War In Heaven (Page 19 of 24)

Barbara Hand Clow, Signet of Atlantis, War in Heaven Bypass, Volume Three of The Mind Chronicles Trilogy, Bear & Co. Publ., Santa Fe, NM, 1992, 193 pp.

"Like the initiated bards of old, I unfold my tale for you. Together, let us awaken to full planetary consciousness."

"With these words, and with humor, wisdom, and compassion, gifted teacher and storyteller Barbara Hand Clow leads us on an experiential journey through the ancient memories that flood her consciousness and in the process triggers those deep inside each of us.

"In this third book of The Mind Chronicles trilogy, we time-travel through the fourth and fifth dimensions, from Atlantis to the Minoan culture in Crete; scenes in a Paleolithic cave to initiatic sexual ceremonies at Avebury; the desert in the Holy Land with Isaiah to the secret inner temples of the pharoahs. Signet of Atlantis teaches us that our thoughts determine who we are and leads us to a realization about how to preserve our living relationship with the Earth."

Anyone come across this ? I love all her books that i've read ,M5.

well back on to show this after waiting prob too long to show it but will put it in here.  it crosses threads that resonate with the material, which flows thru, and connects.  from  http://www.afterlife101.com/  now, this has alot of the 'old' traditional views as we know it, as we know afterlife info from what we can get.  the old stuff is in here ad infinitum.  there are also contradictions.  but, there are a few ditties to ponder over and of course, the same cosmic stuff for reiteration and review.  a few days ago i had it down pretty good and shouldve posted then, but just goes to show ya, went off on a field trip with a friend and am posting now, days behind my thots.  i said i wouldnt do that again but have and once again, reveals own evolutionary process 3 steps behind again with self.  yessiree.  SOS.   

anyway, doing a tremendous amount of thinking and researching and synergizing, blending and merging to get a better hold or clue in key to what is coming and going on.  as a "synarchist".  anyway have had to realize that the theocrats dont control all of it.  just certain realms and planes and subplanes.  not sure if theyre ruling the plane of sharon or the halls of amenti or close by there.  so many realms and dimensions, and realms and dimensions and planes therein.  still makes me think we pass thru and can go on thru and up and over and around, for that matter.  but i think thoth warned about this and them in the emerald tablets.  when he talks of the "dark brothers" who i thot orig may be or were, the reps.  i still think that but need to do more work on that and am.  and so then why all the initiations?  aha.  to gain knowledge of awareness, courage, confidence.  the egyptians and about just about everybody else were way hot on that.  thoth said not to get caught in an angle with sharp cornered tightness, and sharpened points, that trap and entrap.  go in circles he said, over and over again.  it seemed he was talking of what to do and recognize on the passover/crossover for the soul, upon death.  (or possibly even from OBE which belljar had a good point on).  he warned about ANGLES.  this is a repeat thot, but important.  and for a fact--dark stuff does hide in corners so do not get cornered with few ways out.  the whole thing on angles again, from standard to metaphysical even symbolic meanings here.  and calling them 'brothers' got to me.  was he talking about our own human bros or space bros? since were all related and u know how monks call each other brothers.  religious bros up there in encampments.  our earth brothers that decided to go with crats and become them.  i see how our own ppl do this.  and all the sects that talk of brothers, and the meaning of that.  holds some clues.  and interestingly i read a quote yesterday from the templars that warned against taking in priests, monks, and doctors of science that looked and acted as brothers when indeed, after allowing them in they turncoated and fooled and betrayed... i thot hmmm on that.  i think its templar rule/doctrine #27, and thot very interesting because these guys were way into religiosity so may have turned into crats =highly likely. and knew certainly how to worship heavy and all that comes with that.  it also warned against letting them have or get in on any of THEIR secrets and not to tell them anything really secret that they had made conclusions on with their esoteric work.  it reminded me of what kyle said about the invisible college and not being able to 'tell it all' as in the plans they have or the directions theyre planning on going in to battle the crats. even afterlife info looks skewed sometimes, as in produced, or from?  u never know the tellers of it unless discerned resonation.  no wonder on that too.  somehow the side-picking is stimulated or starts down here for later.  or looks like it.

i also read yesterday briefly that the first wave of spiritual warriors that started realizing who they were in the 90's with the 2012 thing spurring it in literature (and prob happened before that) are in the "war" and know that.  and chose to be in it.  and came here for it.  and its all about energy, vibrations, etc, and levels. and consciousness and awareness, and awareness of awareness.  and yesterday on snoedel theres a big article on how that energetic vibratory state is developed, displayed, by thots, acts, and how it joins with consciousness to biologically maintain within the human.  i cant but help to think that its a new human that understands this and can do it and thats whats meant by the new human.  the timing made it so with the increased ability to find out esoteric facts and theories and put them in motion thanks to better communication with the net and the ability to view ancient and new works by others and the mystery schools which were NOT all bad or evil.  i agree with john lasch on that.  the important point i think is that its possible to be nonaware on crossover and get trapped and thats how it works.  so must stay aware and conscious at all times so as to avoid.  i think the crats have a huge territorial manipulation going on, but not all of it.  and that just knowing there are crats may be a key in and of itself.  and id one thinks or believes there are crats then they will encounter crats.  i am aware of this and worry yet?  still dont know how to avoid or fight it in detail but hope with all were learning here, we will know and be able to recognize it, when the time comes.  if and when.  whats so important overall tho is NOT TO HAVE BLIND FAITH.  that the savior or somebody powerful will save and u dont have to do anything at all, the blood of christ has redeemed man.  and all of that.  thats the bugaboo.  so easy to see that and how that works.  which is why the idea of crats follows.  that hooks up.  i really dont know if real but i think its real and would add up.  and thats what makes me so damn mad at the pods , that complete insistence on blind faith/doctrine.  thats how these camps of theocracy get started and i think the gods saw that opportunity and fed on it.  somehow that got sponsored with that galactic quarantine or as some say -- sophia's mistakes when she got fooled.  dunno who or what fooled her but theres the beginning of deception right there somehow and its kept itself going.  as some sort of massive deception above and below that feeds itself from it.  this may be the biggest one of all and its threaded thru life on earth.  and earth ppl's afterlife.  i havent read that alien afterlife does this but it might but i havent seen it.  they seem to live for many years beyond human causal lifetime and some say thousands for reps and so forth.  so theres a big dichotomy there and this theocratic deal seems to mainly be related to human afterlife.  which would figure.  to entrap so as not to be able to slip thru to higher and better realms if not aware.  this site talks a little on that but its confusing about alien afterlife but this work says theyre blended in, with humans and since all is vibratory, theyre around in 'heaven' too.  seems to me with WIH its more like brothers doing it to brothers to keep that human side of things going, which in turn, leads to slow or incomplete ascension and no wonder.  if ur trapped and cant grow or develop up and out ur not going to evolutionize. esp in a big group and thats why anger at the pods, because that lack of awareness makes it bad for everybody else as does the ability to gain awareness makes it better for everybody else.  having blind faith generation after generation is the sticking point.  esp at death.  this leads to bigger and more mighty theocratic camps.  thats where the trouble is.  and why so important to break out of that blindness.  real impatience with that and when im really mad about it, thats what i think of--how the sleeping make it worse and make it more possible to trap the rest of us. and the ones after us.  its like thanks to that, it brings the rest down.  thats why im mad about it.  wanting to scream to them to wake up and get with it.  i used to talk about these matters at parties and spread it all over to those with ears to hear and eyes to see but now i dont anymore.  it seems ok sometimes but cant do it like i used to.  i saw my energy dissipating too much with it and the feelings of hopelessness with it.  so bred in.  i started to give up and when they sobered up theyd forget it all anyway or not apply it so i tired out on it and decided to keep the big mouth shut and work on my own stuff more quietly and i at first thot i would build an army of rebels to fight the illuminati, then the reps, then the crats.  i backed way down on it and i certainly cant go around and do this WIH thing like i did with with the first 2. i just decided to live my own words and be rather than trying to convince.  a few times i got real far but bringing others up to speed gets so tangential some get lost quick and it does go all over so satsang i thot would be better.  too hard to get it all in there with so much history involved, and too many belief systems to throw one off, so better to just be and let be on this and stay compassionate despite being pissed.  and thats where it has to be pure righteous love for the fellow man and wanting things to be better rather than rabble-rousing them.  at one time i thot i could help them make the breakthrough as kyle calls it but i see now thats not gonna work. and mostly since its at parties, where there are crowds of ppl wanting to have fun, and willing to stretch out there a bit they merely see it as entertainment.  so not blending in by any means, which would be impossible but as starling says--just stay true to self, keep calm and try to enjoy PUL with fellow man while imbibing in fellowship.  then i get all in love with fellow man again and then try to bring it all up and have to stop myself.  its a fight to want to protect them by arming them with info to try and get them to see so they can do something about this thing coming, this death scenario that will happen no matter what, because one truly loves them, as fellow humans so much, but now i just say skip it, try to shut up, be merry and enjoy human companionship.  a big party is coming up on memorial day so im priming myself now to stay quiet. which is hard to do with a big mouth.  ive been wanting to say this for such a long time.  that i truly love ppl and would die for humanity on one hand, esp my patients which could be anybody, but as u have seen repeatedly i go back and forth with that over and over and over.  and i realized the other day, thats whats this has been about.  too.   where this healing thing i do for a living is changing and the brunt force of it is leaving me.  its evolutionized and let up quite a bit.  that its not necessary for that like it was.  and i got that from being on here and trying to see into that this last 2 yrs.  taking the responsibility for that with them about killed me but i have let go of that and now am much calmer on it.  moving away and leaving them to their own devices.  get better with what i prescribe for them (personalized recipes which involve all sorts of things seen and unseen).  they can stay sick or get better and theyre on their own.

i also read yesterday that making decisions makes a space of energy for a human and works to evolutionize it, makes a space for possibilities which opens up horizons and builds and builds.   maybe this is whats meant by taking a stand.  and can apply to ppl on here that want to get awasy from crappy roommates, bathroom bullies, bad sitch's.  have to make a decision on it and it will evolutionize you.  anyway there are lots recaps in here with a few new tidbits and much stuff contradicts and is messy yet tells a story.  but we have to realize that once again, its coming from channeled sources and those channels see it as they want to, which could be skewed and not the total 'truth'.  and what i orig intended to do  here didnt work out at all, and the net has shut me off today at least twice,  anyway u can go and read up and see.  what i wanted to show was about touch and ego but i got off on a tangent again and started quoting a bunch of stuff.  so go and look around.  and nowhere in here at all does this source and its accomp sources say squat about crats.  but theres other baby and bathwater info in here so here goes:

and this which is scary and may have some meaning in direct contradiction sorta--"A private form of consciousness between spirits exists through touch."  uh oh--is that a clue?  looks like it backs up WIH, once oner allows that touch there may be trouble.  private communication eh?  oh i bet.  a good tidbit out of tons of stuff on this site.

that explains low vibe ppl. and why.

http://www.afterlife101.com/Chapter7.html  this chapter talks of the earth changes and mentions the 3 days again.

and this which is contradictory from chapt 8 "There is not a silver cord or some other physical attachment means between the soul and the body which is severed at the moment of death and departure of the spirit soul."  Ok  ?

"Deaths are generally "pre-programmed" except under circumstances where an energy crosses or intersects with an individual's energy to make death happen at a time that was not originally programmed."  makes u wonder.

"The spirit is the true essence, the true energy of who you are. The soul is like the connection between your spirit and your humanness. And your soul is with you in your human body, together with your spirit, and when you depart from your human body your soul moves into your spirit and that soul remains with your spirit." confusing binary doctrine stuff.

"The soul of each incarnation carries the energy of every incarnation but is not necessarily predominant in the soul as it attaches to a new incarnation. For each incarnation has its own energy, its own personality, its own ego and that's what forms in the soul to help connect to the spirit of your humanness. Many times you have things that are happening to you in your current life which you have no understanding for why it is happening, and it can be a deep-seated carryover from a past life which could go back for many past lives."  ive often thot this.

"The higher self is your spirit that continues to live through all three-dimensional lifetimes and is always there."

"Those who cross over with a lack of inner self love move into a place where they are tenderly helped to open up to seeing what lesson on earth this time that did not get completed. This is true even for an individual who was a very good, loving, giving, compassionate person on earth in actions and words in their contribution to human life. And they are gently taught to see that strong lesson of self love that they did not come to know and understand in this lifetime."

the importance of that and not to be confused with ego which too. is only a part of self.  i dont think its essential to go crazy on that.  but one can see that each ego is attached to a personality they say and u cant get rid of all of it or any of it but it looks like it fades away in predominance and importance as incarnations go. 

"Once a human crosses over they no longer carry that low energy level of mental or physical or emotional attachment with them, or human disforming attachment, with them into the spirit world."  good to know those with attachment probs are free at death from such.  finally i guess one could say.

"The essence of a spirit can move from one place to another. The actual spirit itself does not move from place to place but exists in one place. It can have observations in several different places at one time."   hmmmm

"Heaven can be visualized as a gigantic sphere with an energy field, vibrations of energy, and coming from it could be called sunbeams, lifelines that connect to the planets where beings live. Heaven has no locational relationship whatsoever to any planets."

"The number of spirit souls that live in heaven is very large, including those that have come from many other universes."

"The first and most important lesson for every spirit that comes to earth is for it to learn its own spiritual lessons and to have a knowing of the individual it is and also to help others to understand their inner beings as well. This effort is more important than acting in a way which would help humans generally to progress in their earthly existence."  ill drink to that.  number 1 and my most important task and thats about it.  i keep reading about self all over the place these days and its a big theme that looks predominant lately and i know why.  it is really big and very important.

"Those individuals who originated from a world other than earth are very highly evolved beings and often find themselves very confused as earth beings but have made that choice to bring that wisdom, that knowledge and the ability to communicate other existences to earth in one way or another, to help the earth's spiritual evolution become so much more powerful than what it currently is."  theres the wanderers and i read the job of the mortal soul is to be a wanderer.  i think those that are, and i consider myself to be one, or some sort of scribe, ex-monk too who knew how to read and write when others were kept from it like they did in the old days which was a terrible crime perpetrated.  should be totally proud of being a wanderer.  scout that goes out and looks around, observes and takes notes and saves them in some sort of repository.

"Earthlings are not the least evolved inhabitants compared with people who inhabit other planets. Though you have a long way to go there are other beings at other places who are at much lower consciousness and very three-dimensional in their consciousness. These people can be very dangerous if they would choose to come to your earth world."  oh hell.

"There appears to be children who come into this earth, those who you would say were bad seeds, who are often spirits who made the wrong choice in coming to earth in the time they reincarnated. They are oftentimes children who are born into families of extreme distress, extreme anger, and to use your earth words, extreme dysfunctional environment."
we figured that.

"Fear is generally the motivating factor for all negative acts that you see upon your earth. It is all based on fear of one form or another, fear of not being accepted, fear of not being good enough, fear of being eliminated. Fear is the biggest contributor to the dark side of mankind, followed by anger. Those are the two largest reasons."  i know im in trouble here.  talks with the self all the time, but who im really pissed at are those that kept ppl from reading and writing and kept insisting on cloning and keeping medical info close at hand so humans couldnt realize they even ovulate or how the body works without having to go to an interceder=physician but which really means teacher, but actually is just another priest and u know ll about them and they keep reincarnating in the same powerful groups that hold medical info close to their chests.  and make u pay for it.  i despise that and i work in that industry and watch that all day long but read on.   

"In many of your countries in your world where there is continuous strife and struggle, where there is much anger, where there is a great underdevelopment of all sorts--in those worlds these are spirits who are still immature and young spirits, coming to earth learning earth's lessons from nursery school and kindergarten."  theres where terrorists et al come in.  toddlers learning the hard way.  "Backward earth cultures are generally made up of two things. They could possibly be young, immature spirits, or they could be spirits who continuously return to earth to stay at that level and have no desire to move into higher consciousness levels."  and all these cultures live together, altho "backward cultures" are big big on family and loving family members keeping connected.  good or not so good?  does this have anything to do with lower chances for faster evolvement?  looks like it possibly.  since that kind of stuff looks hive to me and may keep individuals from being individuals within its own theocracy.  the ties are so strong the ind never moves up & away.

"During astral travel one could encounter energies, for there are many energies in the astral plane, varying from those with very high spiritual consciousness to those of far, far less spiritual consciousness. You can encounter any of these energies and unless you are well prepared and have a complete understanding of how to protect yourself these can have emotional as well as physical effects upon your life at your return to your three-dimensional life."  which is why i dont do it.  i used to in other lives so i know better now and apparently i cant remember much on that but am willing to fight a crat.  bizarre.  and think i know how.  now, thats weird.  archetypal and call it big ego to go with it.  i need it tho, still.

"No matter where an individual has been upon earth, no matter what events have taken place, there is always a residual energy that is left at that time and place of that individual. It's like walking and leaving your shadow there, in a way."  leaving shadow stuff all over.  and ive gotten weird on that and even take fingernail parts and hair with me to throw away or dissolve at home.  old witch memories and we talked on that a little on a diift thread the other day.

"Everyone has the ability to be a healer. Not everyone is willing to take the responsibility of being healed, though. Please know it is not the healer that is doing the healing. It is the person's responsibility who has come to the healer to be healed. Healing should ask for the highest good of that individual, which might not be what we see." i really get that now and am pooped from it, or was.  but better now. i get that, and consider myself to be healing from doing healing. SOB.

found it--"Each soul has a unique immortal character. When conjoined with a human brain, this ego character is melded with the emotional temperament, or human ego, of that body to produce a single but temporary personality for one lifetime. This is what is meant by the duality of our mind."

ok enough and really no connection to WIH pretty much.  i realize we have an afterlife thread but i put alot of crap in here so i put this here, sorry but it even had seeds about 'bad seeds' in it and its all over with connections.

"The patriarchs, god-kings, priests, generals, and other members of the aristocracy which ruled Man before the Deluge and after as well, were also part saurian. They displayed certain characteristics which set them apart from ordinary people - large patches of scaly skin referred to as "the badge of priesthood," and probably had horns and chin whiskers."  which the gm had and i inherited some of.

from boulay--old saurian info. " The Rephaim or warrior gods, the descendants of the antediluvian Nefilim, who protected the Middle East later, were large and fearsome warriors and probably exhibited many of the characteristics of their forebears. As they intermarried with humans, the saurian traits diminished, although they seem to have retained their huge size."  http://www.slowmotiondoomsday.com/boulay18e.html

cant find the exact page i found on the priesthood when studying reps yrs ago but...and traced the bloodlines back to tubal-cain.  supposed to be amark of jealousy of humjans.  are the reps jealous of humans?  i have to still work on that and get to the bottom of it.  not good there either but found other bloodline crosses that were of the desposyni.

if dutch reads this and knows of that forum and could tell me i could look up the old forum that the rep breeder woman wrote on using the wayback machine.  id sure appreciate it.

and the intertwined snakes and all the symbolism.  have it on me to keep me focused and not with the center pole.  the assoc with snakes.  sign.  of serpent and not with the bad rep the PTB put on it.  symbolizes much more.  sheds itself all the time too.  new skin.  new human.  onion layers that reveal themselves from within self.  shed old stuff be ready for new.  and our new guy from romania would have to read for years on rep stuff. and how all that intertwines, literally.

ok im done for a little while now.  talk about fighting vs accepting the dark side of self and fighting inner turmoil battles, one's own spiritual battles, and accepting all of it and going in deeper for answers, cause and effect.  theres alot ive wanted to say on this and no grief over it that i know of, only merging it and on recon with it.  it goes deep but doesnt feel bad or even close to it.  all feels as has been necessary.  and i just got knocked off here again for the 4th time and its 4:44PM.  and wanted to say many pastlives were centered on info gathering, in libraries of some sort and always scholarly hunts asnd around books and ancient secrets and materials.  scribe stuff.  and used to love heiroglyphics which as u know means pics of the priests.  beware of the priests and was one for many lives and find myself practically preaching all the time and sound like one on a soapbox, but this time against organized religion the opiate of the masses.

PS--on the hair.  when i got the full head of hair dreads, i QUIT dreading looking in the mirror.  hows that for a synch.  instead of always looking quickly and with disappointment, and then sadly looking away, everything changed and i got way better on accepting myself.  stupid as it sounds, i began to look like an archetype and i felt better almost instantly.  with a full head i finally feel balanced and secure.  anything to do with image?  as projected the way the self wants to look instead of another image as expected by the PTB world/societal expectation and then finally listening to self and doing what i had always wanted to--live a fantasy with the start of it being the hair.  could never grow it out all wild as i kept cutting it to tame it.  so i had to wait til i was out of the mainstream, off the grid way more than ever, away from the matrix where i didnt go to a sickening job or school everyday to get er done, and not have to hear about it.  and deal with that every 2 seconds.  god, get over it, its HAIR.  but ppl still stare and drive me nuts on it when im tired of defending it, but its there in some sort of samsonite glory.  cutting it off and having very short or little or none is so disempowering for me.  after wearing pixies, shaving the head and scalping self for almost 45 years plus.  cut off my hair--im shorn and unhappy.  blaze it out like a lion mane and im a goddess.  i told u guys ive watched too many myth/hercules movies.  but feels good to finally be freer and happy.  on a sharing kick i see. today. rambling. and then i remembered something else.  u know what they do to you when ur going to prison--THEY CUT OFF ALL UR HAIR.  here in so cal they hand u a razor and tell u to get on it.   start cutting and shaving.  all beards go, all moustaches go and go and ur shorn.  LIKE A SHEEP.

ur a doll shoogie.  that was very sweet of u.  i like ur posts too and have wanted to answer u back on a few.  esp ur medieval dark ages one.  i learned they lied to us about that one too and more inventions in a short length of time happened then more than any other time in recorded history and that the middle class minus serfdom finally got going then and ppl learned to read and write finally after years of darker times before that.  hmmm.  i agreed too with ur findings and alien intervention in that one.  i believe it was guided and misguided too.

i love ur little blue guy.  he is friendly and looks willing to communicate from his realm readily.  good vibes from him and you, always.  and ur personality quote is delightful.  i love the "my people.." part it starts out with.  god, i wish we were all at a big Memorial day party man would we have a ball.  maybe someday.  something too to live for.  seriously.

i was going to put this in links but i think it can go here and really wanted it in here originally.  its hard to find too and my old plumber mentor told me about it long ago, then i stumbled on it trying to make sense out of the egyptian influence when i wanted to look into their theocracratic structure.   The History of the White Race-- Story of the Titans of History.  whew--talk about wars and possible theocrats and how who was who and how they got there and what happened.  man.  if ur conjecturing on who might be a crat--u may find out here.  i was stunned looking at all these wars, races, and all this bloodshed thru history.  you'll find almost every possible theocratic camp possibly springing from here.  its some stuff.  also please be aware that it is or has been labeled as white supremacist literature but again thats a POV and not important on our search.  dont care about such things, as crat-like individuals can, have, and do live in and amongst all races and all creeds.  all thru-out history.  its all clearly about DOMINATION which is the mainstay of crats and tyrants.  and tyrants and titans in general.  just read up if ur interested in the wars and the history of such.  its about the history of mankind and not just the 'white' race of which there really is no such PURE thing i dont think.  unless ur of nordic walk-in supremacy and have been brought here.  or something like that.  so just a heads up and thats why i dont have my email posted since i dont wanna hear from any WSP's now or ever.  its bad enuf i have the JW's that live in the community here and are not even jaded one bit by my 'beware' sign over the front door.  dang i hate answering that door when im in the middle of knocking jehovah.  damn.  if they only knew what i was doing when theyre knocking on my door.  how synch-y.  im talking of crats on the net and crat-worker bees are at the door hoping to indoctrinate.

anyway--on my search i will use anything and everything to show what may be what we can expand on and learn from.  ignore whatever turns u off and only go with what may be used to protect in the now and in the future.  this is like a view of history in a few pages.  written by?  winners? one can read thru and in-between 'the lines' as its history that is important.  dont care who wrote it, as that ensures when u read much of it u will know whats being given to u.  and why.  im interested in the PLAYERS here and their set-up.  doesnt it look like these wars were sponsored somehow?  CONTINUALLY.  it looks like pure theocratic injection and sponsorship to me.  and the point is that were talking of CRATS here, and wouldnt that figure???!!!!  all the way around.  yet and still when u read it with discernment i think u will find quite the opposite of the disclaimer.  many chapters talk of how the intense pulse of greed and domination and ignorance almost 'killed' the world more than once.  read the dark ages chapter and so on.  maybe its me in my essential weirdness, but i found it to be informative and fair in exposing all , any, or "both" sides to the proverbial coin.

as an example--thats sounds pretty right on to me.  the intent here is to show u guys lots of theocratic injected and maybe even off-world sponsored by whomever  history in a website link nutshell, instead of piece by piece.  and one more thing--if i have to keep putting in disclaimers and quantifiers with links (i know-- i did this on my own here)  then were as gimped as the other forums and ppl we say we detest.  ggggeeeeeezzzz.  READ IT ALL.  not just what u think u want to hear.  keep an eye with a 3rd eye out  (so thats 3 EYES out and roving around not counting the one at the back of ur head) on ALL OF 'EM.  including me.  oh hell and i looked at the clock on the computer for some reason and it said 3:33 PM.  and then i said to myself--get a job.  ha.

http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/index.htm  stay open minded on info == quantifier.  ie... DISCLAIMER which may not even be necessary so i tripped myself up this time without one warning word from anybody else.  just in case.

and what is more important than anything and i finally rmemebered what i wanted to say for days and days.  i read the other day (cant remember where) that THATS WHAT THEOCRATS do when theyre really really sharp, really 'good'. way tricky.   they dominate in evil but they GET US / YOU== PEOPLE-- to do "IT" for them.  see, they love murder, they love mayhem, they love carnage, they love blood, rape, hate, pain, suffering and all the loosh/energy that comes from such.  BUT THEY GET US TO DO IT.  OFTENTIMES IN THE "NAME OF GOD"!!!!!!   OMG.  is it that killer???  I SAY Is THAT KILLER  or what?  is that a good one?  oh yeah, theyre that good.  and thats whats in the minds of men, the men, the sheeple we want to save, to awaken, to protect.  my god, in the name of god, save fellow man from themselves.  for they do not see.  dont send ur sons to war STOP for its useless cannon fodder.  we scream to stop them but it goes on and we weep. daily.  we strive, we beg for this senseless looshing to stop.  but it flows on.  and thats why so clever  the mind of the predator.  in the mind of man.  and cannot constantly be going around BLAMING the goddam predator, but MAN__SEE INSIDE URSELF.  that shadow side is a mechanism, a veil that keeps one from seeing, but go and LOOK and its man HIMSELF.  that shadow is the protective mechanism that the predator/crat puts in place that is there, on purpose so man will turn away from it, in loathing and fear, and DISGUST.  and if man got a good look at it--HE WOULD KILL IT<> DESTROY IT.  but then, that would kill HIM, himself, it would KILL MAN because in his shame, his guilt, his anger, and IN HIS RAGE-- he would kill himself, out of fear of spreading it to others, the INFECTION, the armor of the dark, that hides right in front of faces.  and the predator's FEEDING POOL would be EXTINQUISHED.  for in his rage, of the betrayal, of the utter sheer disappointment he feels, the DESOLATION of it, when he finds the 'truth' of the lies of what he's been MADE TO DO< to HIMSELF and others, THAT HE DID IT HIMSELF, BY and TO HIMSELF -- then, all feeding would have to cease.  man would turn-coat.  but mainly on himself.  in a mortal 3D world, wherein its base, dense.  where its EASY TO DO THAT IN 3D.  yeah, its easy where not that many ppl/men can walk thru walls.  or throw psi balls, or tweak VR with the best of 'em.  see how that works.  i can step on ants real EASY.  F'in cowrads they are up there.  make man do their dirty work.  have u ever seen ANYTHING LIKE IT?

and thats why i see armageddon, or the 'battle" , or the fight with crats, as real, and the spiritual battle WITHIN.  AND WITHOUT.  its easy to wreak havoc in 3D and thats why we're goddamn stuck here.  for now.  only.

all this reminds me of that Southpark episode where the crowd bets on Satan instead of JC in the grand boxing match.  Satan, being ever so clever bets on JC, nobody else does, and so Satan takes his fake fall and throws the fight, takes all the dough, and the crowd goes into an uproar screaming "thats not fair, Satan; you cheated and fooled us."  and Satan goes "what in the hell did you think I was gonna do?  Play fair?--I'm Satan you idiots, that's the kind of stuff I do."  so then the Southpark crowd asks for Jesus's  forgiveness, for not believing in him and apologizes.  and JC goes "Ok, I forgive you.  Did I have any other choice?"   

and so it goes here.  on earth.  for now.

i must admit i have done very little about obtaining the books on this subject (and others that r related to same) that my dear comrades/friends have suggested and illustrated.  i cant seem to pull away from electronic reading habits since always easier to click on and off.  rather than looking for books, egads--spending money on same or ordering, or even borrowing.  altho a have a new job for about 4 months now where i sit for 10 hours.  1- 2 days/wk. no internet.  seeing way easy non-ill patients.  a nice break from 3rd world trainwreck ppl so very ill and desperate.  interestingly too--i saved that job for when i was totally tired of the frontlines.  then made arrangements to get that plugged in.  the self planned that and im grateful for the nice break.  that tells me right there so many many things, mainly not necessary for   the old ways--again thats validated.  do not need the SOS as time goes by.  evolving and letting go.  anyway, i could be there reading books....hmmm).   that being said, as usual, i have been perusing some the sites i go to, every now and again, along with others using google and searches for topic matter.  always a foundation is needed for the work, the search, and the biggest one, and simplest is that of relevance, synchronicity, with connection of the dots.  this latest deal had me thinking.  i wanted to show u guys weeks ago but it is sort of messy and all over the place, with redundancy, and repetitiveness.  yet, something is IN there for conjecture and believe it or not--debate.

the south african site is that of channeling and u will remember that they have osho there, and now a few 'others' have come thru.  its not a jump up and down thing.  but there's meat in it and its got me going, a bit.  the clincher is that from the info there, they seem to be getting messages from some crossed over folks and all that stuff, from recently departeds, etc., and some biggies in the traditional sense, mixed in with the channelers own thought projections, concerns, and their own human hypotheses, that r pointing to an interesting notion.  they say, or have found, if u will, that there's a problem with get this--consciousness vs awareness.   now, when one reads closely, ponders, considers, knowing what we know, and then doing the equations so to speak, one may discover the need to get into this further.  u will remember earlier in this thread, there's a post by osho stating his take after crossover, RE: the crats, and that things dont look good, in general on the other side for the average joe.  osho was disappointed when he found some stuff on crossover that had him quite dismayed.  he said we all have to go it alone.  hes working on sending info here, thru the veil, along with other 'gods' (buddha, et al) that supposedly can/will help earthers get things set, well--"straighter" for lack of a better word. 

summarily, ive gleaned from reading a bunch of stuff there, that there really may be something to this.  and that the exercise of gaining consciousness may not be the answer to the "problem" with the crats, or with the states of being in the 4th dimensional realm.  and THAT even is a lie, or a misunderstanding, and that EVEN has been thwarted and were duped into thinking that.  believing that.  and that awareness is much closer to whats necessary, on crossover/ascension/realm border crossing/shift. ETC.  thats so huge and perilous, yet, it has a feeling of possibility to it. a maybe to it.  for further consideration and development.  so seeing that and pondering on it.  i googled consciousness vs awareness, and what did i find?  i found a ton of stuff that pretty much scared the hell out of me.  it is tainted.  it is a huge problem.  so many authors, so many esoterics say that one leads to the other, one IS of the other, one needs one to obtain the other, on and on, in circles.  and angles galore.  but, using a discerning and id say, well-trained mind, i found errors.  many many errors.  it looked very swayed to me, very INJECTED IN to me.  purposefully, circling.  i found few reliable clues in it, all that has been written and gone on before, available to the human mind.  i didnt expect that.  and even is alerting.  so in the reading there, i found them talking about how reincarnation and the journey of the soul is that of consciousness.  that humans have that notion down pat.  that is embedded in human consciousness.  we grok that.  and that is the entire problem.  that in that consciousness, in the belief that there is reincarnation and the soul as the holder of the knowledge, the info--we r making a huge mistake,  we carry that from here to there, and live there so to speak, in and of that.   and therein lies the RUB....take a look at this: 

they infer that awareness and its states are way way more beneficial and powerful.  and that breaking free of that consciousness factor is a key/clue.  and im beginning to see what theyre saying and trying to illustrate.  the whole notion and that of having a NOTION is where trouble begins and ends.  and that having a soul, knowing it can and prob will reincarnate is a religion, in and of itself.  we have that info and have "religiousized" it.   uh-oh.  they go on to say that each one of us has been mislead into believing that when we get to the other side, we will be told who and what we are.  this is not too good, in that another entity does the telling of it.  not good, already giving power away there, and depending on, and following.  all from here.  all from what has been promoted here.  we r all very aware--see that, it helped already--that when we believe in mass numbers, and worship, and set thought forms into projections, they become realities.  we have discussed how we have conjured and set up gods, elementals, kings/crats ad infinitum and they have gained power thru us and our belief systems and by the energy we send.  refer back to the dark ones and the whole set up they injected in from the 3 parter wizard realm works posted a cpl days ago.  lots is in there,  the orig belief systems are there.  from just a few major tenets.  thats all it takes when those tenets are that good, that deep, that powerful.  that repeated, that injected, and theyre brilliant i say, since feeds, lifts off from, connects to another.  linking them all together to one massive trap that is going to be so way far out impossible to get out of.  yet NO--not if there is awareness instead of relying on consciousness.  consciousness is not the all and end all.  they r inferring that with a high consciousness, maybe ur just another crat, since u have that great ability to BE--but with awareness, there is purpose, it melds more with a higher more honest order if u will.

they infer the human must take responsibility for existence, period.  now wow--what a notion, and the opposite of whats gone on.  this could mean the whole apple cart could be upset--up there.  this brings us into or promotes a better footing.  so then more on the level with those already there.  this is what i mean by being a warrior and battling crats.  to clarify.   i see i needed more clarification to better communicate that.  its all in the thinking, and awareness.  clearer now.  i would  not want to keep going on and on about warriorism and be so naive as to keep promoting a physical battle ensuing in my own B-movie mind, altho as romantic and epic in proportion to beowulf and other tall tales, etc., of that irk, it would be the best scifi,  but totally ridiculous, since were dealing with an exceedingly clever and criminal set-up here.  eons ahead in scope.  yet thats the very answer/key/clue--to know whats going on and to be wary and then take matters of personal responsibility to create EXISTENCE from thereon.

they go on to say that things r being corrected in heaven.  but they main thing here is the awareness quotient.   

gotta phone call there, sorry but wanted to add this ...

WOW Pamelajean.  U Been there...or close to it.  tell us more.   we have to be prepared.  we need all the help we can get.  thats remarkable.  i feel and sense u have experienced it.  i loved how u said we have to move fast.  there has to be something way big to that.  as in martial arts movements and thinking--combined.  all the traits of thief, warrior, priest, and maybe even barbarian in there--all merged.  i swear this gets back to the triad or the trilogy, or the trinity.  bruce lee type warrior stuff.  quick fast KNOWING.   everything u said seems so real.  they think they have it all sewed up then, but not, for some of us.  but if fast and accurate and aware--we will see thru it, move thru it?   

and i wanted to say to belljar--bell, in another thread u said that when that wave thing or realm border thing or whatever it is comes closer next time, ur gonna ride with it, and go.  i wanted u to know so am i.  someone described that so perfectly the other day, how it takes ur attention away to it and fully engulfs and almost absorbs but in a good way.  what thread was that on?  man that was good, and when i read it i went  THAT's it. 

so Pamelajean, is it like that --the wavy wave thing?  or of that or way more stronger and engulfing?  which means no hesitation AT ALL.  wow sister, one would have to know/feel/ BE AWARE which is which.  or what IS what.  and no second chances.    aha. --- so that is key--the AWARENESS,  as THE CONSCIOUSNESS APPROACHES.   close?  let us know PJ.  this is getting clearer, i think.

i am getting the feeling we r honing in here on a giant clue.  we always say the only way to "play the matrix game" is to not play it.  not play to win so to speak.  so we may have the same set up here or close to it.  the big consciousness down here is en masse, as it is possibly (most probably) up there.  as above so below, and vice versa.  what is thought by group mind simply IS.  and u know the old EST thingy--what is simply IS.  so the way to break out of it, (i CAN FEEL this as a truth) is to not play either.  in that consciousness.  we we have to rise up and around it.  refute it.  maybe circle it but dont let it touch or absorb.  then they or the crats/absorbers cant have more of the same.  we may be the first ones, along with others we dont even know or have met yet (but we will im thinkin) that move fast up and on out and we leave the criminal ying yangs spinning and confused, as Pamelajean says--unexpectedly.  (i see why maybe Kyle doesnt wanna say.  but i think we have to say it and spread the word.  esp to each other and anybody who gets it).  so theyre left empty eventually.  i love it.  something brand new happens.  no more absorption by them because we figured it out. i dont think its a good idea to ride the wave out with the en mass consciousness.  we never bought that program as it is.  no reason to buy the damn thing now.

i keep thinking too that cosmic help is going to do something for the unaware on this, in the big shift, but theres more to it.  theres something in this that says they'll (whomever) will be going one one way and the rest of us another.  but theres a trick or 2 in that, as it is.  eventually, the awareness of the need to not play the old game of absorption just with feeling the possibilities and maybe CREATING them at those moments, may create a new reality of IS-ness.  a new plane of safety.  in awareness.  cant 'go' en masse i dont think.  so im wanting the shift, but dont trust it.  keep looking for ways to make sure no traps there.  just in case.  i think i can handle death, but i wanted that not to be a possibility.  i wanna override death.  am i out on a limb again?  went in a circle.  i keep thinking we dont have to DIE with this. but in case--we gotta get cratville down pat.  imperative.  not even gonna be enslaved again, not by them.  at all costs.

were the ancients trying to say this?  consciousness vs awareness?  they didnt have the internet, they couldnt spread info and go thru volumes of stuff like we have at the pace we have (altho it has taken a lifetime, sorta).  i feel an ancient doorway is opening with this.  did they know of crats then?  they knew something, it seems, and im talking about all the mystery schools.  it seems after they got the adepts up and running, with understanding and then raising consciousness---then they went for awareness.  and got specific.  now is time to get more specific it seems.   awareness lends itself to individuality .  im really seeing that now.  consciousness is grand at its elevated heights and so necessary, but presents more like an overlay.  like a blanket, on a huge plane of its own existence. 

funny how thats worked out.  in trying to find out how to die--learned how to live.  aware.