46 Reply by lyra (edited by lyra 2006-11-07 10:52:33)

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proto wrote:

People in NYC think acting like that is cute and the "real" them because "I'm from New York", which I think is complete herd mentality and that mentality comes in different flavors and textures. The conditioning that is going on here is indeed dangerous and disregards others, which is selfish. BAD VIBES, really.

That's so funny because yesterday afternoon when I was driving home from work I remembered the whole "I'm from New York" mantra that you always hear New Yorkers say.  My dad was the first to point it out to me.  I wasn't aware of the fact that many New Yorkers have a tendancy to say this.... A LOT.....but damn if it's not true!  big_smile   "I'm from New York, I'm from New York, I'm from New York"......even when it's not relevent to ANYTHING being discussed.   My dad's from NY, but can't tolerate the NY attitude.  He currently lives in southern Connecticut near the shoreline.....which is inundated with New Yorkers every summer.   He told me all kinds of stories about the things that would happen every year once the New Yorkers arrived in town.

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proto wrote:

I didn't mean to give you the impression that I'm the typical angry New Yorker with a really thick accent (my accent is pretty neutral, believe it or not, which comes from years of correcting my parents' English. smile  )

i didn't get the impression that you were that you're typical angry new yorker -- but i love the really think accents - wish i was born with one lol


proto wrote:

but I was agreeing with Lyra and how many New Yorkers/New Jerseyans just can't seem to relax and very hustle bustle "GO! GO! GO!" and how that mentality is dangerous in the long run.

ya - lots of people, esp. in corporate-land, in big cities all over the world, tend to get sucked into that ... i guess new york would be top on the list somewhere ... but toronto is the same, as is vancouver - although i get the feeling that in vancouver it's generally more relaxed -- maybe some of it has to do with the ocean breeze and the beautiful scenery ...

proto wrote:

People in NYC think acting like that is cute and the "real" them because "I'm from New York", which I think is complete herd mentality and that mentality comes in different flavors and textures. The conditioning that is going on here is indeed dangerous and disregards others, which is selfish. BAD VIBES, really.

ya - no doubt ...

gotta say about vancouver and my experience of it so far -- i live in north van. - by the mountains - and i take the bus into downtown every morning -- there are plenty of 'good vibe' folks here - both in the north shore and in the heart of the city ... lots and lots of people who aren't affraid of eye contact and even exchanging smiles - imagine ! (of course there's lots of low-energy peeps as well - dah well) ... but i have a few friendly exchanges with new people almost on a daily basis - it's pretty cool.

proto wrote:

I don't think there's anything wrong with disciplining yourself, if the long term goal will be beneficial and positive for you and others, too. If I had not stop eating doritos and drinking 2 snapples a day, God knows how I would look like and my state of health would be. big_smile But observing and allowing yourself to just be without judgement is great, as long as you catch those nasty little critter thoughts/emotions that come out of nowhere because they love to breed in your mind/body. I don't know, maybe I am harsh on myself sometimes, but I can't allow myself to let myself go and become a mess. I do live in the moment, but I can't ignore what's going on and let it be if I have the power to change something that's unpleasant in the now. Does that make sense?  I don't want to re-learn  annoying lessons ever again.

i hear you Proto -- what i'm trying to say is: it's the very seeing of those 'little critter thoughts & emotions' that gets rid of them - that's what i call discipline - making contact 'without judgement' ... i know what you meant when you said discipline - and ya, that's true 2 .. and you brought up a point also at looking at why those things come up - the thing that's behind them  -- i do that too - seek out the truth - try and see the root behind why the thought/emotion comes up, when it comes up -- this whole process to me is non-resistance with whatever happens to be going through my psyche - but when i notice something icky and i cringe or turn away or resist or try to change it -- that's a waste of energy -- 'cause i'm not one with what's happening, there's a conflict happening inside -- wonder if that makes any sense ?

* have you ever wanted to be free of wanting to be free of your emotions ? * <- a favorite line of mine from a k-os joint ...

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"Wanting to be free of emotions".  I always had problems relating to my feelings. It was like the feelings spoke a different language. I was intimidated and afraid of them, so they must be controlled or they will get out of hand. I learned that suppressing feelings is not the answer, if you lock your servants in the basement and rule them with an iron fist they will rebel and burn your house down.  Many say that all emotion follows thought, however I have many times when I just wake up feeling horrible for no reason or during the course an otherwise unremarkable day. Could it be unconscious triggers?
  This morning I was exploring my feelings, some strong and unpleasant ones were there. I thought about when I used to go boating I used to call the weather/marine channel to get sea conditions. Choppy, calm, stormy, I had no control over what is was but I could decide whether to go out or not and what precautions to take. Sometimes I would just stay in the harbor. It would eventually calm down so I could go out.  If all is one then we are the water and the emotions are the waves.

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Looks like a trend has appeared in this thread. What started as an open discussion of vibes in all places ended up as a discussion of the NE coast, especially NY. Sounds like this isn't the place to be.

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Just got an email from a friend a few days ago who's currently in Edmonton, Alberta Canada.  Says it makes Portland Oregon look like a walk in a meadow.  big_smile   She says it's more demon dimension bleedthrough, same as Portland, full of very creepy vibes.  Had to do a clearing on her hotel room and protective blocks around herself in order to even remain there for the several weeks' visit.  Her male friend has a nickname for it - Deadmonton, due to the vibe.   Interesting.   However, she loves Vancouver and can't wait to get back there to spend some time.  So the general consensus seems to be a big thumbs up to Vancouver BC.....

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(Referring to Edmonton) lyra wrote:

She says it's more demon dimension bleedthrough, same as Portland, full of very creepy vibes.

I have been doing some work with some oil people who have a base in Alberta.  What they are doing up there with oil sands is very terrible for the earth.  I recently heard some discussion on Coast to Coast AM that oil is the lifeblood of the earth.  If that is the case we are desecrating the Earths surface, and sucking her dry up in Alberta.  Could be a reason for a creepy STS vibe.

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52 Reply by tomatochip (edited by tomatochip 2006-11-23 23:37:17)

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WEOPPOSEDECEPTION wrote:

Tomatochip, I can surely identify with your story. I moved to Gilbert, AZ 6 yrs ago from Long Island, NY. For a long time I considered it to be the worst blunder I ever made. However when I made the move I was not in good shape and deteriorating rapidly. My life has improved markedly since then. It was easy to blame all my failings on the new location. The grass looks greener looking back (especially if you're in the desert).  I also would like to remove myself from the ratrace, maybe when my daughter finishes high school in 4 yrs.

Interesting, WEPOPPOSEDECEPTION. I have considered that the physical characteristics of the Arizona desert to be a mirror of what happens INTERNALLY to those living here. At least, to those who have the awareness to consider it. What I mean is, Arizona is a desert. It's dry, it's wide open spaces, it has no trees to hide behind. It's in the direct light of the sun. I have found in relation to my own life, that all these characterists can be applied to my internal life since living here. Things that I would have wished to hide from were impossible to hide from.... they were illuminated and right in my face! Of course, this inability to hide and being forced face my 'demons' faciliated accelerated internal growth, and a kind of 'hardiness'. Much like the characteristics of desert plants, like cactus that must withstand the harshest extremes of the elements. There also is an 'openness' here, spiritually speaking, that I didn't find back east. An open-mindedness. I REALLY notice it when I go back and visit old friends and/or familly. After ten years, It's a huge difference in perception that I have integrated. Interesting correlation of outer topograpy mirroring inner landscape, is it not?!!?

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Capitan wrote:
(Referring to Edmonton) lyra wrote:

She says it's more demon dimension bleedthrough, same as Portland, full of very creepy vibes.

I have been doing some work with some oil people who have a base in Alberta.  What they are doing up there with oil sands is very terrible for the earth.  I recently heard some discussion on Coast to Coast AM that oil is the lifeblood of the earth.  If that is the case we are desecrating the Earths surface, and sucking her dry up in Alberta.  Could be a reason for a creepy STS vibe.

Definately a reason for the creepy vibe...

I spent a couple of months last winter working up in Fort McMurray right in the heart of it and I can definately confirm that one.  My partner actually grew up there and she got the hell out as soon as was possible (like 16 or something!)  I do some environmental reclamation work  - cleaning up the mess basically.  Coming from an educational background in ecology I can say first hand that it is indeed a shame what is happening there and in many other places of the world, but it will all continue fullfold until they suck it all dry or everyone finally wakes up and starts really developing alternatives and making them commerically viable and available to the public.... but that's a whole other thread in itself!

Anyhow,  having to live up there was intense.  I had to do tonnnnes of clearing/energetic work when I arrived and had to remain diligent or else I would get sucked in to the intense negative mindset.  People there seem extremely zombified.  From my observations and interactions, I would have to say that the majority of them were unhealthy, both physically and mentally.  Just driving took a lot of energy-  everyone was extremely STO orientated so there was rarely a corteous driver to let you in a lane etc.  People seemed consumed with the money grab that is going on up there.  Too many stories of him screwing her over screwing him over etc. etc.   

On a daily basis I had to be very aware of the thoughts in my head, my attitude and use techniques that I have learned to protect my own energy field from being parasitized.  Fortunately, due to my job, I spent a lot of time away from the major industrial plants and the city deep in the bush among the woods and muskeg and animals.  It's probably the only thing that kept me sane up there. 

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Tomatochip, thanks for the feedback. I had the notion to call a friend back east last week, haven't spoken to her since I left. I noticed our minds were on completely different frequencies now. I'm going to send her a copy of "The Power of Now" for Xmas and see if it sparks an interest.