Re: Pope is warned of a green Antichrist

Je m'excuse, j'ai effectivement inversé la devise manichéenne : Le mal est un bien qui n'est pas à sa place.
Désolé, mais à force d'étudier le mal, j'inverse le bien en mal...
Je suis heureux qu'on ait bien voulu traduire mon article pour que les anglophones y aient accès. J'aimerais bien aussi que quelqu'un me traduise les votres en français. wink 

La question reste ouverte pour le pape actuel. S'il est bien le pape "de gloriae olivae" (de la gloire de l'Olivier), certains hésitent sur le fait de savoir s'il est le dernier ou l'avant-dernier pape. Car la prophétie de Saint Malachie laisse planer le doute. Le fait qu'il soit allemand est une attaque délibérée contre la mission de l'Allemagne et de l'Europe du centre et donc de l'anthroposophie.

Je suis très heureux de parler avec des gens du continent américain qui sont au plus près des forces du double (Ahriman) et qui peuvent ressentir de ce fait une certaine ambiance quant à son incarnation.

Cordialement

innatalité (mot luciférien dont Ahriman a horreur, car il signifie : qui n'est pas né, donc quelqu'un qui existe avant de s'incarner, ce qui s'oppose au concept d'immortalité ahrimanien. Steiner disait d'ailleurs que le mot innatalité ne se trouvait pas dans le dictionnaire, ce qui montre le degré d'ahrimanisation de notre société.

A tous ceux qui s'enfoncent dans le désespoir : "le pendule prend de la force en descendant".

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In our modern culture, people talk a lot about immortality, but we never talk about "un-natality"!

We believe the soul and the self continue to exist beyond death, but we never talk about the pre-existence of the self and the soul before birth!

Logically, if we believe in immortality, we should also believe in un-natality (the self is not born at birth, just as much as the self does not die at death)

The fact that not a single dictionnary presents this concept is an indication of how deeply "ahrimanic" (materialistic, "denial of the spiritual") our culture has become.


Thanks for this reminder Innatalite.

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The discovery of the identity of Antichrist is of more than academic importance to everyone.    Who is Antichrist and where will Antichrist be enthroned?   Antichrist is enthroned in every human heart.   Antichrist  a state of consciousness.   It is the psuedo- self enthroned in the place where Christ , the real Self, should reign within every human heart.  This antichrist is gross [we've all seen it] and it is very subtle too.  It is often mistaken for Christ [the real me] and so it is indeed the "great deciever" of all humanity because to some extent we are all self- decieved.   Generally we have failed to identify antichrist for what it is.  We've worshipped the pseudo-self and allowed it free reign in the "temple" of self.   Antichrist is ensconced within us, ruling the world of every individual.  It is embraced, adored , fussed over, fawned apon, self- justified and worshipped like an idol.  It is the "idol" and "false god" which the 2nd / 3rd commandments state "thou shalt not have before ME" [ ME= the inner God Self.]   To varying degrees, we have enthroned a false self in place of the real self within ourselves even though we are 'commanded' to deconstruct it.  Therefore we must know the difference between Christ and Anti- christ within.

Because of our own love of antichrist [the justification of the lower- ego] and our consequent spiritual blindness someone always appears externally in the role of "Antichrist".   They successfully decieve people because the masses are blinded by their own unreal self which everyone believes is real.   So when the enemy appears [ usually as an "angel of light] to pander to their perceptions most people get played like violins.     

No matter what you call it, "antichrist" has reigned in the human heart long before Jesus spoke of it.   Christ is an inner spiritual state of consciousness.   Antichrist is a lower state of consciousness [ not a person] which the masses of humanity have long entertained in themselves.  The Christ 'drama' and the terms in which the "real self" and "unreal self" were framed by Jesus [ ie. Christ vs Anti-christ] refers to an ancient battle which has raged within the soul of each person for ages before Jesus appeared in Palestine.   

If we can't identify who really is Christ [the higher Self] and who is the Anti-christ [ the lower- self] we cannot sacrifice and surrender the elements of the lower- self into the inner flame of the Christ spirit.  If the pseudo- self is not transmuted we may yet identify antichrist in the "other" person but we will remain blind to it in ourselves.  If we do remain blind to the inner enemy...  the"beam in our own eye" [ as Jesus termed our spiritual blindness] then we may remain powerless to identify and defeat those who enthrone themselves as the saviours of humanity in every area of life..... politics, business,  distoted versions of religion, environmentalism  etc.

Still, it won't surprise me either if TPTB stage a modern drama of biblical proportions with one of their "best" in the spotlight at center stage.   We have always had this used against us in different guises and framed in different terms throughout all history.  TPTB have had great 'success' in preparing the ground with enough distortions [of what Christ really means] that the people could swallow their "man" of the moment.   Anything is possible from here on in.

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Hi nexus !
I would like th thank you for your message.
What is the most important, is to identify Christ and Antichrist in me. The antichrist who will come is the antichrists in the hearts of people. I can say I study very much the "evil" and sometimes I forget the "good".

I think it is important to say how we can make stronger the Christ in us. I know that the knowledge of evil is a necessary thing to understand better Christ. But there are exercices to become stronger and prepare us to receive Christ or make him grow up.
Steiner talks about the 6 exercices to make stronger our thought, feeling and will. I think it is a good way. The reading of his book "Philosophy of freedom" is a good way too to understand the spiritual before to have spiritual perceptions.

I have made this experience : I have practised this exercices and after a while, I give up. That shows how Antichrist Works in me. I know what I must do, but my will is too weak. Steiner says to do the 6 exercices each day, that s why it is very difficult, cause if we stop one day, the effects go away... So Steiner says we must practice not to have results but because we love this exercices, and the effects can be there but we dont see them cause we wait an other effect.

If other persons here know how to prepare themselves for Christ in them, I will be happy.


"Je suis avec vous jusqu'à la fin des temps"

Innatalité

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"Je suis avec vous jusqu'à la fin des temps"

"I am with you until the End of Time"

Which means Christ is right here with us! He has united himself with the Earth and He is no longer to be found in the Sun sphere, from where he came from.

His Deed, with our hard work, in Love, will dissolve the Earth, in the future, as the Earth and Man will become completely spiritualised. Mineral matter will be dissolved (ash to ash, dust to dust) back to chaos, but the Body of Man and Earth will be spiritualised, this is the resurrection body (of the End of Time). Christ brought all the forces needed for this, but without our Love, Earth will not accomplish its mission.

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Re: Pope is warned of a green Antichrist

Pope warned of Green antichrist.

That was in the beginning of 2007.

Yesterday, oct 11 2007, Al Gore won the Peace Nobel Price.

Do the Maths.

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Thanks Druid... funny I was thinking about this when I heard about that peace prize.

There is definately a major agenda behind this.

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Am I the only one who feels that it's just like in Revelation of John?


The False Prophet and the world Government of the Beast (the UN) acclaimed as Ambassadors of World Peace...

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If the Pope said that then he must know [and be participating in] the plot and playing his part in setting up the framework.   True Druid... He identifies the general framework [a "green anti- christ"] and then leaves others  to fill in the blanks.  Then, co-incidently  that other great bastion of intellectual freedom and spiritual purity, the Nobel commities, take their turn in seeding the future.   Those commities are obviously wonderful scientists and fully dedicated to the truth about global warming.  The archetype of the "Great Whore" comes to mind in all of this.  The great whore is a major element of the lower- nature in every person and it is an archetype which always plays it's role in every betrayal of the light in self or in the world order..... new or old.... it's always been there... within and without. 

That element of lower- selfhood is like a prostitute.   It is a state of consciousness which has no fidelity to the spiritual ONE within and goes a whoring after "other" gods which are preferred to the ONE God within.   ie.... ego, pride of position, research grants tied to false outcomes, and all of the other 'prizes' which the false hierarchy can bestow on anyone who is with the program.

The 'generic' Satan says:
"Bow down and worship me [the lower- self and the false hierarchy] and i will give you the world"

Whoever pays the most [prestige, money, worldly power] is the master of the "great whore".   Every false concept is god to the "great whore."  For the Nobel commities, as for so many others depending on the false hierarchy instead of themselves for personal empowerment, the accouterments of name, fame, position, "correctness" and pats on the head are far better currency than truth.  That is the "great whore" defined and to some extent it resides in everyone.  That is why we see it's manifestation everywhere and why we can identity it in any human drama... including the current "end times" set up.   

DITTO for the "false prophet".[that state of consciousness which projects evil outcomes onto the screen of life]
 
DITTO for the"beast".[that state of consciousness that is the conglomerate animality in everyman and woman]
   
DITTO for the "anti- christ"..[that state of consciousness, subtle and gross, which is antithetical to inner Christ]


Of couse these states of consciousness are just symbolic divisions defining the one force of evil resident in everyone and which opposes the will of the higher- Self.   This symbolic criminal line- up defines a state of consciousness which must be overcome within ourselves if we are going to turn the tables on the control systems of this world.   The consciousness of these archetypes is what makes us spiritually blind [to that lower vibration within ourselves] and therefore vulnerable to the "anti- christ,  the "beast",  the "false prophet" and the "great whore" when it appears externally in other people, especially in representatives of the false hierarchy and in the roles they play in their war against us.  That evil state of consciousness has always appeared throughout history,  long before it was defined in 'biblical' terms by Jesus.  But now that it has been so defined in the 'Book of Revelation' it makes it possible for the false hierarchy to define their contemporary control system in those terms too... although essentially nothing much has really changed.... except some of the terminology of the archetypes.   ie.  Now they can oppose the true Christ [in ourselves and in Jesus] by appearing as "christ" and "anti-christ" in their modern role.

While the false hierarchy have enjoyed their age old game of appearing as both "savior" in every field of human endeavour and as "anti- christ" opposing every field of human endeavour,  they now openly revel in every form of overt satanic opposition to the light... in music, movies, culture generally, economics, politics, religion and finance.   They enjoy the chessboard and the opportunities it offers for betrayal and the humiliation of their targets and subjects. 

But it's really no different at all, in substance, to Stalin's Russia, or Kim Jong -il's North Korea, or Japan's once emperor [and many more of ancient history's recorded and unrecorded false 'gods'] where almost everyone is forced into a cult of maniacal worship of a state god.  This form of maniacal religious fervor has been cultivated in the dumb, blind masses to sustain the false god's in those examples.  Sometimes we've been presented with a "state' god  [Russia] and sometimes a 'priest' god [ medieval Popes controlling the state] or a mixture of both [Japan's old emporer].  The themes are similar but the control is the same.  We have the same thing apparantly shaping up today...   Notwithstanding it may be abandoned [if it doesn't work out] in favour of a more garden variety dictatorship without the biblical hullabaloo.  But it's sure starting to appear like these fallen ones might literally publically conform to those archetypes of consciousness [ie. christ and anti- christ] defined by Jesus in his dictation to John in the Book of Revelation.   They may be doing so in order to revel the more in their betrayal of the souls of light and in their hatred of the inner christ and of that great representative of the Christ Spirit... Jesus.   That is why they oppose his word and his mission... they must have an enemy.... Just like the US military/ industrial complex must have an enemy only this is not one of their own evil creation.  It is their very spiritual Creator and his Christ.   Jesus appeared ~2000 yrs ago to begin the countdown [for their judgement] and they have replied .........

.........   "bring it on. Through our control of media, music, pop culture, finance, science, religion and politics we will take down as many souls of light as we can into a death culture which worships the death consciousness.  We will graft our rebellious appetites into them.  We will offer them the fruit of our knowlege [of the depravity of duality consciousness].... deeper and deeper they will fall into it not knowing what they have lost.  In the beginning we told them they will NOT surely die.  And in the end we tell them the same.   And, gullible fools that they are, our evil will live on in them [by proxy] after we're gone"

So what makes the whole thing different at this time is that a great cycle has turned and a great opportunity is being given to the earth and her people.  Jesus' appearance marked the beginning of the end of "business as usual" on this planet.  He really is the kingpin in this plan and in the opportunity the plan presents to every soul assigned to this planet, including the darkest of men.  The time has come to remove the worst of the worst of souls who've embodied on earth for ages.  But a final opportunity is being given to them to bend the knee to their inner [deeply buried] spiritual Self [christ] and to bend the knee and honor the same christ in their fellow man.  They don't appear to be taking this opportunity.

After long cycles of opportunity the choice is now ultimate for many on this earth.   Many will go down cursing the AllGod of Light and the souls of light.  They will go out with a bang if they can.  Many will be removed and without their malignant inflence, this earth and her people [even relative babes in their understanding of spiritual truth] will have a much better opportunity to more quickly grow in the fullness of Spiritual Selfhood.  This crucial chapter in this historical drama is being framed by Jesus and the Spiritual Hosts in clear terms so that those reprobates of the false hierarchy cannot mistake the identity of who they persecute. 

They cannot claim ignorance asking:  "where is God and where is his Christ?"

Jesus told them [and us] :
                                         
                 "Whatsoever ye have done to the least of these my brethren ye have done it to me"
                  [because "I" the christ consciousness AM within ALL]
                                         
                  "And ALL shall know ME  [the inner- christ] from the least to the greatest."
                                                         [when society is founded again upon spiritual principles]

This is why we may yet see the false hierarchy 'enjoying' the ultimate and [for them final] betrayal of people by willingly [ab]using the biblical archetypes in their last role on the stage of life.   They appear to 'love' the fact that they can appear with both sides of their face exposed to the world.  They 'love' it so much because people accept them and defend them in their roles as being either helpfull or at least harmless.  .... ie...

        ..." Judas Priest are a great band... all the satanic role playing is just harmless fun" ...
or...
      .... "Jimmy Bakker is a great preacher... he told me everything i need to know to get to heaven."

Still,  anti- christ may be green.  At least one of the faces of the hydra headed beast may be just so.  The whole 'green' industry was initiated and it's agenda distorted by TPTB so for them it is a great iron to have in the fire and can be seamlessly woven into their end game.   Their end game, not ours.

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We must not fall into their traps, evil geniuses have clever tricks to seduce the masses.

They even promote global governance (world government) in new age circles, not only in biblical fanatic circles.

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Didn't the 3rd film of the Omen trilogy feature the antichrist figure as a US politician communicating to the youth of the world through TV and/or movies about the environmental crisis?