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So are you telling us that some of these videos show actual switching of personalities of celebs?! yikes

Crispin glover may be a multiple, hell, most of hollywood is and many famous comedians are! I think Tom Cruise, and Jim Carrey are. Here's an article I read that made me wonder about Carrey.

"Jim Carrey is maybe two years from becoming a punch line. But he's cool with that. "Everyone gets to be the big joke for a year. That's this business," he says. "Last year it was Tom Cruise. I could be the next Kathie Lee Gifford. But you have to say to yourself, 'Wait a minute, dude, that's not you.'"

You see, Carrey has found spiritual enlightenment, and it's so awesomely awesome that he just has to tell you about it. For hours. Even if you didn't ask. In fact, he has to write a book about it. "It will be more representative of who I am than anything I've ever done," he says. "I feel like I know something. These thoughts make me feel like I'm wearing gold shoes." He's thinking of calling it Be Ready to Be O.K. If that weren't begging to be mocked on VH1's Best Week Ever on its own, he's also got a children's book in him. "It's called Cynthia's New Friend. "It's about how we hate change. We hate people to change because we're afraid they'll fly away."

That's the thing you have to admire about Carrey even as you cringe at what he's saying: he's not afraid. He's not afraid of getting made fun of, he's not afraid of change, and he's not afraid of his audience flying away. In fact, every time he's become successful at something, he's stopped doing it. As soon as he became famous as an impressionist, he stopped doing characters. After he got traction as a stand-up, he retired his act, going onstage without any material, often being overtly hostile to his audience. When that got him a job on Fox's sketch show In Living Color and led quickly to a $20 million paycheck, he decided to ditch his devoted Adam Sandler-loving audience by making the disturbing, dark comedy The Cable Guy and dropped his price to make such dramas as The Truman Show and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind."

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 … 12,00.html

I think David Letterman could be a programmer and the other interviewers for that matter its like they are playing a finely tuned instrument when they get these mind controlled people. I'll never forget that Springmeier said much of hollywood was made up of Intelligence people. Oh and Crispin Glover was clearly flying on acid in that first video lol

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Shoogie wrote:

I think David Letterman could be a programmer and the other interviewers for that matter its like they are playing a finely tuned instrument when they get these mind controlled people.

That's exactly what I was thinking as I watched the Letterman interview with Crispin.  !   Sure, he's trained to just roll with things, and ultimately he's the one in control as he sits there behind his desk, on his show, being the bossman.  But how much of it is him being in control because it's his show...or because he knows something we don't? 


Shoogie wrote:

I'll never forget that Springmeier said much of hollywood was made up of Intelligence people. :

Yup...and that's what I thought about next after watching the Letterman interview.  The fact that for instance, Johnny Carson was former Navy.   I don't know if he was Naval intelligence, or what he did.  I'm trying to load up a new internet page to do a search on his history, but our internet is crapping out on us right now.  Will have to wait til later.

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I would be interested in knowing that Lyra. Letterman actually gives me the creeps, even before I knew about this stuff. He gives off a dark vibe, like he'd be violent, sadistic. 

Danny Kaye comes to mind too. He starred in a movie where at one point he was doing stand-up using all these diff crazy voices, just one right after the other. And then, through a  caemra trick, he literally splits into three of himself standing there on film.

By the way The Secret Life of Walter Mitty which he starred in, is unavailable today. Its something like $300 on Amazon and unavailable on netflix. I wanted to watch it after Springmeier pointed it out as the perfect example of the life of a programmed multiple

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Back to Roseanne this is a great special she's really taking it out.

Here's Part 1 the other parts are on the side bar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFoB9P3n … mp;search=

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lyra wrote:

Fritz Springmeier said years ago in his books that Roseanne was a programmed multiple, but I don't know if it was before she was publicly talking about it or not.  Tom Arnold was saying in an interview, I think with Howard Stern, not sure, that he never knew who he was coming home to.  There were times when she was a four year old, wanting to play toys.  Other times she was an adult. 

I like Roseanne.  And I feel bad for her.  Recently Rense posted one of Roseanne's blog entries from her website, because she was criticizing Zionism, despite being a Jew.  So Rense was supporting that view of course.  Out of curiosity I went to her website to read her writings, see what she's up to.....and I came away from it feeling sad, just felt really bad for her.  She means well, and I agree with many of her viewpoints, but there's clearly an issue going on upstairs, and it comes through loud and clear in her writing.  Her writing is a bit chaotic and disjointed, a major indicator of the brain being scrambled and having issues.   But she talks openly about her MPD.  She's very much aware there's an issue.   She said she's purposely stayed off the meds for the past few years, and has instead tried tackling her issues with meditation and spirituality.  People who know her have said that she's very grounded and in a better place than she has been in years.  So whatever alternative methods she's using it seem to be working.  At least, they're working as good as it can possibly get when the issue is that serious.

Here's a five minute clip of an interview for Bill Maher that Roseanne did last November on her birthday.  She looks great and at first sounds really good.  But when she gets going about her political views and opinions you can tell something isn't fully right.   It's not that she has strong opinions - many people put before the public on television do, after all.  It's the way in which she's talking.  It just sounds off, not the way a normal person would speak their opinions. She also blinks a lotta lotta lot when talking, and I'm wondering what that might indicate.  I've studied a little bit on body language but don't recall if excessive blinking was mentioned and if so what it meant.  Oh wait......In "V For Vendetta" Evie (Natalie Portman) says that she can tell when the newscaster woman is lying because she'll blink a lot when she does.   So that makes me wonder if the same applies here to Roseanne, and if so, what that's all about.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iKpoiq1lgJU

On a funny sidenote I saw a clip on YouTube of Roseanne interviewing Tori Amos on her show.  Who btw seems to me to have issues as well.  But Tori makes Roseanne look sane.  big_smile   Tori's very sweet, she just has this airy, off-in-the-clouds way of being that makes Roseanne seem positively grounded and on the ball.  But Roseanne has a good interview style from what I saw in that clip.  Very warm, very real and personable and likable.

Tori's a free spirit which is hard in this world and she's very smart. So yeah I can see how she's seen as weird to most. I'm afraid that Tori sounds like most of the members on this forum she's into weird stuff like we are. big_smile Can't help it I've loved her dearly since I was 12.

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hey bell.  i wanted u to know i saw her yesterday AM and she had on many difft "looks" advertising her new album and sang some from it.  i liked it, alot.  she looks cool to me and i like her now, and know her a little better and was interested in her more, cuz of you.  u dont have to apologize for who and what u like. 

and from the midwest?  i didnt realize that but its clearer now.  yes yes, lots of weirdo 'bad breeding'  familial strangeness from there, generations of it.  small town politics, lots of 'life vignettes' that can stick with a person for eons, makes any one out of the ordinary look quite 'off'.  i was lucky was in the 60's and 70's there and WE WERE ALL STRANGE then, thank god/orange cloud.  i understand.  i totally agree with u on the bad seed/kid deal.  were programmed to think kids arent evil and all fine in the little pkg--wrongo.  we see thru that.

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Yeah Tori's great so much of what we talk about on this forum I've been hearing her talk about in interviews since 1992. She was probably the first person that made me feel like it's okay not to agree with the masses. Her music is addictive though LOL She just writes, sings and plays so different than most. You go to a concert of hers and you feel energized afterwards and I swear not like you were looshed.  Every concert I've gone to has been like a spiritual experience for me. She's big on intention this is sharing energy she says this a lot. Very wise lady.

Well, I hate to say some kids are bad seeds but some are. I remember a quote from Jane Austen's book Pride and Prejudice. "Those who are good natured as children are good natured when they grow up." You are who you are. If you enjoy inflicting misery on other beings as a child so you will as an adult. I've yet to see this miracle change around people say is possible. But, if it is than that's great I just haven't personally seen it.

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Shoogie wrote:

So are you telling us that some of these videos show actual switching of personalities of celebs?! yikes

I an telling nothing, just found it to be related, maybe... roll

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I think Tori gets extremely nervous when she is being recorded, especially in front of a camera, she tends to freeze up and do strange things.  I read one article recently where the writer commented that she spoke very freely before he actually started interviewing her, but when he turned the recorder on she tensed up and started speaking very slowly, thinking carefully about what she was saying.  Over the years she has become a lot more guarded with the media than she used to be.  It's hard to understand how horrifying it can be if you've never been put in this situation, but magazine editors, television editors and the like can very easily snip things and twist a person's words around to make it seem as if they said something they didn't intend to say at all.

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Well you know what they do to her they call her crazy or kooky. She's a live concert performer not a trained monkey for TV. And she's a great person one on one to people that are her fans. The media machine is just evil those of us not in it know that. Have you seen this Athenais?


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Tori has always sent up red flags for me in terms of having "stuff" going on with her.  Her father was a minister, which unfortunately is usually never a good thing, a lot of stigma and problems seem to come with having very religious parents, especially minister fathers;  they lived in Rockville Maryland, where the NSA headquarters is located, (and which is a stone's throw from DC in general);  she's been raped, and, she has all her "alter egos."  Alter egos is the same thing as multiple personas...and which seems to run rampant within the entertainment industry, with music performers specifically.  (Talked about it before in another thread somewhere, about Eminem, Mariah Carey, Beyonce, Janet Jackson, Madonna, Britney Spears, and all the rest who have their multiple persona alter egos....)   

Tori's latest album is done completely from the standpoint of all her alter ego multiple personas - something like three or four other women characters that she's invented sing the songs.  Which is a clever idea actually, I've never heard of that before.  Why be boring and sing all the songs on every album as just yourself, right?  So yeah, that's clever I guess.  And when I was just looking up stuff about her on Wiki, I also saw this with regards to her album "Scarlett's Walk":

"Thematically, the album explored Amos's alter ego, Scarlet...."

Adding that to her latest album and all the alter egos on that one as well, it left me wondering, DANG!  How many other personalities does Tori have??!?  big_smile  Wow!

Is she "mind controlled" per se?  No, probably not.  Not in the sense of having a "Svengali" controller (or several controllers) directing her life, the way Mariah and Beyonce, Britney and Janet, etc. have.  I don't know anything about her really, only just learned that she was even married and had a kid.  Or that she was now 44.   I thought she was still a single rocker chick and was only in like, her late 30s or something.  big_smile  So what do I know.  But there's definitely SOMETHING unusual going on with her.   

I've never been "into" Tori's stuff the way Tori-philes are, like you hear about.  My friend Mike in California brought me to a Tori concert at the Greek Theater in L.A. back in '96, because he had two tickets and needed someone to go with him and I'm always up for an adventure (and all Tori-philes reading this are going to be very upset I'm sure), but I was just kind of bored.  I'd liked some of her radio hits, but overall it wasn't the type of music I was into.  Between songs when interacting with the audience she kept pausing in her uncompleted sentences to look around in a dazed way, mumbling about stuff and giggling in a dazed way. Mike had to explain to me that Tori has fairies that she can see.  I was just like, Oh.  Okay.  Back then I had a very sensible and guy-ish energy about me (although I didn't look like a guy wink ) so chick music with strange lyrics that I didn't understand and seeing fairies wasn't really my thing.  It was Mike's thing though, because he was more of the girl energy.  (even though he didn't look like a girl. haha) 

With that said, when I recently went hunting for some Tori music online, I came across "Precious Things," which I'd never heard.  Great song!   Powerful stuff.

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yes, I noticed the fact that her dad was a minister and the MPD album theme as well. I like her very much as an artist, but these things are mega suspicious. Not to mention her clear switching in interviews and performances.

MPDs make good performers and artists. They say Mozart was deliberately tampered with to create a musical genius

My People Were Fair And Had Sky In Their Hair...But Now They're Content To Wear Stars On Their Brows

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Sorry but yawn. Not everyone is an MPD. She's way too smart and independent minded for that. She's very into studying myths, art, metaphysics, the gnostic texts, etc. So if that's going to be our requirement for this than we all might want to put our name down on the witch list.

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If she was groomed to have altars in any way, then I'd say she's owned them-- which could be a very powerful thing.  Everyone has to own their own darkness, and the only way to do that is to plunge intelligently into your depths.  That can make one look crazy to other people, but it's the only way to truly be free.   And hey-- I'm not one to knock folks who see fairies!  big_smile

One thing I'm learning now is that there is a difference between authentic darkness (fertility, respite, mystery) and the darkness that's been co-opted by evil (hidden agendas, evil, corruption).  I need to do that write-up soon, but it's still brewing.

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Lono wrote:

One thing I'm learning now is that there is a difference between authentic darkness (fertility, respite, mystery) and the darkness that's been co-opted by evil (hidden agendas, evil, corruption).  I need to do that write-up soon, but it's still brewing.

Please do.-lala

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