Re: do any of you actually believe in Karma & Reincarnation?
Thanks lyra on the Sylvia Brown info. Me and my mother watch her every Wednesday afternoon on the Montel Williams show. My mother has two of her books, I've read them both, interesting.
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Thanks lyra on the Sylvia Brown info. Me and my mother watch her every Wednesday afternoon on the Montel Williams show. My mother has two of her books, I've read them both, interesting.
I read an interesting thread on abovetopsecret by John Lear. He says Whitley Schreiber told him whatever you do, DON'T go into the light. Lear says he doesn't intend to follow that suggestion, that earth is a school we can't leave until we "graduate", and that our souls are recycled by some type of "soul-catcher" located on the moon.
WOD, I have the John Lear on Coast interview. I remember him saying those who perished in water were "lost souls" because for some reason they could not be retrieved. And he used the term soul-collector I believe, speaking of the 'unit' located on the moon. He had some unsettling info if it is to be believed.
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My point is that this work causes me to do things that make me vulnerable all the time now, but I would never go back. The shift into my heart and trusting the flow has affected every area of my life and all of my relationships. The more I trust that I am safe the more my life just flows, even in the midst of the darkness where I live and work. I see that we should never hold back because who knows what seeds spirit will plant through us and how our higher self working with cosmic forces will nurture and grow these seeds in perfect timing. The level of collective awakening is Now, and it is orchestrated by an aspect of the one spirit… on a level that leaves me in awe daily. I've such gratitude each and every day.
If we can trust in the ultimate safety of our Being -- who we are, where we are, what we're doing, and that it's all OK, maybe better than OK, that it is in fact, perfect...that does seem to be the point of view that best allows us to function as an aspect of who we truly are.
I've been thinking about this for the last couple days, about how certain people just have that channel open between their human selves and their higher selves. They know what the rest of us have to work to discover. Recognizing that open channel when it comes to us in the form of another person can be a key to finding it in ourselves, and much of the time the genuine articles slip right past us while we're paying more attention to whoever's talking about what they heard someone else talking about.
I believe in what you're saying about the collective awakening. I think we have trouble seeing it because we're really inside of it looking out. It's so easy to forget that it's Now, not maybe, or later that it happens.
Witnessing authenticity always stirs the heart, and even in the center of great contrast, every conscious act allows the greater plan to play out through us. I think it is awesome that you loaned us a piece of your heart and vision. That level of surrender and flow is very powerful and because it comes from purity, it is so much more powerful than proselytizing or pushing dogma. Allowing that flow leaves a map and helps us to help each other access our total potential. We can't allow fear to dull us, or limit what we are willing to shine and share in the moment. The open heart is infectious and reverberates out exponentially.
I didn't think it was so much about being afraid, but there are many facets to the fear frequency. You've mentioned fear several times here, and I'm going to take that to heart...because I'm afraid you may be right. :>)
As long as our hearts are pure and we are in a place of no agenda allowing the greater flow to use our bodies and voices how can we fear? Where I work I used to be very closed to believing that anyone could relate to my heart, my vision or dreams. I am surrounded by a never ending stream of.. I can’t even really say masculinity, because it’s more animal-like than human. The Brute archetype reigns… it’s very backwoods… rural maybe? laughs; but with a sharp edge of arrogance and entitlement as the wages are so high. Hillbillies with money, it’s quite the mix. Anyway, K3 chastised me and said she knew that I was there to hold a higher frequency and that I had to stop letting my mind interfere with what it could never conceive. That I had to override the mind and limiting patterns and just be natural and authentic. I slowly shifted and she was right (always). I have met a few men who have really opened and healed, as well as giving me an occasional relief from the testosterone overload that is my job place. My whole outlook of work is changed and I no longer dread it. Lately I am working on connecting more with the earth to see if I can be a channel for healing while I am there and use my time even more powerfully. The more I expand the more options there are.
This is funny. I've been in a work situation where I've been interacting with "hillbillies" for the last couple months (though not rich hillbillies, just regular working class guys). I have a very difficult time not being authentic, so I have to be much better than I'm used to about not running my mouth so much. I believe I understand what you mean about holding the higher frequency. It's challenging to find ways of getting past the energy they've been programmed to project as a means of dealing with their environmental and social circumstances. Usually I find that behind that aggressive (and kind of barbaric) energetic onslaught, they're built on the same patterns as I am.
One day I started paying attention to the pop/country music thats always on there and how almost every song is about the kinds of feelings and emotions those guys pretend they don't have. That was a clue.
My main focus of late has been watching what I attract in life. This shows me what my underlying beliefs are and allows me to leave as much room as possible to expand, grow, and to be blown away by the new. This is one of the powerful things about being able to openly share our dreams, paranormal experiences, our theories, or visions as you have… because all these different views open up new ways within us to perceive. It allows us to explore and break the paradigms placed to use our energy against us. The more unity we garner in, the more powerful we are at ushering in the new thought forms that need to take root in order for humanity to be freed. We are so busy infighting with each other, we may be limiting the next great discovery. It is my hope I can foster in my life a willingness to be proven “wrong” about everything that limits my experience and expression on earth. I hope to be shown and aligned to a more expansive way each and every day until we are totally free.
I hope to have time to share some of my own past life experiences and also some of how your vision triggered knowing in me. As is it is now, I am working long hours day and night, but having access to posts like yours makes the time a little easier and reminds me of my heart so this is a good thing; a cherished gift.
I've been looking at what I've attracted lately, but it's been kind of like not being able to look away at the scene of a car crash.
Das Moose, I really appreciate all you've shared and your kind words. You're very generous and it's empowering in a way that I haven't felt in quite some time. It's nice to talk to someone who's so committed to the path of the heart.
I look forward to hearing about your experiences whenever you have the time to share them.
I read an interesting thread on abovetopsecret by John Lear. He says Whitley Schreiber told him whatever you do, DON'T go into the light. Lear says he doesn't intend to follow that suggestion, that earth is a school we can't leave until we "graduate", and that our souls are recycled by some type of "soul-catcher" located on the moon.
So you mean, we're lunch?! Really, it's known as the "Harvest." The whole "Harmonic Convergience" scam was nothing but free beer on the house, courtesy the White Light Construct.
You really gotta check this site, it's pretty heavy with a scenario that the whole airy-fairy, New Age, Ascension-by-2012 Show is nothing but a War In Heaven-ish psychic swindle, and turns the whole New Age Mythos on its head. That's right. God is dead.
http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/
I didn't think it was so much about being afraid, but there are many facets to the fear frequency. You've mentioned fear several times here, and I'm going to take that to heart...because I'm afraid you may be right.
To the contrary, I find you very brave, fearless even. Fear is just something on my mind lately.
This is funny. I've been in a work situation where I've been interacting with "hillbillies" for the last couple months (though not rich hillbillies, just regular working class guys). I have a very difficult time not being authentic, so I have to be much better than I'm used to about not running my mouth so much. I believe I understand what you mean about holding the higher frequency. It's challenging to find ways of getting past the energy they've been programmed to project as a means of dealing with their environmental and social circumstances. Usually I find that behind that aggressive (and kind of barbaric) energetic onslaught, they're built on the same patterns as I am.
One day I started paying attention to the pop/country music thats always on there and how almost every song is about the kinds of feelings and emotions those guys pretend they don't have. That was a clue.
I imagine the difference between our respective hillbillies is very subtle; additional chrome on the pick up trucks maybe?… imported chewing tobacco?:) or the phrase, “I’m going to go whittle some, and check my stocks” I kid… because it makes me feel superior. But seriously I experienced almost the exact situation and realization around the music at work a couple of days ago. Awesome that you sited that as an example, it pieced it together for me. It’s so true that behind the exo-skeleton of abrasiveness and aggression are parts that long and yearn for deeper connection, but are smothered and limited by programming and fear. I’ve also come to that conclusion that they are built on the same patterns as me; they’re holding exaggerated parts of me to work with, which is by no means a simple task, laughs, and I value them for wearing it. I have found that as I have observed my sponsoring energy and shifted within, this creates an opportunity for them to reflect the new pattern. This can be very freeing, however there is still the other levels like social consciousness, that can draw them back into the old patterns. The choice points can be a template of lucidity in an otherwise chaotic nightmare. We can’t be attached to an outcome we can only be genuine when we share our own process.
I've been looking at what I've attracted lately, but it's been kind of like not being able to look away at the scene of a car crash.
Very funny and true for me too. It helps to share. Thanks. You helped me see something I have been missing. Speaking of car crashes, I eventually hope to find the time to tune in properly and write some karma and reincarnation stories.
Thanks lyra on the Sylvia Brown info. Me and my mother watch her every Wednesday afternoon on the Montel Williams show. My mother has two of her books, I've read them both, interesting.
No problem - the book is called "Past Lives, Future Healing" in case you're curious. I went searching through my box of stuff and realized I still have a copy of it. I'm going to re-read it later, see if I find any interesting tidbits that would be good to post excerpts from.
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Something I forgot to mention several posts back when I was talking about the Oregon trail possibility and my trip out to Astoria in January 2002- the next morning after that trip, a Sunday, I woke up in my brother's apartment where I was crashing at the time and sat up in my air mattress and noticed something on the floor at the end of the mattress. I reached over and picked it up, realizing it was a map. One of those National Geographic maps. I unfolded it and realized.....it was a map showing all the pioneer trails out west, and the Oregon trail. Different routes were noted in different colors, and there were these historical bit and blurbs of insight on the sides of the map. It was dated July 2000 I believe. So from about 6 months earlier, a relatively recent issue. But there were no National Geographics in the apartment. I certainly didn't have any and either did my brother. The apartment was very tiny, it would have been hard to miss.
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I later asked my brother - more like demanded in an alarmed "!!!!" way - where this came from. He looked at me frowning and puzzled, slightly annoyed at being bothered and had no idea. He kept insisting he had no idea where it came from, and meanwhile I was just
at the amazing "coincidence" of it all. REALLY weird. Portland was a weird time in general with strange reality stuff going on, and lots of conspiracies and even a UFO sighting one night apparently, so in a way it doesn't surprise me. But still, even that boggled my mind a bit. The odds are astronomical that a National Geographic map specifically pertaining to the Oregon trail would spontaneously appear at the end of my bed the next morning after I drove west on Route 30 - which literally lies on top of the old Oregon trail- out to Astoria where I stopped and perused through the historical society museum, looking with fascinated interested at all their pioneer/Oregon Trail relics. So much so that I don't even question the nature of this incident, I just know it was artificially constructed by something else. By who though, and for what purpose, I'll never know.
Here is a comparison of two texts, "Shopping for Spirit Part 8" by Steve Gamble (which was mentioned in the opening post) and "Secret Brothoods and the Mystery of the Human Double" by Rudolf Steiner. Both involve human fetuses receiving not only a human soul, but also a negative entity attachment.
Every newborn baby is born complete with its own soul and light inside it. When a child is conceived, as the foetus grows and the child develops and forms, the separation of the inner spirit and the development of the soul (consciousness/identity) beings - as we covered in chapter three. This separation allows the spirit and the child to become aware of itself, and the newborn soul is naturally a perfect reflection of the purity of the spiritual light. All this is happening within the body of the newborn and not external to it. Creation starts at the centre and expands outwards as we have covered with these writings.
We can understand from the above description of 'reincarnation' give to Dr Newton by a 'reincarnated soul' that this type of soul is totally external to the 'soul' of the foetus, baby, or young child, and is merely biding its time using deceitful tactics, pretending to be a playmate and so forth until it can gain the confidence of the child and enter the child's energy field. This is similar to a virus or pathogen that cannot enter a healthy cell and it has to wait for the cell's energy field to become compromised or weakened before it can enter and cause damage to the cell and interrupt its memory and energy fields, thereby causing the cell to become ill or unhealthy.
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These lost souls are programmed into believing that these human beings, who they have been brainwashed into 'entering' - very often young children - are primitive and cannot survive without their help. They forget that these young children have existed quite happily without them for much of their lives and, if they had been that 'primitive' I'm pretty sure the parents would have noticed!
Much of what you have just read about the 'reincarnation' of these possessing lost souls may appear disturbing, but for me the really disturbing part about all this is that these lost souls actually do believe they are entering a body prepared for them. They also believe that they are there to take over the mind of the human soul to improve its life and give it depth of personality. These lost souls firmly believe that they are reincarnating into a new life, THEIR life, and they cannot see or comprehend that they are merely possessing a living human soul. This is like a computer virus that searches and searches until it finds a weakness and a way into the computer and then unloads its programmed payload causing havoc in the host.
It is only when we examine the false spirit world that these lost souls describe coming from - their perceived hom - that we can begin to comprehend that they have been totally brainwashed and conditioned into believing that what they say is correct.
So we arrive in this world with the garment of our organism without being able to reach down into it with our soul to any great extent. Instead, shortly before we are born, not very long before we are born, there is also an opportunity for another spiritual being, apart from our soul, to take possession of our body, namely, of the subconscious part of the body. This is a fact. Shortly before we are born another being indwells us; in the terminology we used today we would call this an ahrimanic being. It is just as much in us as is our own soul.
These beings lead their lives by making use of human beings to enable them to inhabit the sphere in which they wish to dwell. They have an exceptionally high degree of intelligence and a very significantly developed will, but no qualities of soul, nothing like what we would call the human qualities of soul and heart and mind. So we proceed through our life while having our soul and also a double who is far cleverer than we are, very intelligent, but with a mephistophelian intelligence, an ahrimanic intelligence, and in addition also an ahrimanic will, a very strong will, a will that is much more akin to the forces of nature than it is to our human will which is ruled by our heart and mind.
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These beings of high intelligence [...] have decided out of their own will that they do not want to live in the world to which they were assigned by the wise gods of the upper hierarchies. They want to conquer earth, so they need bodies. Having no bodies of their own they use as much of human bodies as they can since the human soul cannot quite fill out the human body.
While a human body is developing, these beings can slip into it at a specific point before birth, and thereafter they accompany us beneath the threshold of our consciousness. But there is one aspect of human life they cannot stand, and that is death. So they always have to depart from the human body they have invaded before it is afflicted by death. This is again and again a bitter disappointment of them, for what they so much want to succeed in is to remain in the human body beyond death. In their own kingdom this would be a high achievement for these beings; but so far they have failed in this.
There is more about this in the Steiner book, how the attachment is an etheric double whose strength depends on the etheric emanations from the earth which varies according to geographic areas, how it's particularly potent in America. But I need a digital version to post these excerpts... will obtain and post a PDF eventually, otherwise the Amazon link is here. (There is also an interesting comment by Steiner of vaccinations being used to shut down people's spiritual inclinations. Makes sense because autism is a symptom of that effect overshooting its target, and autism is linked to vaccinations.)
Thanks!
I would like to read that PDF, this is a very complicate/complex thing to
understand well.
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I do believe in reincarnation. I have ever since I was younger. Once I found out what the term meant I was about 7 or so, I was just like: "Yeah that makes sense" Intuitively it made sense to me.
I had a very similar experience. I was raised Christian and wasn't ever told what reincarnation was. But when I was about seven years old I was boating with friends and my friend's dad said, looking up at a seagull: "You know, if reincarnation were true, I'd want to come back as a bird."
I had to ask him what reincarnation was because I didn't know. He told it was the belief that we live more than once, and that some people believe that we could come back as animals. When he said it there was an instant knowing in me that it was somehow true (despite the fact that he didn't believe it, my friends didn't, and that I was conditioned to believe it wasn't true).
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I have a friend whose first memory is of waking up suddenly with a panicked feeling at about two years old. He says the thought process was: "What the hell am I doing here? What am I?" Meaning Earth, and his human body. He says he had a deep knowing that he used to be somewhere else, on another planet, in another type of body.
Yes ...
Part of my journey required that i discovered my previous incarnation - so i kind of knew where i was up to in evolutionary terms and determine what my "mission" was - to help out humanity somehow.
As a youngster i was a collector of crystals and also spent time stargazing and things started to fall into place when i consciously embarked on my path - begining with exploring all things Magical/mystical and culminating in discovering my past life as an ET. I'm still researching and pulling my story together, but have most of the information and just really need to start to write it down.
I read this last-night and thought i would type it out to see what you feel about it. Of course i'm not claiming this as gospel ; but feel there's some interesting ideas and concepts ...
Excerpt from "Starlight Elixirs" by Michael Smulkis and Fred Rubenfeld.
This galaxy's influence enhances the ability to understand the long-term purpose of humanity's evolution.This includes the ability to recall one's past lives as different life forms, such as dinosaurs. In some cases these remembered lives are extraterrestrial.
The energy of Andromeda primarily relates to the understanding of the early incarnations of humanity as the Himalaya mountains. These lives are important aspects of one's being. The Himalayas exist as the Rock of Gibralter for understanding the influence of mountains on human awareness. The Himalayas have existed in so many different ways for very long periods of time, and indeed were the first little pokings up out of the sea of hills and eventually islands and mountains in the early phases of Earth history before humanity ever appeared in any form and animal life was unknown. In this way they are the first to bring some sense of separation or difference between the land and sea, and were the ideal repository of consciousness, though in a primative form, of humanity as a group. Their great height at the current time is related to humanity's need to understand it's own history. For people to understand themselves, they must look with symbolism and awakening in their consciousness to whom they have been. Because of their height, people will be attracted to them and learn about them, and in this way learn about themselves. It is partly to do with Elohim influence that these mountains symbolize so much spiritually for humanity.
Working with the energy of Andromeda can also enhance the ability to perceive the overall picture. The understanding that an individual may fit into a larger cosmic scheme is brought into greater awareness and consciousness. This can help one feel a part of the cosmos and a part of universal thought and understanding.
Andromeda's energy has the ability to bring the physical body into a state of balance and alignment with oneself and others, which may result in an internal state of balance. Awareness of the love principle contributing to the soul's evolution, and ultimately to God's evolution, is brought into consciousness with this energy. This results in most of the things we have mentioned above.
The energy of this galaxy can be attuned to directly by individuals when they are not involved in the thinking process, as when they are receiving this light through dance, music, through meditation, movement or even sleep.
A number of individuals from Earth have had a chance to visit Andromeda. In some ways Andromeda is a mirror of many aspects of the Milky Way Galaxy. Andromeda's central energy in some ways is a mate to the energy located in the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. Because of this innate affiliation, certain capacities that might be ascribed to yin and yang exist at a galactic level. Many individuals who have had difficulties in understanding what it is to exist on Earth or even in other civilisations associated with the Milky Way have had direct past-life experiences within the Andromeda system. Individuals who have some attunement to Andromeda, because they have seen a picture of it or perhaps have gazed upon it in the heavens at night, will do well with this elixir and may find past memories of long journeys to other places, other times, and other people.
Much schooling of individuals to some understanding of what it means to be involved in the Milky Way system has taken place in the Andromeda system. But very few individuals are natives of that place, but rather they have come here to experience Earth and retain some memories of Andromeda because at times, when the going was very tough here, they could have a shifted perspective, a new way of working with things by a breif visit or a fairly brief lifetime somewhere in the Andromeda system. Because it is a system just like the Milky Way, there are many capacities there, many things that go on, many planets, and several of these mirror Earths development on some levels. But there is in general with such planets some inability to welcome great radical change, as change as such has been destructive enough in that place. So therefore it is a little different; it is somewhat associated with periods of relative inactivity, peace, a feeling within oneself of a gathering rather than of an expression.
How many posters here feel like (or remember, or have had visions that suggest) they've had off-planet past lives?
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