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I experienced a few pod people moments at work today. I was talking with - lets name him J  - and he said "I have a hole in my socks.  OH NO" where I responded "Is there anything wrong with that?"  implaying 'nay' -that there isn't anything wrong.  So J said "You're saying that because you have a hole in your sock don't you?", in which I responded "No".  Then J said "You said that to make me feel better didn't you?"  in which I responded (LOL) "No, I said that because there ISN'T anything wrong with it, it just IS" big_smile

I got the whole "What?!?" look on J's face. Funny experience #1!

So the second time was with J also, in which he said "I booked next week off, cause its my birthday"  And I wasn't being mean here but I didn't say anything!!!  I didn't know what to say so I just kept silent.  He kept looking at me expecting me to say "happy birthday" LoL.  So he ended up saying sarcastically "Thanks you made me feel better" or something to that degree.

And thats number 2 for tonight.

Great topic by the way.
I've enjoyed everything that you have all said, thanks!

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Stephen M wrote:

My take on the pod folks is that at their core most are weak, afraid and victims of their own habit structure which gets reinforced daily and eventually gets to the point which becomes them.

Essentially they are afraid to be themselves but have a desire to fit in so they adopt personality traits from television characters or various role models or popular people in high school, whatever, all as part of a survival mechanism. Eventually this becomes a way of life and an ongoing process and is reinforced by others doing the same thing and the adventurous of the bunch become the first to adopt a new trend (buy an ipod) or  be the first in the office to use a  catch phrase (probably heard on TV). When confronted with something outside their norm, they simply do not know how to react because they have not seen it on TV and do not know what is appropriate. At that point they do not even consider their own feelings or thoughts they are just scanning their knowledge base for proper reactions.

They're not bad people (not that anyone is saying they are), they are just weak and do not know better. In order to really reach them you need to get to a level of trust at  the point in them at which they were first forming their personalities and is not easy but can be done if you care about them. Probably not worth it for casual office acquaintances, better just to be the weirdo and let them figure it out for themselves.

SM

Great post! I had to reply it here. This is the core of the subject.

One of the things that always disturbs me is bold part above. Catch phrases. These mostly come from ads. A slogan. Some words. The next day you see everyone parroting it. Same with the coorporate phrases that others wrote about. In fact this was what I tried to tell here:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=354 (wow! I've posted this 2 yrs ago! this seems a long time)


Pods do not know how to react because they did not see it on TV or in their education. Also there are programmed blocks in their conscioussness as z3n3rg says. Or let's say these programmes exists in all of us. Somehow we were able to use kind of anti-virus softwares. Or I'd like to believe we also have all anti-virus softwares inside. But if you're weak, afraid & have victim mentality, there's no way you may use these anti-virus programmes. That's why whole education system and media (news, politics, religion) are here to pump us fear and insecurity.

Change we must, to live again
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Stephen M wrote:

My take on the pod folks is that at their core most are weak, afraid and victims of their own habit structure which gets reinforced daily and eventually gets to the point which becomes them.

Essentially they are afraid to be themselves but have a desire to fit in so they adopt personality traits from television characters or various role models or popular people in high school, whatever, all as part of a survival mechanism. Eventually this becomes a way of life and an ongoing process and is reinforced by others doing the same thing and the adventurous of the bunch become the first to adopt a new trend (buy an ipod) or  be the first in the office to use a catch phrase (probably heard on TV). When confronted with something outside their norm, they simply do not know how to react because they have not seen it on TV and do not know what is appropriate. At that point they do not even consider their own feelings or thoughts they are just scanning their knowledge base for proper reactions.

They're not bad people (not that anyone is saying they are), they are just weak and do not know better. In order to really reach them you need to get to a level of trust at  the point in them at which they were first forming their personalities and is not easy but can be done if you care about them. Probably not worth it for casual office acquaintances, better just to be the weirdo and let them figure it out for themselves.

SM

I think this is a really good explanation, and just wanted to point it out again in case anybody missed it.  smile    I also came up with "fear" as being the driving force behind why these people are the way they are.  They're very scared.  Scared of the unknown.  Scared of change.  Scared of being different and standing out...because of what the resulting consequences may be, which is usually loss of their respected position and of "fitting in."  And not fitting in usually results in being alone and on the outside...so then, the fear of being alone.  It's this interconnected web of all things "fear."

Also, when you look at what the pods usually all have in common, you will see *MONEY* at the core.  When I was sitting here knitting smile and thinking about this topic, that's what I realized as I thought back on the various pods I've seen over the years.  They are all focused on money.  Having money.  How to get MORE money.  Having nice things, and the resulting materialism and consumerism.  Driving a nice car.  Having name brand label clothes, purses and shoes.  Jewelry.  Acquiring a big house, full of things.   And lots of toys and techno gadgets.   At the core of this obsession and drive for money is the fear of not being "secure" with all needs provided for, times ten.  Because not having needs met can in the worse case scenario result in death.   No food, no clothes, no roof over the head.....death.

Money and "things" also serve as a distraction, so one doesn't have to spend any time alone with themselves and their own thoughts, facing ideas that are what of all things but.....scary!  More fear!  When you're permanently distracted with the Ra!Ra!Ra! of the every day world, and its blaring in-your-face entertainment and all the pretty little toys and things around you then you don't have to face any scary thoughts. 

So many of the pods get enamored by the idea of nice things and achieving money.  They're the people who get impressed and Wow'd!!! when encountering others in life who've got loads of money.  Whereas a non-Pod would just shrug their shoulders and think (or even say) "I'm not impressed.  What about the things that actually *matter*?  They have all this "stuff," but are they happy?  Is their life real?" 

I've worked at various jobs over the years that gave me exposure to people with some extreme amounts of money.............along with the average Schmoes around them who would do ANYTHING to get to that level as well, so impressed and enamoured and "Wow'd!!!" by it all.  One job happened to be at a real estate agency in SoCal that catered to million dollar homes.  I was the "office administrator" who answered phones, ordered supplies, set up the meetings, as well as getting all new agents set up and ready to roll.  I'd have to sit down with them and find out what sort of business cards and signs they wanted, as well as go over their training packet of information.  And in doing so, I saw the amped up, laser beam focus desparation that many of these agents had to become high rollers.  The ultimate carrot-on-a-stick motivator was the main agent bosses, a married couple, who ran the office and were super succesful....to the point of being freaky.  These people made more money than anybody I've ever personally known, to this day, due to the fact that they  were selling $1, 2, 3.....5......million dollar homes, netting usually a 3% commission on each, and selling anywhere from 5 - 8 of these houses a month.  I know, 'cause I had to do their figures on an Excel spreadsheet that I created.  wink  They lived in a huge house and drove the top of the line cars and had more money than they knew what to do with.  And they were the inspiration for the other money chasing pods.  Everybody wanted in on it, everybody wanted a piece of the pie.  And as a result, the agents often became quite soulless in the way they behaved as people.  Really edgy personalities, very "ME! ME! ME!" oriented, very superfiical and shallow.  Although oddly enough, I found that the other office staff to be the worst people of all to be dealing with, not necessarily the agents.  They weren't on the super rich level, and most likely never would be.  Instead, they were upper middle class, with just enough money to make them snobby and rude, and material-obsessed, but not enough to ever be on the level of some of the agents, which seemed to make them very cranky and miserable.  The other office staff struck me as having empty lives and were very unhappy as a result.

The other notable job was at the yachting brokerage in South Florida, where I answered phones and did data entry, faxes, and mail.  The brokers themselves were usually really nice, down to earth personable guys, very likeable......although still very much "lock step," as Lipstick Mystic referred to it in the opening post.  They were very mainstream and lived life by the book.  My strange ideas often left  them with very puzzled looks on their faces.  big_smile  However, it was the people they sold the boats to that had the real issues.  Usually not nice people.  I also saw a lot of the other female office staff of very average means who were so impressed and enamoured with the opulance, fawning over these million dollar yachts, striving to one day be able to either own one, or at least sell them and make tons of money from it.;  the little "after work mixers" that sometimes happened where you could "network" with others in the yachting industry, with the promise of climbing the industry ladder.  One fellow female admin worker was trying to convince me to go to one.  I couldn't for the life of me figure out why.  !!  I answer phones!   She was like, But you won't always be doing that!  Don't you want to sell these boats?  Don't you want to move up?   I was like, "Hanh???  No!  Of course not!"  Holy cow.  !   Again, everybody wanted in on it, everybody wanted a piece of the pie, blindly chasing the $$$$.   

So that's what I've discovered....money is usually at the core of the pod people personality.  They're very scared, and money = security.  And they will chase money madly, and/or at least be extremely impressed and wow'd by those who do have it.  They'll put up with these seminars that teach people how to make more $$, read books that would bore me to tears, and use up their free time in general devoted to how to network, invest, and make money, money and more money.  Chasing money becomes their life, and to me, it's disturbing.  None of it has any substance.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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We have new pods that moved into our neighborhood. They drive around in a white Hummer. When the "podcop" next door found out about it he was so impressed. He's like," man, he's in marketing, I should have done that. Look at all the stuff he has!" Than he goes on to say,"we have to live paycheck to paycheck". Geez, but they seem to be able to go on all these trips with their three kids, hire professional landscaper for their yard, have 2 cars,etc.,etc.  When my husband and I lived  paycheck to paycheck (sometimes we still do) we werent taking vacations and buying things, we were looking for ways to cut back so as to have enough to pay bills and feed ourselves. We still only have one car, and we manage fine.  So the "podcop" is sure to  make friends with the new pods because, ohmygod, they have a........HUMMER!

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

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Pod phrase of the day.....

"....in regards to."

That one always annoys me. It's like a filler phrase, empty, and doesn't really mean anything. So of course pods use it all the time!

http://www.lipstickmystic.com/images/pod-child.jpg

You have to admit it though, some of the wee pod people are cute.

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

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LipstickMystic wrote:

Pod phrase of the day.....

"....in regards to."

That one always annoys me. It's like a filler phrase, empty, and doesn't really mean anything. So of course pods use it all the time!

Well, since we're going there, one phrase I absolutely detest is, "striving for."  I hate the word "strive" in all its permutations.  That's one of those irritating phrases that's a requesite for mission statements, another soul-less, pod-people invention.

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Tom Paine wrote:

Finding
one or two individuals that you can talk to or relate to can sometimes feel like a lifeline
to sanity in those situations.

Honestly, without those one or two people work would completely unbearable.  I personally believe that besides forcing me to be physically active, jobs have a more important function in my ability to be of service to others in that I can help and be helped by those one or two people that share similar vibes.  I present thoughts to them that they may not have exposed themselves to  but are open minded enough to ponder them, and at the same time it forces me to further refine my "belief system", helping me understand more of what I think I know, he he. It also helps me hear opposing or critical viewpoints to help with the refining process. There is a mututal exchange and both are benefited by it, can't get better than that!


zenden wrote:

what a great thread.  im cracking up all over the place.  we r NOT pod thats for sure, thats why i look bizarre.  so i dont  present as pod, on purpose.  am really old, have dreadlocks, piercings but not brows etc,. just ears, had for over 35 yrs, tatoos, swear alot, say what i think.  dont look like anybody in my world, i scare ppl i guess.

I was telling people in the NR IRC channel one night about my dreads and how they seem to act as a social filtering mechanism.  Because dreads represent the counter-culture, those who resonate with fringe ideas tend to not be scared by people with dreads as they usually indicate someone who is the opposite of the pods.  While not everyone with dreads may fit that, generally most are open minded people with more focus in life than just material gain.  Because pod types know that people with dreads are usually rebelious and not into mainstream culture they automatically stay away.  Once again this isn't a rule, but is a general phenomenon.  Wearing a yin-yang bandana over them definately helps to filter as well.  Those who resonate with me have an idea what I'm about already by appearances, and those who don't resonate know to stay away from me because I'm a "freak" or whatever.

z3n3rg wrote:

What they require most is 'Lights' living within their light without apologies.  And that doesn't require a word to ever be spoken.  In fact, I find that words usually hinder such endevors of awakening.  For our language is subjective.  One word I say may mean something completely different to another.

Also, when taking on such an endevour head-on through speach, it's almost inevitable that the conscious blocks already in place will just be reinforced.  So it's actually hindering their developement.  I certainly don't want to be the cause of that.

Good point z3n.  To me the law of allowance is extremely important, especially with pod people.  You can't and in my opinion shouldn't force your views on someone that isn't receptive in the first place.  I make a point of saying things that will make people question their own socially accepted paradigms, but I have to keep from getting emotionally involved in the process and leaving it at simple comments.  If someone is interested I'll keep it up, but there is no point in attempting to deny them their chosen ignorance. Free will must be upheld for individual growth and respecting the growth of others.

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Another point to keep in mind (if it resonates) is the idea of people's incarnational lesson plan and soul maturity.  If someone is here to learn about the potential spiritual downsides of aquiring material posessions and fitting in it will be quite natural for them to stick to that role and not venture outside of the mainstream to find greater truths, thereby learning about their spirit through the less spiritual paths of sex/money/fun fun fun.  It may also be part of YOUR plan to help those who are stuck in pod mode but who are sincerely unhappy with it and are seeking a way out in the form of a loud alarm clock.  Just remember to allow them to hit the snooze button if they're still too tired or comfy to wake up.

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Poffo wrote:

I was telling people in the NR IRC channel one night about my dreads and how they seem to act as a social filtering mechanism.

HEhehehehheeheh
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Blue wrote:

I think its the Pareto (80/20) principle.

Only 20% of the people on the planet were ever supposed to evolve. The other 80% are just making up the numbers.  Just like the wildebeeste, they provide food for the predators, leaving the rest of the species to evolve and survive.

They are doing a good job. big_smile

More on the 80/20 principle
http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/42 … principle/

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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pictus

UR THE MAN!!!!!!   (picture me bowing and laughing and lovin it)  but how in the hell did u get my picture!!!???  love it love it love it.  and hey poffo--of course, thats why i got them, u too?  certainly.  when i first did it, i said i was a cross between predator-roseanne barr--and whoopie goldberg..  when i go to parties and am asked i say its a hybrid cross fight between predator and alien (warrior/queen, bitch, bad-ass, off world female).  the roseanne part is the middle aged spread--obesity quotient.  yet big mouth, funny, tells it like it is...like her dont like her, she'll hurt but wont care.  i can dig it.     oh yeah and one more thing on looking different--or out there and fringe.  no shit.  i once told the wife of one of my male friends, when she first saw me do it (shes pod, a hairdresser, doesnt know me like he does) when i saw her cringe-- she goes "what does all this mean"?   i go "well--its what i think of ppl, frankly"  and she goes "whewwwwww"   yep. thats right.  just what ur thinkin im thinkin--ur thinkin.  good.  case settled.

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Here's another phrase I'd like to add that pod people use ALL THE TIME! This one really annoys me to no end because...I hear it every single day, even from my own family members that I just want to tell them "NO NO NO, IT'S NOT TRUE! GET OFF UR LAZY BUTT AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT!" and that is:


                                               -Same s*&#, different day.


Why does it annoy me? I have no clue. I admit, I used to use this phrase when I was younger until I realized one day that this phrase drained my energy and threw my whole mentality off like there wasn't anything meaningful to live for the next day. I encounter this phrase whenever I see someone who is always tired or with someone who is content with the way they live, but bring out sheer "please help me, I'm helpless" attitude/vibe about things such as money or relationships. Jaded isn't even the word because they're sorta jaded, but when the subject changes, they're fine, even when they find someone to commisserate with. (Misery loves company, I assume) Even my coworkers, who, after coming from 3 week vacations say it, while I ask them where they went for the 3 weeks (sometimes I don't even know why I care, but I love travel, I guess), they would go on to say the programmed response: "y'know, same s*&#, different day". Yeah... ok. Sometimes, I would  ask people "Why do you always say that? Is that really true?" and they would stop cold, think a little, explain "you're right...", but resume saying it, which just proves that you really can't help someone if they haven't asked for help.
Even the cool deli guy nearby my job is starting to say it. He's so cool and friendly and hooks me up with a free bottle of water sometimes, but why is he saying it? I don't know, I see him, at most for like 5-10 minutes every other day, so I don't know, but once I saw that he was starting to say it, my heart wrenched and just left the store thinking "oh no, they got to him, too!"

"We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same."
– Carlos Castaneda

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proto wrote:

Here's another phrase I'd like to add that pod people use ALL THE TIME! This one really annoys me to no end because...I hear it every single day, even from my own family members that I just want to tell them "NO NO NO, IT'S NOT TRUE! GET OFF UR LAZY BUTT AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT!" and that is:


                                               -Same s*&#, different day.


Why does it annoy me? I have no clue. I admit, I used to use this phrase when I was younger until I realized one day that this phrase drained my energy and threw my whole mentality off like there wasn't anything meaningful to live for the next day.

Yeah, that's an irritating one, no doubt.  It bugs because it IS so negative, jaded and pessimistic.  If you're somebody who doesn't feel that way about life, then finding yourself surrounded by those who have this attitude can be frustrating because it's like they're trying to push their crappy attitude onto you.   It's like a virus, a negative plague that overtakes humanity or something.   So it's good that you're aware of it and question it.  Have to keep your shield up against that nonsense.   It's also frustrating to see people who've gone belly up and don't make the most of life, and just do the same stupid things, day in and day out, 24/7, 365 days a year.....then moan and groan about it, and again, try to push that bad attitude and stagnant lifestyle onto everybody else around them like a virus.   Sorry, but I for one make the most of my life.   I've crammed three lifetimes into this one!   big_smile  Burning the candle at both ends, the way it should be!  haha  "Same shit, different day" my ass.   I would die of boredom.    Those are the people I avoid in life.  I've turned down job assignments where I'd be working with people who have that sort of negative attitude.  I don't want to be around it. 


proto wrote:

Sometimes, I would ask people "Why do you always say that? Is that really true?" and they would stop cold, think a little, explain "you're right...", but resume saying it, which just proves that you really can't help someone if they haven't asked for help.

It's good that you question this....keep questioning it.  Even if it seems like it isn't making a difference....challenge it every time you encounter it as a reminder to your own self, if nothing else. It reinforces to yourself that you refuse to be sucked in by the virus plague.   And maybe in the process it will give somebody a jolt.  !  Plant some seeds, who knows.   But definitely keep questioning it and challenging it every time you hear it.

"Hey, how's it going!"

"Ah, you know.  Same shit, different day."

"Really?!   Wow, not for me!"  Then launch into some amazing thing you're getting a kick out of in life.  In fact, the smaller and sillier it is, the better.  Just goes to reinforce joy in the little things!  "I just spent 20 minutes watching these bumblebees on the flowers outside.  That's something else I tell you!  I took pictures too.  I'll show you the film when it gets developed. Life is good!"

big_smile

I mean, what can people say to that?  If they argue, it just really magnifies how negative they are.  Worst case scenario they'll look at you like you're a little weird......but we already know that you're not the weird one here.  They are.  wink  So don't even worry about it.  And if you've got something big and wonderful going on in your life, then talk about that.  It plants seeds, shows people what's possible.  Shows them that it doesn't have to be "Eat, Work, Watch TV, Sleep, Repeat."   It stops the virus right in its tracks.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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lyra wrote:

I mean, what can people say to that?  If they argue, it just really magnifies how negative they are.  Worst case scenario they'll look at you like you're a little weird......but we already know that you're not the weird one here.  They are.  wink  So don't even worry about it.  And if you've got something big and wonderful going on in your life, then talk about that.  It plants seeds, shows people what's possible.  Shows them that it doesn't have to be "Eat, Work, Watch TV, Sleep, Repeat."   It stops the virus right in its tracks.

Indeed.

On this subject, I had an encounter with a person today at work, who ended up getting very angry at me (I could feeeeeel his energy) because I "should know what I'm doing by now". LoL. 

This new job is at a restaurant and my job tonight was to put food in a pool of fat until its ready so others can joyfully eat it wink.  So the guy thats in charge of the line calls which food I need to prepare, now this guy that got angry at me had called something which I didn't even hear... so he's like "did you get so and so", I'm like "No", then proceeded to get it, but (oops!) I brought out 2 extra pasta bags when I wasn't suppose too!  And he snapped at me, swearing and everything.  I didn't respond and to raise my energy I just focused on breathing.  It's just annoying and hypocritical that he would yell at me.  Like common, we are selling ourselves short for money and turning ourselves into machines, and you need to lash out at me, thanks, but no thanks!  Sorry I'm not at "automatic drone mode" yet!

LoL, time for a new job tongue

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