Circumcision (Page 8 of 8)

Because of the tremendous profits involved, doctors are incouraged to NOT use anesthetic, which makes the recycled foreskin useless to the bio-engineers (and perhaps untasty to those bloodsucking reptilians?). Something could be said about the mentality of the circumcisers themselves. There was a story about a mother who gave birth to a very deformed baby, with an estimated lifespan of a month, give or take. Even though this child was doomed to die, the doctors still put him through the unecessary and truamatic circumcision. Either these Dr's have been cut themselves, are addicted to the god-like power they have over the baby, and the manipulation of the parents trust that the DR knows what he is doing. All of the above, and more?

It has been observed how many medical graduates will fight over who gets to do the next circumcision, but when it comes to the care or treatment of other patients they will have minimal interest, if any, and will fight over who doesn't have to do it

To me, it's not so much a question of technological cleanliness, as it is of common sense and regular care. I believe we have been sold the "medical" reasons for circumcision to cover up why they really do this. And even the medical/hygenic reasons are a joke.

For instance when I crashed the first day on my motorcycle all I ended up with was a few scrapes and a bloody knee (I even rode it back home the extra hour up the mountain!), but my mother insisted we go to the ER for possible stitches, clean up, x-rays etc. much to my objection. We waited 3+ hours, for the doctors to do nothing but over-inject my wound with a supposed "pain-killer" which did nothing (and hurt more then the actual crash!) while they scrubbed the knee with disinfectant and a plastic comb-like brush. It healed slowly which I suspect was due to the shots they gave me, and the way they handled it while trying to "clean" it. And I didn't need stitches which the x-ray confirmed, while adding to the expense bill. (and a few minutes off my life, lol)

Anyways, the point is I could have personally cared for this wound 10x better then how I was treated at a "professional establishment", with the "best" in technological health care. I was a walking meat-bag with an injury (and money!) to these people .

When it comes to keeping the foreskin clean, plain water is the answer. Soap is not needed, NOR recommended. And for people in third world countries or tribal villages where clean water may not be readily accessible, good ol' saliva is enough to clean themselves. I find it ironic I could probably keep better care of a foreskin then some who have them!

We have been lied too about our own bodies and how they work, and how we should take care of them. And they accomplished this in a very short generational period.

When OP-rah opened her show on female genital mutilation, she said "Unlike male circumcision...." thereby setting the tone for the entire show that it's OK to mutilate a male.

I think they play on the fact that most tribes who do this are using "un-clean", dirty and "primitive" tools, like peices of glass, scissors etc, so that male circumcision in hospitals is viewed from a far less "barbaric" standpoint.

It's more like a hygenic "procedure"...

f*ck, I hate how we use euphamisms in this country.

An interesting subject, got me thinking, since the practice is part of Judaism and presumably carried forward into Christianity from Judaism, then there must be some Biblical reason for circumcision. Now most people, like myself would just take this for granted without actually checking for themselves. Thanks to sites like this one you can quickly check this out for yourself.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/ … -6915.html

Circumcision occurs once in the OT
Circumcise occurs 6 times in the OT

So OK this one does appear to say cut your foreskin off, but the next occurence;

Well that would be quite difficult to actually do

Again it does not seem to be literal.

So the whole practice seems to be based on taking one verse literally, whilst ignoring others which clearly can not be taken literally. Also the original Hebrew word which is translated to circumcision may not necessarily mean what we take circumcision to mean today.

The skin removed equals 15+ square inches, because the foreskin is a double-sided skin "tube", not "flap of skin" as most would believe. Perhaps the wounds on a female are more severe from lack of actual medical implements, but the surface area removed from the penis is definitely MORE. Less surface area=less pleasure receptors...

While some females are sewn up, doctors use soldering-iron like devices to cauterize the skin together on the penis. While I can't say which is more "barbaric", the point is these things are being done to un-willing victims!*

*the only exception being willing patients, plenty of online boards dedicated to such rediculous self-mutilation, as they promote the same illogical reasons, "all girls like circumcised guys, etc."

Just because they call it a "religious practice", coming of age ritual, doesnt justify what is happening. These people have to hold down their own children so they don't run away.

The bottom line is: With proper education, no one would put themselves through this! That is WHY they do it to babies, and KIDS who are being forced upon these "rituals", who do the same thing to THEIR kids!

On the BBC news yesterday, now they calling for circumcision to prevent aids.
Although this is aimed at Africans i wonder how long before here in the UK and Europe where circumcision is very rare Doctors will be offering this to baby boys as "preventative measure"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/827835.stm

This is a very difficult subject for me. Unfortunately, I didn't "wake up" until a couple years after my son was born. My husband is cut, and every man I've ever been with has been cut, with the exception of one guy. So all my adult life, I am led to believe that this is 'normal' and being uncut is not normal.  So when my baby was born, I allowed them to circumcise him--so that he would be 'normal' and more like his daddy. Never did they explain to me the things that could go wrong and they certainly didn't tell me that it was without numbing of some sort. I signed the paper just like the good drone They want us to be, and they took my boy down the hall. I sat in the hospital room listening to babies woller and waited for my son to be brought back. As I sat there waiting, I suddenly heard him start screaming (in pain obviously). I was so upset I almost puked. I just sat there and cried and cried. They brought him back a few minutes later--still crying.  They gave him to me and I rocked him and hummed to him while we both cried. I felt absolutely horrible, and now I feel even worse, knowing what I know now--that it's totally unneccesary.
  To top it all off, I had problems getting him to nurse and the people at the hospital were not very knowledgable about the fine art of breastfeeding. It was very painful for me. The one and only lactation nurse was not very helpful. I ended up formula feeding him--and very upset about it. She calmed my fears a bit by reminding me that we would still be able to bond while I fed him, even if it was from a bottle.
  There are so many things I did wrong when I had my son, it's hard to think about.  But I guess the worst thing was the cutting. Just so he could be "normal"....  If I had to do it all again, I would have had a home birth with a midwife, he wouldn't have been cut, and I would have just dealt with the immense pain while nursing. 

On the subject of homosexuality and circumcision, I don't really see a correlation. Not to say that I'm a whore or anything, but I've been with my fair share of men throughout my adulthood and only one was not cut. Obviously the others were not gay or they would not have been with women (unless they were just in the closet or something).  Though I don't think that was the case.  And they didn't seem like the rapist kind either.  A few of them were overly sexed-up, but I thought all guys were like that

Thanks, Barefoot Doc, for the info on the flower essences. My son is only 5, so it would be hard to help him with a spiritual thing. Can you tell me how often I should administer the flower remedies? Can I just add them to his juice or something?

I've also ordered a set of Universal Harmonizers from the UK (Steve Gamble's site) for myself and my house (I have alot of attachments, but that's a whole 'nother thread!).  Do you know anything about these? I was thinking of using them on my son, too, because I think he might have some entity attachments already (because of me--again, a whole other story). So I'm wondering if they would help with the aura weakening near his sexual center from the cutting??  And do you know if I can place the harmonizers on him while he's sleeping or does he have to be awake and give his permission for this?  Thanks for any help or suggestions you might have.

Peace,
Debbie

Thanks Doc!  I appreciate the help. And thank you for the link, as well...