46 (edited by lyra 2006-10-29 10:21:03)

Re: Question about cats

Infinity_+_1 wrote:

l she would know, wouldnt you agree?.

"Wouldn't I agree?"  I don't know you, or your girlfriend. 



Infinity_+_1 wrote:

she just finished explaining to me that a dogs mouth is cleaner then the back of a babys hand and the toilet combined.

Maybe so, but I still won't let one lick me!  big_smile




Infinity_+_1 wrote:

just because a cat is diligent at removing soil from its coat does not not make it a clean little creature.

I never said anything about cats being clean *because* of being "diligent at removing soil from its coat."    What I said is that a cat has a sandpaper tongue and special saliva that leaves their fur smelling fresh and clean.  And that you will never encounter a cat that smells as horrendous as dogs do, because it's physically impossible due to their tongue and saliva.


Infinity_+_1 wrote:

dirt you can see is one thing, germs, parasites and the like are things you cannot and beloved kittys luxurious coat is crawling with this sort of life so be carefull where you burry your face if is cleanliness is a deeply rooted issue for you. dont be so fooled just because the odour of cat saliva is pleasing to you.

Well, I never said there wouldn't be germs and parasites in their fur.   EVERYTHING is crawling with germs and parasites...including dogs. 


Infinity_+_1 wrote:

this IS proven to students in first year vet studies with a simple swab test while working on the microbiology module which lasts 3 weeks.

its understoon that if your in the wild and sustain an injury and your dog is with you, you would be smart to let your dog clean your wound. they enzymes, more specifically, immunoglobins not found in human or cats mouth will prevent infection and the wound will heal considerably faster. fact. proven. period.   if you let your kitty lick the open wound on your arm for example,  you stand a very good chance of becoming very very ill. fact. proven. period.

The bit about having a wound in the wild and letting a dog lick it, versus a cat is very interesting indeed.  My aversion to having dogs lick me stems mostly from seeing the inability of their mouths to get their own selves clean and the resulting stink that ensues.   Ultimately, it's best to not have ANY animal be licking us if we can help it, but again, that's interesting that a dog's lick can supposedly help an open wound, so thanks for sharing that bit of info.....

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Yep, I believe Infinity is right about the dirtiness of cat saliva.

My honey and I were each bitten by our tough boy cat, Teddy, during the first year we were integrating him into our household. He IS an indoor/outdoor cat, which probably adds to the problem, but it was amazing...my honey's knuckles and hand started to swell up like a baseball, not pretty, very purple and tender, and he needed antibiotics for it.  When I got bitten I'd seen the drill from the earlier time we dealt with it and immediately cleansed the wound as best I could and also used colloidal silver (which combats - oh, poop I always forget - viruses or bacteria, can't remember!). Anyway, I used hydrogen peroxide and then colloidal silver on the wound. And I also orally took some garlic capsules twice a day for about four days total right after (natural antibiotic properties with the garlic.)  Anyway, my hand didn't get all messed up, but I think it would have if I hadn't taken those measures ASAP.  My partner's problem was that he was like me, we'd both mistakenly assumed that cat's saliva wasn't so bad, so he didn't cleanse his wound as aggressively as he should have, and (important point) he didn't do it immediately after he'd been bitten.

Later on the doctor told him that, yep, a cat's saliva is much more germ-ridden than a dog's.  Seems like such a disconnect, though - that dogs are the smelly ones, generally, whereas cat's seduce you into snuzzling their tummies and thinking they're clean!

Still, I love the non-smelliness of cats.  Except the litter box, of course. 

Jennifer aka LipstickMystic

48 (edited by Pictus 2006-10-29 14:19:54)

Re: Question about cats

LipstickMystic wrote:

Yep, I believe Infinity is right about the dirtiness of cat saliva.

My honey and I were each bitten by our tough boy cat, Teddy, during the first year we were integrating him into our household. He IS an indoor/outdoor cat, which probably adds to the problem, but it was amazing...my honey's knuckles and hand started to swell up like a baseball, not pretty, very purple and tender, and he needed antibiotics for it.

Jennifer aka LipstickMystic

LipstickMystic "little" Teddy lol
http://www.nwf.org/nationalwildlife/images/082003/knomodo2.jpg
http://www.nwf.org/nationalwildlife/art … issueId=63
“Fredeking brought the dragon samples back to the States with him for analysis. Stewart and his
colleagues at the University of Texas looked at the saliva, and found 57 different strains of
bacteria growing there. The most interesting type was called Pasteurella multocida. "Normally it
takes about three days for a sample of P. multocida to cover a petri dish," says Fredeking. "Ours
took eight hours. We were very taken aback by how virulent these strains were."

So were the laboratory mice injected with saliva containing the bacteria. All died within four days
of receiving the infusion of the microbe-laden saliva." yikes

http://www.szgdocent.org/resource/rr/c-komodo.htm

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cute..little teddy is one of those hairless ones!


every time i see a cat, the more they look reptilian.

Re: Question about cats

I had a horrendous case of poison ivy one time. I had HUGE oozing crusties all over my arms. I couldnt sleep the itch was sooo bad. Nothing was relieving the itch, EXCEPT (and I know this will sound gross) for when my dog would lick arms. Apparently dogs dont experience reactions to the oil in poison ivy. I guess he knew how bad I was, so he would come up and lick my arms, and it was the only time I would have relief. My arms would feel soothed and wouldnt itch for about an hour afterwards. I would run after him begging him to lick my arms, and I could only wait until he decided he wanted to  big_smile Must be something in their saliva. I have had dogs lick my face all my life and have never gottne sick from it.  My cat loves to lick my face, but that sandpaper feeling starts to hurt after a while.!

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Teddy the Jungle Cat

http://www.lipstickmystic.com/images/catpics/tjunglecat160.jpg

He has huge black paws, like bear paws. 

Our other nickname for him is Knuckles the Cat.

Jennifer aka LipstickMystic

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The strange mutation of the Manx cat.
http://www.iomguide.com/manxcat.php

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

53 (edited by lyra 2006-10-30 14:45:47)

Re: Question about cats

So we were out at a coffeehouse this afternoon, on the rooftop patio, and there was a really cute dog there belonging to the people at another table.  I was photographing the hot air balloons floating by overhead smile and when I went back to our table the dog trotted over to say hello to me.   I was no longer worried about being licked by dogs thanks to this thread big_smile  so I was happily petting it, (it didn't smell either, a nice change of pace wink  ) and every time I'd stop scritch scratching she would nudge my hand and give me a little lick.  More!  It was cute.  Even cuter is how later on I glanced over at her lying down next to her people, thinking "how cute...." and she saw me looking at her, perked up, got up and came trotting back over.  She seemed older, so she moved slow, but trotted over as fast as she could manage in order to get some more scritch scratching.  I love when animals do that thing where they stand facing sideways, pressing up against you, which she was doing.  My cat does that a lot too.  It's this happy affectionate thing. 

Anyway, my cute animal story of the day....

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Cat Headed Beings

http://www.crystalinks.com/cat.html



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