ok then. some fantastic questions and remarks. i agree firstly with TP there. OVERALL what he said. and that goes with what Z3 just said too. i have to agree and am on that wagon too, with the both of them. as the final statement here would be then--yes, at least i know more than i did. and that will help me/us stay AWARE and on it at crossover, shift, death time, all that and whatever else could sneak in==that changes us and this dimension 3D into any other. thats the crux of the matter. all the dimensions and planes of existence. thats the THING to be perceived and as Z3 said, hard to do in or with 3D limited perception. yet EXACTLY as both say, i personally feel we do know more, feel more and just simply know (or remember if u will...) that we aint gonna be riding the same wave as others, unbeknownst "stuff" happening to them. and we already are prob free from a reincarnational state just by awareness and then ok then ill use the term--consciously averting it.
now, i have truly considered alike what Z3 says about having the very opposite possibility happen, that by thwarting going to the light, or similar to that vein, that we may be tricking ourselves OUT of a good or needed necessary experience. so that we go right into a trap rather than avoiding one. oh yes, consider that, that in all the energy and learning spent to avoid and reject tricks and traps, all the while considering the ungodly amount of lies and deception that abounds wherein almost everything has been programming (so what in the hell is left and sacred then, man? god..nothing?) that theres a strong poasibility just in numbers with happenstance randomness that were screwed anyway--right into enemy camp.
about the only thing then i can say on this is ultimately==its all about what DIMENSIONAL state is going to occur for us that we will be drawn to or go to in. lots of prepositions there, i realize. its an "in of thru to" thing. and all we know is that with death its a transition definitely from one kind of plane/ state/dimension (iTS all in THERE) to another. thats the bugaboo. whether thats 4-5 or so forth is the key and the dilemma and we know there are planes and subplanes and levels within that/those. were looking to find out or to research id say, what kind of EXISTENCE its gonna be. how it works 'there' and were trying to find out how to get where it is that we dont even know about. once again, we know what we DONT want. from what weve read, heard and garnered. we have few "facts" id venture to state. is death 4 or 5D? ive seen and heard both. the death thing seems to be very difft though than other transitory states. 4D does have alot of dead in it and it may be a hovering place and not a final type destination it sounds like. i have a severe need to say this though, which aligns with TP's statements, from leqarnign more and more about therocracy and the WIH material overall, and knowing how crap works in corporations and the bizness world and how deception is played out around here, i seriously would suppose--just supposition that indeed, the fake light is fake, imposed and interfered with likely and that WE DONT EVEN GET NEAR where we need to go or are supposed to go REALLY cause they have us circling to their wagons real quick and we cant proceed in the natural or if u will--noninterfered intended state. i really think this and that indeed the set up is such and really is such A SET UP that we dont get near where were really supposed to go or COULD go and we get stuck in their hamster wheel of reincarnation, not remembering and then reanimation. really. and that its such a NET just like with fishing that it is so pervasive, so persistent, so there, for so long that other natural or more shall i say less interfered with pathways to dimensions dont even get a chance to be examined. i feel it is horribly and likely possible that lockdown of that on this planet has been that f*cked with. i completely realize that this is so farfetched so incredible so against or contradictory to the damn progrqamming that it is unfathomable. but thats the very thing--the VERY thing we have come here to uncover or find about. and what a deal the uncovering gig has been. it would fit entirely with how i personally started out on this journey of discovery. its the total icing on the conspiracy cake. said that before. i believe they have pathways to other more beneficial dimensions and planes gatewayed OFF. because of the consciousness quotient of EVERYBODY else. and what has gone on before. that the 'state' of heaven exists and its a "state" alright. a goddamn nuther one run by -- a STATE RUN state--again, so we never get free run by the same kind of dweebs and here we go AGAIN gig. i feel its that possible and only with knowledge and awareness can one on death (which curiously is going to get all messed up in and WITH the shift thing at about the same time which is how i think ill escape it and planned to all along and knew it and came back this time to get a way out and show others the way OUT of getting caught in a DEATHTRAP) go to an different sidegate portal.
i say this just cause its review and synthesizing of the material we already have as i went back and studied and re-read the entire 21 pages soon to be 22 we have on this WIH thread, and it points to that. that by studying so much we at least know that there is the possibility of the old ways (now remember ALL the "old ways have to be eradicated, have to die" in this new earth possibility scenario and that means planes above and below and all around the earth as theyre caught up in the vibratory changes that r coming and affects will swing there too) finally shifting too. if death is an old gamut and the heaven setup swingsa with it, and theyre both an old notion, then it plays out that with the great shift--it too will be affected. and change and thats what im betting on. and ill even go as far as to say this==that by saying this and us knowing such that we actually DO change it and set up side portals and not lead others to the main gate mess, that it actually HAPPENS. thanks to us, and what we conjectured, studied, knew. what a perfect SWITCH set up. it happens during a realm border shift, with quantum physics, so voila. the timing the timing the timing. so this my friends is a way to not get fooled again.
PS what free said is accurate too and i found the very thing said last on that back on the old pages of the thread. that the gods cant die because then theyll remember and have to recapitulate and live thru it again by remembering it (their lives, their deeds, their existences with a more human type of recall with he associated real emotions) which is why they live in the created dimensional plane falsely and avoid it all and recycle us right to them for the energy exchange loosh. i know its pure scifi but the truth is way more bizarre than some 'realities' as its been said. the whole thing is incredible scifi. and my hunt for all about death lead me from it, to aliens, religion and myth, and to theocracy and back THRU EACH of the topics and back to death ultimately. and THIS. its been meant to be and i never woulda guessed it. never. which is why their existence where they are is false and fraudulent. they never face memories there but if was real and as natural planned then, and not interfered with then theyd not be sitting in loosh farms and blocking the way. its where theres some kind of magnetic and electric and all that ascension stuff polarity weve talked about before which attracts polarities to each other somehow gets in there and its a contrived prison camp altho is kinda 'nice'. since they do give u that for once so ur not totally all pissed right away rather and thinkin mutiny. but i do think u do wake up from the tricked out eternal sleep gig and go what the hell happened here? its where there are no memories==thats where they are and where we dont wanna go.
one more thing. heaven is somewhere out on the plane of sharon that thoth talks about which really exists. and is in space archives real nomenclature. and he warns of the dark brothers and their trapping angles in the emerald tablets. there are keys in there and that struck me knowing what we know.
GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"
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