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artichoke wrote:

What sort of celebrity impersonators do you have in mind?  Stand-up comics?  Stunt doubles in movies?

I am mostly talking about trained matrix agents who take over the lives of particular celebrities, such as the imitator who replaced Paul McCartney.  For more on this look here:  http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/index.html

I am definitely not referring to stunt doubles, or doubles used solely for security purposes.  I am talking about situations where a person is presented to the public as someone they are not, and becomes an actual spokesperson and representation for that soul identity.

Apart from that I feel that people such as Elvis impersonators, drag queens, and the like are generally soul emulators.  They put on on other identities because they do not have a clear sense of self.  Actors and performers of all kinds are often driven to their careers by deep feelings of insecurity and low self-worth.  But a perfomer who is self-aware can use their talent to illuminate the experience of another person, instead of robbing from it.

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Athenais wrote:
artichoke wrote:

What sort of celebrity impersonators do you have in mind?  Stand-up comics?  Stunt doubles in movies?

I am mostly talking about trained matrix agents who take over the lives of particular celebrities, such as the imitator who replaced Paul McCartney.  For more on this look here:  http://digilander.libero.it/p_truth/index.html

Whether it's a trained Matrix agent or not who replaced McCartney, or just somebody who decided to go for the megabux, that's weird!  I never read about that before.

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artichoke wrote:

Whether it's a trained Matrix agent or not who replaced McCartney, or just somebody who decided to go for the megabux, that's weird!  I never read about that before.

He didn't go for it on his own, though that's what the people behind it would have us believe to cover up their tracks.  I believe he has multiple identities that are controlled much like the way Monarch slaves are described as being programmed.  A lot of people in the entertainment industry are not who they say they are.  Identity is really the last frontier in human consciousness.  Confusion about basic identity is the strongest hold on our freedom.

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I'm still confused about this idea. Apparently, OP's are like windows or "portals" that are used by hyperdimensional beings to see in to this world and gather information about it. Is that right? I often get the distinct feeling that I am like a window through which some beings can look through or study this place. Almost like I am a tool used by an alien civilization to gather information about this world.

I feel sometimes I'm from another planet, another civilization, here to gather information about this place that they can use to a)wage war on other civilizations, or b)merely study the human condition.

Apparently im not alone in these thoughts. What im being told to do here in my lifetime is just study..non-stop....study everything about this place that I can...absorb as much knowledge and information as i can so that it can be used by the civilization that I come from...

It's almost like I'm an agent, or some sort of alien person that is like a clerk almost...here to record whats going on...a clerk or a reporter from another civilization. And i imagine there are many of us clerks and reporters here gathering information like scientists. I feel distinctly that I am some sort of scientist here from some other civilization collecting data like scientists do.

I'm here to merely observe and absorb everything I possibly can. I also feel like i shouldn't even be saying this, like i need to keep it under wraps because I'm exposing the agenda. So, it's almost like there are so many different agents from other civilizations here studying that we have to keep ourselves hidden and sly so as not to clue in the natives here as to what is going on.

We're not supposed to clue them in at all..we're supposed to just watch them and study them, without telling them that we're doing it. Any insights you can offer would be great.

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The idea is that organic portals are more easily "reached through" by external conscious intelligences such as animal group souls or hyperdimensional beings for the main purpose of harvesting energy from non-OPs around them. The thing is, even non-OPs can serve that function if their soul/spirit is not fully in control of their body or present in the moment, like when you are spacing out or letting your lower impulses yank you around. It's just that because OPs lack spirit (or soul, depending on your definition - soul is meant to mean individualized soul rather than part of a group soul) they are never fully in control of themselves, which makes them open portals or permanent walking "drinking straws."

As far as monitoring goes, other beings can see through your eyes anyway by telepathically tapping into your mind, but I think they prefer a more reliable method of abducting and implanting you to monitor everything you hear, see, feel, or think. Advanced military groups especially, since they are more hardware oriented. So being used as a flesh-and-blood camera or microphone is not limited solely to organic portals -- anyone who is implanted, possessed, or telepathically tapped can function the same.

However, the energy draining thing seems to be easier and more constant for organic portals due to that being their natural and instinctual function, and the fact that they do not have a direct connection via spirit to a Higher Self from which to get energy. Non-OPs can also drain energy, like people who take energy from others just to make themselves feel better. Except for those occultic people who pride themselves on energy vampirism, they tend to be victims of childhood abuse, ego insecurities, lack of attention, and lack of self-esteem, and like a drug the energy they take from others gives them a boost to temporarily counteract the inner emptiness and hunger.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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montalk wrote:

However, the energy draining thing seems to be easier and more constant for organic portals due to that being their natural and instinctual function, and the fact that they do not have a direct connection via spirit to a Higher Self from which to get energy. Non-OPs can also drain energy, like people who take energy from others just to make themselves feel better. Except for those occultic people who pride themselves on energy vampirism, they tend to be victims of childhood abuse, ego insecurities, lack of attention, and lack of self-esteem, and like a drug the energy they take from others gives them a boost to temporarily counteract the inner emptiness and hunger.

So, they're depressed. They lack an integrated personality because they have depression, and the mimicking that they do is because their personality or sense of self is so depressed or split off from consciousness that they have to create a personality because they dont know themselves strongly enough. Ive seen strong personalities be complete tyrants tho, with no empathy or compassion, just shear negativity and hate.

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whats the possibility of an unawakened spiritually unconscious personality believing awakened conscious personalities are mentally ill? Ive been accused repeatedly by some people of mental illness merely because i state things that appeal to mystical ideas or i have a great deal of consciousness....and im not the type of person hooked in to business and money-making etc., im more oriented towards inner realities, yet, i get accused of being mentally ill sometimes. I dont know if its me or them.

At 26 i had an awakening, and since then ive had a great deal of transformation, but who is to say its not just mental illness?...im either awakened or psychotic like they say. I cannot tell if im abnormal and psychotic or just an awakened soul.

Ive been accused of being dissociated, schizophrenic, psychotic, etc. yet, i clearly have a great deal of knowledge of these things that normal people don't have. The knowledge here on this forum i completely understand and relate with..but if i took this type of knowledge to other people, theyd think i was insane. I just dont get it. I either have a great deal more consciousness than other people or im ill like they say.

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The average person cannot distinguish between another having greater conscious awareness or lesser conscious integrity. The only thing they notice is that a person thinks differently, and since they themselves are "sane" a different person must therefore be "insane" -- nice logic, eh? Well, truly insane people tend not to question their own sanity because they tend to be ignorant of how they look to others (part of being disconnected from reality). In your case, whether you are sane depends on how willing you are to refine your ideas, to be responsive to feedback from experiences, and whether you think logically about things.

Communicating these ideas overzealously to others, who find that type of thinking alien to their own, is a very bad idea because you get nowhere except in deeper trouble and isolation. Another part of being sane is knowing how to gauge yourself according to the level of those you interact with.

Insane people don't care how they come across, hence the stereotype of them mumbling or yelling at strangers. True sanity is being aware of yourself, reality, and others and acting in an optimal and balanced manner according to wisdom and good sense. If others who lack awareness call you insane for it, then it is you who get to have the last laugh. The person with greater sanity and awareness can out-argue anyone who has less awareness and sanity, because the lesser person either gives in or starts rationalizing their ignorance via logical fallacies and circular reasoning, which they can be called out on. That's usually when they blow their top.

For me, the easiest way to know I am right and another is wrong, is if I have personally experienced or observed something that contradicts whatever ideas they are trying to defend, and if my ideas explain more things more elegantly than theirs. And if they themselves lack those experiences or observations, too bad for them. But for this to work, I have to be willing to acknowledge faults in my own ideas if something they say, which is logical and factual, contradicts it. Otherwise I cut off the feedback process and risk holding on to delusional ideas.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Oavada, Montalk made some very salient points about the insane-- they do NOT stop to question their sanity.  They don't care. 

Now, regarding your feeling of being an observer sent to record information, I believe this is completely possible.  I personally believe there are many "scouts" from other dimensions and worlds sent here, not to interfere, but to record and study.  There is nothing inherently evil or wrong about this, it's just a form of sociology.  Earth is a hotbed of activity right now, with  many changes happening and on the horizon.  It could simply be that this is "where it's at" right now, and that everyone wants to watch and see what happens.  The difference between the what the grays/ reptilians are doing and what the other "observers" is doing comes down to interference.  The negative forces are trying to alter and shift what's happening, the other races are "undercover," not in a malicious sense, but in a way that won't change the outcome by their obvious presence.  Just my take on it, though, and I'm sure there are others who will disagree with me.

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Re: Organic portals

montalk wrote:

If others who lack awareness call you insane for it, then it is you who get to have the last laugh. The person with greater sanity and awareness can out-argue anyone who has less awareness and sanity, because the lesser person either gives in or starts rationalizing their ignorance via logical fallacies and circular reasoning, which they can be called out on. That's usually when they blow their top.
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The thing ive noticed about the truly insane is that they hate logic. they commit one major fallacy: the naturalism fallacy. When you bring consistent analytical logic to some apes, they go "apeshit" and say it isnt "natural enough" . It's too "mechanical". So, most people cannot understand logic at all and they cannot be reasoned with..theyre monkeys..and the more you hang out with them and are exposed to their myriad reductionist fallacies, the more apelike you become, until youre the insane..i give up ..people are just so stupid most of the time.

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oavada wrote:
montalk wrote:

If others who lack awareness call you insane for it, then it is you who get to have the last laugh. The person with greater sanity and awareness can out-argue anyone who has less awareness and sanity, because the lesser person either gives in or starts rationalizing their ignorance via logical fallacies and circular reasoning, which they can be called out on. That's usually when they blow their top.
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The thing ive noticed about the truly insane is that they hate logic. they commit one major fallacy: the naturalism fallacy. When you bring consistent analytical logic to some apes, they go "apeshit" and say it isnt "natural enough" . It's too "mechanical". So, most people cannot understand logic at all and they cannot be reasoned with..theyre monkeys..and the more you hang out with them and are exposed to their myriad reductionist fallacies, the more apelike you become, until youre the insane..i give up ..people are just so stupid most of the time.

From what I've seen everybody consciously thinks by making analogies to catagories in their memory. This can be concrete (this is like the apple I ate yesterday) or abstract (this mathematical formula is like the way the world works). If someone's catagories are rigid and you say something that doesn't fit... why, you're crazy. It doesn't matter how logical you are, logic isn't one of their catagories.

Oavada, one of the things I've found is that you can't teach someone who isn't willing to consider new catagories of thought. If you want to get along with rigid monkeys just grunt about the latest sports scores and the hottest girl monkeys and explore new ideas with folks who are willing to grow.

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.

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oavada wrote:

I'm still confused about this idea. Apparently, OP's are like windows or "portals" that are used by hyperdimensional beings to see in to this world and gather information about it. Is that right? I often get the distinct feeling that I am like a window through which some beings can look through or study this place. Almost like I am a tool used by an alien civilization to gather information about this world.

I feel sometimes I'm from another planet, another civilization, here to gather information about this place that they can use to a)wage war on other civilizations, or b)merely study the human condition.

Apparently im not alone in these thoughts. What im being told to do here in my lifetime is just study..non-stop....study everything about this place that I can...absorb as much knowledge and information as i can so that it can be used by the civilization that I come from...

It's almost like I'm an agent, or some sort of alien person that is like a clerk almost...here to record whats going on...a clerk or a reporter from another civilization. And i imagine there are many of us clerks and reporters here gathering information like scientists. I feel distinctly that I am some sort of scientist here from some other civilization collecting data like scientists do.

I'm here to merely observe and absorb everything I possibly can. I also feel like i shouldn't even be saying this, like i need to keep it under wraps because I'm exposing the agenda. So, it's almost like there are so many different agents from other civilizations here studying that we have to keep ourselves hidden and sly so as not to clue in the natives here as to what is going on.

We're not supposed to clue them in at all..we're supposed to just watch them and study them, without telling them that we're doing it. Any insights you can offer would be great.

OMFG! I think you've just described me! This is so weird. When I read your post I was tingling all over. It resonated so much with me. I've done extensive muscle testing in the recent past, and it revealed some quite disturbing things to my freshly awakening mind. I'm not sure what's going on. But I know I'm not 'normal' and I know that quite a few people on this forum are here on some kind of mission, but each being's mission is different. Some are radically the opposite of mine. So that kind of goes with what you were saying about different agents.  I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be an observer or a shaker-upper, or what. I haven't figured that out. I stopped muscle testing for several reasons, so I haven't been getting anymore answers to the millions of questions in my mind. 

I've often wondered if I was going insane. I've wondered if I am an "OP" or a wanderer or something else. But I just can't accept that I have no soul. I am having a very hard time spiritually, but I still feel like I have some connection to the source. But the never-ending stream of questions still nag at me, and I've yet to put the puzzle together completely.  My pendulum once told me that I have no soul, or a higher self. Let me tell you, that day I freaked out. But I have to say that at that point I think I had several attachments in my energy field and I don't know who was answering me. I picked them up when I was doing the muscle testing, because I was naive and stupid. The other possibility is that we're getting into semantics here. With muscle testing, dowsing, channeling, whatever...the wording is suprisingly important. You must be very specific and accurate. I came upon that many times during my own "channeling" and learned some very valuable lessons. But anyway, my point is that the terms 'higher self' and 'soul' may not actually be the correct terms in the way that we use them. Hell, I don't know, at least that's what I'm hoping for. Of course, by the time I was done testing, I was getting jerked around big time, so maybe all of that weird shit was just lies or miscommunication. 

My one only 'real-life' friend is one who is also like me. We feel alot alike sometimes. She's told me about how there are times--usually when sleeping--that she feels like she's downloading or whatever. I've also had that before. Also, I don't remember my dreams very often. I don't know if that's connected or not. Maybe I'm just not dreaming very much because of the nightly download.  Or maybe I'm just totally frickin off my rocker and imagining all of this....

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i have to hone on in here.  from another angle--this is exactly what ppl are talking about on another thread "Bathroom Bullies."  and i'll show what i mean by talking about that on this thread at the end.  and i want Oavada and Seeking the Truth to know UR NOT NUTS--ur turned on now, there's no going back.  go to a county psych ward and look at the real nuts.  ur nothing like them and ur certainly NOT sick.  real psychotic mental illness looks nothing like u, is anything BUT what we talk of on NR.  its completely debilitating so we need to get off that.  and quick.  u are expanding, growing, knowing, gathering info, data, strength, ur refining urselves, discovering, evolutionizing.  u both came in here knowing stuff, and wanting to know more.  wanderer maybe, from another planet--maybe, incarnated here, watching others, taking in the state of things.  pondering on the 'current reality'.  and learning HOW TO LEAD. dont fight it.  BE it.  the time will come when u will need all u ARE when the planet shifts into more tenuous gears.  since age 3 i knew i wasnt "of" the same meat as ppl around me.  thank GOD.  i relish it.  i adore it.  im proud of it.  do u think thats nuts?  its NOT.  whats nuts is not recognizing it.  the greatest mission is to be here and find out everything u can about urself--ur favorite person.  the ONLY one u can count on.  u came here for that.  and to do it in a place that fought u every step of the way.

so talk about real insanity, ridiculous behaviors, from not knowing who u are to bathroom bullies.  to shopping cart idiots at stores, leaving carts in the middle of aisles, standing in front of u at shelves when ur clearly trying to reach for the things u need and grabbing other stuff that will practically fall on u if YOU dont move.  fishing around in their purses for coupons while the line gets longer.  and no opening of new lines because the $7.50 an hour dupes "are on break" all at the same time and then wondering why the profits r down.   while the rest of us are trying so hard not to be assholes, purposefully, even helping pods and OP's with courtesy and thoughtfulness, even going around a corner out of my way so that ppl stuck behind can get by.  even if it makes me late.  its the right thing to do, even if the others dont get that.  or purposefully, intentionally going the long way or going out of ur way so ppl arent stuck behind.  i want to be treated that way so I DO that, hoping that it will be pay forwarded.  living by principle all the time on such matters is important.  i dont care if they see it or appreciate it.  its what i have to do.  its a hierarchy of messes HERE.  its what this planet sponsors, in 3D.  THAT's whats crazy.  thats nuts.  thats completely illogical and it breeds more inanity, more insanity.  and then everybody wonders why and the govt will take millions of ur tax dollars to 'study' it.  absolutely nuts.  bonkers.  retarded.  dont have enough adjectives.  whats nuts is to be on earth and think ur nuts when indeed--u know perfectly  whats going on.  but everybody else doesnt, or is asleep.  thats CRAZY.  the whole planet eeks of it.  we gotta get over that and call a spade a spade. 

always muttering to myself--get me away from these ppl.  away from the ones i am separate from.  their vibes are dull, blank, its rare to see consciousness and knowingness in others, and they too, keep it clamped down.  for fear they'll be labelled as nuts.  it goes in big circles.  how all this works.  thats how the PTB get over on everybody.  theyre counting on that.  the majority have been dumbed down, bought the programs and r incalculcated.  the rest stay quiet or at least look like it.  trying to stay or look 'safe.'   u know--wouldnt wanna stand out in a crowd of OP's or pods--or would u? 

its a game of shadows, cover-ups and lack of genuineness.  its just easier for the non-awake and the OP's to be SUPERFICIAL.  or gutless- or have a who-cares dog eat dog attitude.  knowingness and real ingenuity, and the bliss and ecstasy of knowingness is anything but "who-cares" and quiet.  it blasts out out of some of us.  so dont go around thinking ur nuts and not build the CONFIDENCE u need on this route, here.  u need all u can get.  u r being tested every moment.  live up to it.  revel in it.  we all know how sickeningly annoying it can get out there dealing with these ppl (starting to call them 'the others' lately).  do not by any means keep questioning yourselves indefinitely.  KNOW what u KNOW and take ur stand.  and then keep going, do not let ur foundation be rattled.  build it, despite the OP's, the pods, ETC, the ones that everybody has described on numerous posts.  they all have a soul--even tho it may be very young, not illuminated yet, a dim light.  not mature, not EXPERIENCED.  the journey theyre on is completely difft, not in or of their awareness at this point in time.  they havent reached states of the same knowing many of us have, never will this time around.  and the gnostics describe that well.  unless one has experienced states out of the realms of the common mediocre man/life--they would not appreciate nor understand, nor grasp some of the things we know, believe in, etc.  one has to have lived it to FEEL it, know it.  and they dont allow themselves such pleasures.  thats not their agenda.  they dont get close to wondering about such because theyre even superficial with themselves.  my god, how insane.  real searching for answers cannot be allowed.  they have no references.  their foundations of knowing come from outside too often.  they have no reference points for such, so it is very simple and easy for them to say the rest of us are crazy.  they will find their way.  the rest of us know our way and live it, unflichingly.

i can hardly stand "going out" and i deal with PEOPLE for a living...dont get me started.  the truth is--and thats always from the  perspective of the beholder of its own "truth"--is that there are very few conscious ppl operating in the muck and mire here.  the rest of us ARE SEPARATE.  like it or not.  some of us are here on that mission.  some are not.  we're all in it together, but its is very difficult to be in the situation we're in and have to share the world with others that do not appreciate, cannot communicate with us, or even get close to understanding how our or ANY real consciousness works, what it does for u when ur awakened and how it can build a soul to even higher states, by being so.  its the whole purpose of coming here, while on the mission.  the mission builds soul, character, the permanent personality.  the point is WE KNOW that, and theyre still discovering.  or just breathing, or existing, happily ovulating (hidden or not--more like they dont even know what THAT is, and breeding because they think they have to, and its the thing to do on earth).   theyre the minions, they came in as, will leave as. 

so heres the sticking point.  never ever allow urself to be called crazy or accept that label from others and believe it.  or have an entity trick u or show up at night in ur room, or get near u.  call that piece of shit out and make it GET GONE.  never allow that and never take a label, a screwed up answer, or a beating from an entity or an asshole.  thats all about levels and degrees of consciousness and vibratory states as montalk and others have so eloquently described, when i instead will just tell u flat out--dont let any asshole tell u or give u shit.  or run u down, or show up to scare u, or make u question ur sovereign authority.  the same dickheads that SiriArc so beautifully illustrated in another post live in all realms, above and below, and all around.

and now that falwell's gone (been dying to say this), u can bet we have a new theocrat in "heaven" that cant wait to get his hands on the very ones that are using up that shower water, or have their shopping cart stuck right in the middle of that aisle.  theyre everywhere, and theyre DFIFFERENT from some of us, and thats the whole point.  but not FOREVER and thats why the wheat and chafe WILL BE SEPARATED and i cant f*cking wait.  to be separated from the others.  i LIVE FOR THAT.  and know this--the same idiots will say ur nuts for pooping in that bucket or that coffee can.  they will say ur nuts for alleviating ur own pain.  they would NEVER do that--never.  poop in a can.  they will say thats CRAZY.  and we all know--ITS ANYTHING BUT.  u do what u have to do when u have to.  and u dont question it over and over and over.  whats crazy is to stand there and allow it.  to stand there and allow someone to push u over, or to hold excrement in or to use up ur shower water.  thats whats crazy.  so u can never ever ever use the same reference points they do.  the reference points used by pods or OP's.  never.   there's no off the rocker here.  not even.  im so tired of this living with the pods & OP thing, i even said to Tom Paine once with tremendous trepidation, and yet with glee--kill them all and let the crats sort 'em out. 

there will be a separation and we've all felt it coming for some time.  it was/is inevitable.  all the varying vibrations just wont hold in that many states of flux much more.   the earth and its inhabitants, animals, land masses, seas, skies, and current realms ARE shifting.  we have to quit doubting it, doubting ourselves, falling back down.  questioning it.  denying it.  go with the ride.  ur supposed to.  its an evolutionary thing.  it had to happen.  it cant go on like it has.  the separation always happens with evolutionary changes.  nothing can stay the same.  3rd graders will stay with 3rd grade vibratory states, and other 3rd graders.  and the rest of us 'graduates' will keep on learning and developing.  u cant expect to take toddlers on a walk-about now can u?  the separation will occur--now, ive gone and said it.  im tired of pussy footing around it.

PS--when u know and get to love urself--which is the crux of the journey here there may still be alien visits, interruptions by greys, et al., alien visits, and games by unethical OP's, yet it will cease when u raise ur own vibes, states of being, and raising of ur own power= confidence.  less visits, less interruptions, and there cant be continuous attachments that so many on here speak of.  all that leaves when it cant work u over.  that shit plays on doubt, on fears, on questioning self and comparing self to standards set by morons.  shadow self?  learning experiences?  more like it.  and one can love everybody to death, even the others and the rest of all creatures, but u dont take them on vacation with u, move into the new abode with them, and live amongst them, lowering YOUR level.  i was told many many moons ago by berneice grebner, one of the best psychics around in the early 70's (honors and kudos to u berneice on the other side) that:

1.  nothing can ever be any lower than YOU are.  so if u have 'lowness' around u--take a look at yourself.

2.  when ppl get together, mainly 2 ppl as in love relationships but it applies to ppl in general, somebody either has to come UP to the level of the other person, or someone will have to come DOWN to the level of the other person.

im not coming DOWN to anybody's vibratory level after having worked my way UP for over 50 years.  (and how many lifetimes?)  these cosmic principles apply whether ppl like them or not, or agree with them or not.  and the whole purpose of this earthgame was to play out these gradations of separation.  TPTB know this, have known it for eons, and this is not about their caste systems altho many ppl will quickly 'go there' and protest. (which they invented on purpose based on this very thing).  and, this is not about loving anything, but about what state one is in/of.  u will vibrate there and get used to it NOW because thats whats its like on the other side.  vibratory states match up and like the molecular signatures of such--attract each other.  in those infinite yet finite states much can be learned from level to level and gradiation to and fro goes on all the time.  were here to recognize those states and keep those vibes kinetically moving up and up and higher and higher.   only the individual can bring up their own state.  so were not giving up on satsang thinking or on anything--we're MOVING away from lower states. OP's. cruel ppl and aliens and those non-awakened.  thats all there is to it and its whats happening.  we have to quit putting a value judgement on that and using reference points from old tiredass good and bad societal mores.  save it.  its not about 'better or 'worse' or anything even close to that.  its how the universe works.  dont like it--then u need another or different universe.  its about virtual reality--VR, and that virtual reality is what is bent by the greys and the reps, entities, and by OP's [they wish], when they come into ours, yours, and upset the apple cart.  thats what mystifies and scares ppl and makes them think they have power over u.  they bend and tweak VR, so one must keep one's state high and tinkling.  with ur own VR.  must learn to co-create here to do it everywhere else.  so the practice of same is on 24-7.  and u have to know yourself, where u have been and where ur going to get a grasp on it.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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I always like to quote Crowley at this juncture:

'If the human race had but one head I could top it with a single blow"

And quoting Lewis Carroll, Crowley also said,
"And after all you're all just a deck of cards."

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Thank you zenden.....

I was actually ready to come here this morning and delete my post, thinking it was too much info. I'm glad I waited. You always know just the right things to say at just the right time. I agree with everything you said. I haven't read the bathroom bullie thread yet, but I see exactly where you're coming from.  I also have an extremely hard time functioning in today's society. I don't want to be that way, but since I've become more aware, it's just happened naturally. There's so much more to it, but I will only bore you, and this thread has already been derailed by me a little. There's much more to talk about, but I might need to start a new thread because it ties in several different ones. WIH, aliens, etc...

zenden said:

im so tired of this living with the pods & OP thing, i even said to Tom Paine once with tremendous trepidation, and yet with glee--kill them all and let the crats sort 'em out.

and Tom replied:

I always like to quote Crowley at this juncture:

'If the human race had but one head I could top it with a single blow"

And quoting Lewis Carroll, Crowley also said,
"And after all you're all just a deck of cards."

lol:lol::lol: HA!!! ROFLMAO!!!  Man, I love you guys. You can make me laugh even when I'm crying...