciousness might aid people to transcend fear and insecurity. BTW, the Matrix may be the collective unconscious, therefore conscious efforts do little to free one from it. Freedom may be an escape from "the lie".  I sense a lie beneath the surface of the Desteni universe, therefore not a very solid foundation for truth. Just my unconscious feelings floating to the surface, don't take what I think personally.  I could be totally wrong and dead, but don't know it. wink



"I see dead people"
"They don't know they are dead"
"They see what they want to see"
~~The Sixth Sense Movie

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To know love is to know trust; to know oneself is to know truth
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  • From: Isle of Lucy
  • Registered: 2005-11-07

Re: The Dead Series.

Oh, I sense a "lie" all right. The Lie that has been brought forth that we are our minds, emotions and feelings. We are not free, as long as we justify the pathologies of the mind.

The mind is a mechanical projection of polarities, and we can plainly see the effects of these projections. The "true" "veil." The mind is cruel, brutal, and pathological.  Wars, eco-collapse, brutalization of children and women,  immense poverty and immense riches, and so on. We've been duped. There's no "evil" in this world. There is only the pathology of the human mind, which can be and has been transcended.

Are you equal to what is being played out before your eyes? Do you accept the world as it is, with a few enjoying wealth while the vast majority is starving to death? Can you really justify theses crimes against Humanity and Nature by saying that the mind is a "beautiful thing?" When I hear about "lies" and assumptions made in the face of what's being presented, then I am free to make an assumption, myself; that these do not want to stand up for oneness and equality because of the price that must be paid with realization that knowledge without action is useless, and that the mind must be stopped, so that life can be birthed in the physical.

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

kid mongo's Website

260 Reply by titmouse_ (edited by titmouse_ 2007-11-25 07:01:11)

  • From: Shores of Lake Titikaka
  • Registered: 2006-05-25

Re: The Dead Series.

kid mongo wrote:

Oh, I sense a "lie" all right. The Lie that has been brought forth that we are our minds, emotions and feelings. We are not free, as long as we justify the pathologies of the mind.

The mind is a mechanical projection of polarities, and we can plainly see the effects of these projections. The "true" "veil." The mind is cruel, brutal, and pathological.  Wars, eco-collapse, brutalization of children and women,  immense poverty and immense riches, and so on. We've been duped. There's no "evil" in this world. There is only the pathology of the human mind, which can be and has been transcended.

Now this may be true, I can feel it......then comes the lie in the second paragraph.

We wound ourselves; we punish ourselves. No external powers force the individual to over-populate the world,  then criminally starve them to poor health and early death. The individual IS the revolution!

Fun fact: Great Tits are common in Europe

To know love is to know trust; to know oneself is to know truth
~~carefulcarpenter

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Re: The Dead Series.

Oh, yes they did.  Power has always been held by those whom Anu favored, and all rulers have been reincarnated over and over again in stations of power. Now, this is no longer the case since the White Light and it's Angels and Masters have been deleted, yet what remains is the technological mind system which can only perceive polarities and enslavement. If the mind could see what we really are, then we would be living in oneness and equality instead of separation and division. We know the fruit of this tree.

We indeed do punish ourselves, as you say. But where does the source of this punishment begin? It begins inside each Human Being with the  placement of the mind which is limited, and dies when the holographic construct of the body dies. Yet the true expression of Humanity lives infinitely. It frees itself from the preprogramming that suppressed its nature. The dimensional beings tell us it is possible to free oneself from the mind's pathology while on Earth.

Titmouse, how do explain the crazy shit that has been allowed to take place on this planet? Do you believe in some outside agency that has everything in control, and are just using this planet as an experiment or what? What's your cosmology? I am interested to know.

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

kid mongo's Website

  • From: Shores of Lake Titikaka
  • Registered: 2006-05-25

Re: The Dead Series.

Any time one is looking to external forces for the root of evil, one, or the collective, is/are in self-deception.


"Going out is going in"
~~john muir

Fun fact: Great Tits are common in Europe

To know love is to know trust; to know oneself is to know truth
~~carefulcarpenter

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  • From: Isle of Lucy
  • Registered: 2005-11-07

Re: The Dead Series.

You are most correct. You gotta get in to get out.

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

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264 Reply by titmouse_ (edited by titmouse_ 2007-11-25 23:26:25)

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  • Registered: 2006-05-25

Re: The Dead Series.

From what source has the world experienced such craziness and despair?  I would look to "fear" and "ignorance" as indications of cause and effect. Acausal effects are subjectively meaningful, usually accompanied by awareness, numinosity, and curiosity-- a sort of counter-balancing influence.

As we share our knowledge, no matter from where our perspectives originate, we are doing divine work to diminish ignorance and fear.  As Lyra said, "Planting seeds" is about all one can effectively do.  I appreciate finding out that we share far more in common than the differences which seem to be raised in the initial focus.  I recently read that men and women agree on about 97% of their perceptions of the world--it is the 3% that creates conflict. Debating with an open mind is eventually a healing activity--again, we must first get beyond the 3% to get to common ground. Think of the wars and interpersonal battles that have been fought over such a small difference in opinion.

Fun fact: Great Tits are common in Europe

To know love is to know trust; to know oneself is to know truth
~~carefulcarpenter

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Re: The Dead Series.

If you take another step back, you'd see that Fear is generated by the mind. And really, what does "Divinty" really mean? Who is living a "divine" life? Do we live the statements that our words portray in every moment in self - honesty? Or do our actions reflect what we believe we are?  As infinite sound harmonics, we are in every moment "living words," statements of who we are and what we will allow and accept. And here, maybe we approach that 3% you spoke about.

IMO, the lie that has been brought forth is that we are "spiritual beings in a material world." We are actually infinite sound harmonics lost in a holographic construct which is also sound in a concentrated form.

All polarities are projections of separation generated by the mind system. There really isn't such a thing as "good / evil." More correctly, it's all about what we allow or don't allow.

When we think of wars, what is war but two minds in projected opposition? This is why oneness and equality has been impossible to achieve. The mind feeds of human's pure life essence and also gains power from the friction generated by the grinding of polarities. What I like most about the Destenian messages (which I'm sure folks like Gibbon would violentyly disagree), is that it simple to understand. On the ccommon sense level, it's very persuasive.

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

kid mongo's Website

  • From: Shores of Lake Titikaka
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Re: The Dead Series.

Peace be with you , my friend, and keep expressing your truth....and attempt to transcend the violent erruptions of unconscious content ladden in the 3%.  Best of all, be all you are in love and curiosity.  smile

Fun fact: Great Tits are common in Europe

To know love is to know trust; to know oneself is to know truth
~~carefulcarpenter

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Re: The Dead Series.

Thanks. In oneness and equality we will return.

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

kid mongo's Website

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  • Registered: 2005-11-07

Re: The Dead Series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi1UNVivWEg The DESIGN of ARROGANCE as Ego Personified

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWmpXUVfMDw The DESIGN of The EXCUSE -- I am only HUMAN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc2m9lTnJ_o The SOLUTION when Realizing that FEAR SUCKS

There will be two Ages. The first: The Age of Power. The next: The Age of Equality.

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Re: The Dead Series.

A few questions arise when reading some posts made by a few on this particular topic:

Why are some so reluctant to actually use common sense?
Why do some fear common sense so much that they will go to ANY lengths to suppress it?
What are you afraid of losing if you apply common sense?

Are you content with the way the world looks?
Are you content living in this world?

The answer to this, considering the state of our reality would be a resounding NO?!
So, what do we then do to stop it?
How do we stop it?
What is causing it in the first place?

If you actually do allow yourself to look at all this with common sense - then we are a huge step along the way.
Because in that you will really start looking at things, and actually start seeing what is actually really going on in this world and also realize that it is going down hill very rapidly.
So rapidly in fact that we'd better get our arses in serious gear.

So - when common sense is applied, you see that to stop anything in this world you have to start with you.
There is no other way, all other ways have been extensively tried and tested and look where it got us?
Even deeper in the shit.

Can this be because we have separated ourselves to such an extent from everything that we are utterly lost?
So entrapped by the mind con sciousness system that we behave and act like sheep. Just following the flow, the leader, not seeing anything or noticing anything, just trotting along - stupidity personified.

So - when applying common sense and allowing ourselves to see and hear we actually allow ourselves to start waking up.
The tools to be able to achieve this is presented within Desteni.
All you have to do is use the tools.
Tell me, what have you got to lose in losing your mind? You are lost already within mind.
Mind con sciousness systems is what landed us in this out of hand reality. So you'd better start waking up.
Birth yourself - who you truly are.
Because who you really are, would not allow any of what is occurring in this world.

We do not know what it is to live - in the true meaning of the word.
We do not know who we are - as equal as one
We cannot even grasp the concept yet.

What we can grasp however , is that things are really really bad. And that the solutions is right in front of your eyes.
Will you allow yourself to see - or are you willing to allow yourself never ending loops of this hell like existence that we call life???

Why should I , as one and equal to you allow and accept you to not wake up and see?
Why should I, as one and equal to you not tell you to stand up and take responsibility for all this that we have created as I am doing in applying myself and dedicate myself to wake up?
There is no excuse! There is no hiding place. It is time to wake up and STOP all the insanity that our so called reality consist of.

Will you allow yourself to apply common sense?
Will you allow yourself to at least go through the information provided, and transcend your mind?
Or are you continuing trotting along, until something or someone picks you up and literally shakes you awake?

Are you allowing yourself to be less than your mind?
Are you too scared to face yourself and what you have allowed?
Too much of a chicken shit to dare to face yourself?
Will you try to hide behind excuses and put the blame outside of you, support separation even further?
Are you going to suppress all of this just like you have suppressed everything else about you and your life?
Are you allowing fear to control you? Already being so consumed by fear that you do not even realize yet that fear is actually what rules and runs your life by your allowance.

I will keep chipping away at you, be there like this annoying pain in the arse until you hear and see.
I will never stop, I will nag you forever  - until you stand up and take direction of you.
Because I am starting to see now, realize that no more am I willing to support and allow this world to continue the way it is now.
And as equal and one - I will not accept or allow anything less from any other being.

Just look at the world around you, look at all the abuse, war, famine, rape, abduction, killing, all the horrors manifested around you.
Just do a full STOP! For every day you just sit in your little bubble, even more children are abused, raped, killed, die of starvation - if that alone is not motivation to get you going - then I do not know what would be......do you?

270 Reply by Spi (edited by Spi 2007-11-26 14:31:40)

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Re: The Dead Series.

Hello kid mango, I was reading the C's and found this, I'm wondering if you can relate this to Desteni's self-forgiveness.

"C" writes:

    What comes up for me is:
    1. The hierarchy of the attack system may or may not be known consciously to the conduits, especially those at the lower rungs of the hierarchy.
    2. Compromise can be fractional or great; attacks come through integrity breeches of the chosen relay, and spread by contagion or artifice through to any weak spot of the end person.
    3. One can observe strings, little nagging ideas or "small faults" which can be explained away or overridden by other more positive or engaging attributes of the person in question. 4. On the other hand, "weirdnesses" or "personality quirks" are not necessarily indicators of contamination at all.
    5. The obvious "love and light" fallacy brings up a point of interest for me personally, and this relates to 3 above. [i.e. Forgiveness.]

    On the topic of forgiveness: this is something that can easily go on automatic, and appears to be a point where one can easily go blind to these little strings.

    When one is faced with attack, one needs to be very clear on the dynamics of a situation, and where one has consciously or unconsciously overlooked/forgiven someone for some wrong or fault, it creates weakness in one's own integrity. And by integrity I am not limiting my definition to moral integrity--I mean this as more of a generic "wholeness."

    When you go down the path of forgiveness, you also open up the realm of not-forgiveness. I think that the subject does warrant some new inspection/reworking of thoughts. I think that forgiveness going on as [an] automatic mental process is a Christian program. There is also the question of how can students truly forgive each other when every action/counteraction is part of lesson?

    I'm not advocating the holding of a grudge either by this.

    True forgiveness implies a canceling out of the other person's weak spot, an acknowledgment that the damage has been ended in the Forgiver.

    Forgiveness can be viewed in a mundane way as a judgment (just as a refusal to forgive can be judgment). It does not guarantee that the underlying weakness in the forgiven person has now been addressed and resolved. It also implies to the forgiven one that the forgiver has resolved his own lesson. Are we as humans really qualified to do this?

    Seemingly to me, in a similar way, when we make allowances for others' weak spots by reason of judging that their other good qualities "cancel out these weak spots," we agree to overlook, we can also close the door to receiving information about our own more unconscious aspects from our true friends. Integral to this type of scene of course would be the ability and means with which to make effective corrections and improvements. And of course each member would have the right and responsibility to maintain his/her own integrity. Any organization would be subject to contamination, and would be as strong as its weakest link.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave11e.htm
Already bold the parts they bold.