Mind Controlled Celebrities (Page 10 of 18)

I suspect that he was probably implanting numbers into both of you, either using real telepathic abilities, or perhaps more worldly techniques. I suspect the latter.

While I'm not going to deny the reality of telepathy as I have no doubts that some people are capable of it, what he's done to you there is a simple parlour trick compared to what I've seen Derren Brown do, a man who claims to have absolutely no psychic or telepathic abilities.

I've written briefly about Derren before, a guy who's become a minor celebrity in the UK for his "Mind Control" & his more recent "Trick of the Mind" tv shows.

From his website: "Derren Brown is a unique force in the world of illusion - he can seemingly predict and control human behaviour.

He doesn't claim to be a mind-reader, instead he describes his craft as a mixture of magic, suggestion, psychology, misdirection and showmanship.

Whatever you choose to call it, his unparalleled performances amaze and unsettle all those who watch him. This is a powerful and provocative form of entertainment, unlikely to be imitated for a long while." http://www.derrenbrown.co.uk/?flash=no

Now if Derren pulled the whole 'I'm going to act all mysterious and pretend I'm really magic' schtick like David Blaine, you would probably swear blind that Derren absolutely has to be using psychic powers, and really must be using telepathy. Yet he claims he isn't and to prove it he regularly shows viewers how the tricks are done.

Sometimes when he demonstrates a trick, in some ways it becomes even more amazing because your thought is "what? And that actually works!!?? How??"

Often it's just simple but incredibly powerful suggestion techniques that are so incredibly subtle that there's almost no way the conscious mind would pick up on them unless it was already anticipating them. Yet the subconscious mind certainly is picking up on them, and I guess it's the subconscious mind that he's really speaking to.

I guess in a way, it really is a form of magic because it's an incredible ability to have. What he can do is, for all intents and purposes, magical and it's also something that takes many many years to hone and perfect. Derren shows that you don't need real psychic powers in order to control people and have them doing or saying what you want them to. And that's pretty scary when you think about it.

Anyway if anyone here uses Bit Torrent then I found a few of his shows here:

http://www.torrentreactor.net/search.ph … rren+brown

I strongly recommend downloading the "Messiah" episode which was a one-off, that is guaranteed to blow you mind.

I haven't been able to watch the Derren shows, (will try to later when I get home...) but it all sounds fascinating.  It sounds like he's really mastered linguistic programming and the art of body language.

Regarding this:

This is very true.   I'm no Derren, nor do I strive to be, but, I have good body language / voice recognition / speech pattern analysis.   Not sure necessarily where it came from, but it has enabled me to nail many people down regarding many things, to some people's amazement.   It's something related to this topic I think, because if I wanted I could try to trick people and make them believe "Oh, I'm reading minds here!"  when really I'm using the powers of observation.   It stems from having an interest in people and really watching them and really listening to the things they say.   It's all a matter of simply being alert, and paying attention, but like you say, so many people are dull and asleep.   They're not even interested in themselves, let alone anybody else, so really, how can they "read" anybody?

A good example of this, which was purely based on analyzing bodily cues:

-  Was standing in the waitress station at one restaurant I worked at in California, listening to my fellow server mumbling about this one jerk guy at one of her tables.  I looked over the small divider wall and scanned all her tables, and all the people sitting in her station.   Then I asked her, "Is it table (___whatever table # it was)  The guy leaning back with arms across the back of the booth?"  Her eyes got big and she said "Yeah...how did you know that??"   Then I said, "Does he have a New York sounding accent?  You know, something from the Northeast?"  Her eyes got REALLY big and she said "YEAH....HOW DID YOU *KNOW* THAT??" 

It was easy.  His body language gave it all away.   People from California are vastly different from Northeasters.  Californians are quiet, mellow, laid back, unobtrusive.  Their body language reflects this. Northeasters are aggressive, domineering, loud, and their body language conveys this too.   When I scanned the people sitting in her station, there was only one guy leaning back, full of bravado and confidence, with arms splayed out on the back of the booth; everybody else's limbs were kept close to their bodies, unobtrusively.  So I knew that  A) Out of everybody there it had to be him that was rubbing her the wrong way because it was a case of "One of these things is not like the other!..."  and B) he was probably not from Cali, more like the northeast, based on that body language and the fact that he was rubbing her, a native Californian, the wrong way.  And I was right!

I could have just messed with her and told her I was psychic.  Which I partly am, but I think a good deal of "intuition" comes from subtle body language and vocal clues.   Some people are more sensitive to others and pick up on this stuff better because they just have better observational skills in general. It's why I can spot a con artist a mile away, how I sense when people are insincere and fake, or true and genuine.   It's not reading their minds per se, it's reading their faces, voices, and body.   Even words, when it's via an email.  I don't have control over it, it just happens.  I just do it, with everybody I encounter.  It's very handy.

But if a person grasps the ability to read body / facial / vocal language and understands the workings of subtle linguistic cues, it opens up endless possibilities for what some would consider "black magic" abilities.  Black magic, because it involves manipulating unknowing asleep people for your own amusement or benefit.  I'm not putting judgment on it, just explaining why it would be considered this. It's an EXTREMELY powerful tool.   

On a related note there's a guy who's got these books out about how know if anybody is lying to you.  Some here may know what I'm talking about....?   His books are at any book store.   He's got reading people down to an absolute science, and I imagine it's what expertly trained detectives and such do when they're investigating and interrogating, which is all good.  But I think he's got a follow up book, if I remember correctly.............................about how to make anybody do what you want.  !!   I found the premise of that one pretty disturbing, but I'd have to take a look at it, see what he's actually proposing. 

All I can offer as a neutral sort of warning is, Be aware that there are people out there who do study this stuff, with the intention of misusing it.   So it's all the more reason to be alert and awake, and to really pay attention to yourself, and others, so you're on top of things in the event that you do cross paths with a manipulator who wants to misuse these abiltiies.

Okay, the Springmeirer books are tripping me out.

I read this last night:

It doesn't explain the "A MAY ZING" code, but I saw it on TV this morning.  A promo commercial for the talkshow "Ellen" was advertising it's "A "MAY" ZING" upcoming May shows.

Yeah, that would be about the way to sum it up.      They are a trip.  Not necessarily the types of books one can just sit down and read straight through like a normal book.   The way they're written is like either Fritz can't focus on writing coherent sentences, or else he was trying to cram pack the books full of information in a frenzy.  It's hard to tell which is the case.  I tend to use them more as a reference...anytime I want to see if a particular word or object or symbolism has a correlation in mind control, and if so, how, then I just run to the Fritz material.  Since there are copies available online, I can just do a "Control+F" to do a search, then type in the word I want to look up, and find all the instances where it appears in the document and go from there.   Sure beats trying to read the material straight through!   

Yeah, that's the other thing.....it tells you what the endless codes supposedly are, but there aren't explanations for many of them.   Some he does explain, or it's implied or understood, but others I guess maybe it doesn't matter.

Wow, that is weird.  !   I can see how it has innocent pun meanings, since it will soon be May in about a week or so, but maybe it has other double purposes behind it, you never know.   Something that's interesting to me at the moment is the idea of trigger phrases being embedded in movie posters and trailers.   Since so many people - probably most people - engage in some form of media entertainment, the easiest, fastest way that's guaranteed to reach a mass audience would be either TV or the movies.  And so if you decide you'd like to trigger some people who have particular programming, then of course do so via the adverts, posters and trailers that nearly everybody is going to see.

The first time I realized this was with regards to the tagline for the movie "Resident Evil 2."   

"My name is Alice...and I remember everything."

Just struck me as being a little...unusual.   Alice, as in Alice in Wonderland, which is one of the biggest mind control symbolisms in use, and the commanding phrase, "I remember EVERYTHING."   Just sounded to me a bit like, "Okay mind controlled kiddies, time to remember your programming." 

If someone is interested in looking into this, I suggest looking for those phrases that are most obvious in their overly suggestive and/or commanding tone;   phrases that don't seem to fit whatever was said before it, and seemed "tacked on" to the dialogue in some way, as well as those phrases that are the last "dun DUN DUNNNNN!!!!" thing spoken in a trailer or whatever, getting the spotlight emphasis.  It's a start, although certainly only the tip of the iceberg.   As Fritz's material illustrates, trigger codes and phrases can be far more intricate and covert.  The "A - MAY - ZING" thing for instance would have gone over my head.

Another thing that the Fritz material has been good for (and the Cathy O'brien book as well) is pointing out the heavy use of puns in programming.  Until reading these two authors, I never thought about puns.   In fact, I quickly came to realize that for some reason, my mind doesn't recognize puns!!   Only after reading the material was I slooooowly able to start recognizing that many CD titles for instance or band names or whatever utilize puns.   Some stuff I was recognizing was YEARS OLD!   Like all this time it never registered in my mind that it was a pun.  I took it literal.  Talk about weird.   I don't know how the mind works, or why that would be in my case, but I guess I'm not adept in the art of punning.   Whoosh, right over my head.

For whatever reason (probably because I'm focused on it) I've been noticing references to mind control more and more in the last little while.
The other night on talk radio I heard a psychic who George Noory was interviewing refer to certain government personnel as "Kool-Aid drinkers."  I'd never heard the phrase before.  The psychic said that that's how contacts he has described the newest personnel in the intelligence agencies.

I looked it up on http://www.jargondatabase.com/Jargon.aspx?id=1323

When I heard the term I immediately thought of Ken Kesey's The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Tests and I thought the psychic was literally referring to LSD mind-control victims. ...Perhaps that is the subtext of the term.

Don't know if you've seen the Dissociative Disorders thread
(http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=3297), but in it I talk about a friend of mine who might've been mixed up in dark occult abuse/programming.  I don't think he has any alter-system, though.

I've been remembering more and more and more about my childhood relationship to him and...I don't know if I'm inventing connections, but as I go over the Springmeier material the craziest stuff keeps cropping up. 

For instance, Springmeier writes a crapload about Disney.  And then I remembered my friend, we'll call him A....his dad had a Disney villain obsession.  His office, their rec room, their knick-knack cabinets were all decorated with Walt Disney movie villains.  They had a white wood pool table that had the Disney villain faces custom-painted around the sides of the table.  And his dad had a villain-complex in general--something that my friend A. picked up.  Always wearing black, expensive gaudy jewelry, that kind of thing.  And even when videos were, like, $80 a pop, his family owned every Disney movie out on video.  They had Disney posters.  They gave my family one for Christmas. They went three times per year.  But, he didn't work for Disney or have family that did.  And he (the dad) wasn't a fun, cartoony guy--he was mean.  The Disney schtuff was all about status.  Why the villains...?

In the nerd realms I have traveled. Kool-aid has been common slang. It's popular on tech sites like slashdot where I once was a regular. Both references lsd and cult being applicable. Considered derogatory... As far as symbolism goes, it may still be significant. But usage of the term seems common to me.