Re: "Revelations of the Insider" - revisited

Q by the forum owner:

I am curious what a member of an ´elite family´ thinks of GLP.

So what do you think?

A:
The more divided people are, the easier it is to rule over them.
Making them believe they have a sword in their hand which they think makes them powerful and able to fight "the dark sider" while it is just a toothpick.
You have to be very careful who you give that imaginary sword to, Trinity.

Do you know that not just spoken words but also written words emanate a frequency which have a direct effect?
And I would say that a vast majority of the written words here are not helping the cause you think you are fighting for.

Q by forum owner:
Insider,

Rather than give them a sword (or a toothpick), I give them a canvas and a pen.
The words as you say have vibration and effect.
And though yes many that are written here are contrary to the ONE, some ring true.
It is those few, that matter most.
I was recently asked by a friend of mine, "what do you do when you have mastered the game?"
This seems like a question that would apply to one in your situation as well.
My answer was, "save as many as you can".
I am curious to know, What is yours?

A:
If it has an immediate effect it is not a canvas and a pen anymore but a sword...an imaginary one but nonetheless a sword.
And it is not working the way you think it does.
You say most are contrary to the One and that is true, in fact almost all is contrary.
But you say because of the few that ring "true" it is worth it.
You cannot have 2 contrary essences at the same time/place eventhough they may have the same spring.
Which means one of the 2 is not present here....do I have to tell you which one that is?
About mastering the game.
How does one know they have mastered it?
Does someone else tell them?
See, if the "master" is not really a master yet he acts like one it will mean he will make errors.
He will have flawed thoughts and act accordingly.
People will start listening to him and adopt the flawed opinions and way of living.....eventually he will do more harm than 1 bloodline actually has the power to do personally.
Hence why "leaders" have been created for you who "have mastered their game".
Jesus of Nazareth is a nice example.
He was created, this human has many worshippers and they have murdered in his name and still do (Bush).
Jesus of Nazareth was not a master of the game, he was a puppet being used in the game and he still is serving the agenda among you.
So you might think you are saving as many as you can like him but are you really?
How would I answer the question "what do you do when you have mastered the game?"
Checkmate.

Do you know that not just spoken words but also written words emanate a frequency which have a direct effect?

An example of this would be the homeopathic "paper remedy", whereby instead of using a homeopathic remedy directly, you write down the name and potency on a piece of paper, then you place the paper on the left hand side of the body, writing towards you, leave for an hour or so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy

Yet another technique used by few homeopaths involves using "a paper remedy. Write the remedy and potency on a piece of paper and place the paper on the left hand side of the body with the writing towards the body." One homeopath, "finds out what they need, writes the remedy down on a piece of paper, they put it in their pocket and it works." In essence, this comprises an emerging alternative homeopathic tradition, "`paper remedies' i.e., a name of a remedy just written on a piece of paper."

The next step might be to write down something like "lose weight until I am my correct size", place that on the left hand side of your body, writing towards you. It's effectively an alternate method of making affirmations. The writing acts as a focus, more so than say the method that is used with "The Secret".

The writing in effect creates a "structural link"


http://www.hscti.com/

Trend-Links are radionic settings (“rates”), precision frequencies, symbols, sigils, frequency patterns, symbolic objects, devices, magickal incenses, oils, herbs, or any other structural representations. They have one thing in common: they establish a connection with a desired effect, or with the desired solution of a challenge. Sometimes such trend-links can refer to energies of a more metaphysical classification such as the effects ascribed to planets, elements, etc., all of which represent desired change, or effect. Being representatives of desires, the trend-links are sometimes viewed as modulators of life force (orgone, chi), so that the projected life force field gives inclination to a specific action.

Important! Both, the target-link and the trend-link are structural representations of either trends (desired change) or targets of your action. Actually, when you focus mentally on a person, location, desired effect, etc., your brain establishes a structural link. Naturally, such focusing can be a real challenge for you: namely that you cannot keep your focus with one and the same thing at all times. This is so, because “moving around” is one of the characteristics of our brain. Long time ago, therefore, practitioners developed methods to “freeze” these structural links. Objects that are prepared with the intent to connect to a specific target, or trend, are such links. Of recent, the radionics device with its “abstract” settings (“rates”) turned out to be an ideal tool for this purpose. More traditional and very effective tools are esoteric and archetypal symbols, which, like the setting of radionics rates, have been made with a special intent in mind. Because of the processes of abstraction and focusing that are involved, we label these symbols, radionic rates and objects “equivalent structural links” as compared to the more obvious “near-identical” or “similar structural links”.

Re: "Revelations of the Insider" - revisited

You could of course write "Who am I?" and "Where am I?". The answers would come up for you and you alone.

Just an afterthought.

153 (edited by M5 2007-05-14 03:11:50)

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Hmmm... interesting read.
i went to :  Full thread summary : and read all 48 pages , then thought about visiting 'godlikeproductions'.
I'll get a glass of water first...came back to the pc and lo and behold the computer had linked to that site so i registered smile

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Pleidian Healer wrote several pages back:

You could soul travel while sitting up meditating in a chair (which is the method taught by Eckankar).    They have you chant the name of the man who's the "master" in Eckankar, who at this time is Harold Klemp (the last time I checked anyway).   I can't remember his spiritual name, which is his soul name, but just as an example, let's say his soul name is Mahatma.   What they teach is that you sit upright, relax and chant the name Mahatma over and over, with your eyes closed and also with ALL of your focus and concentration on your third-eye/6th chakra.

Is Eckankar a good way to learn soul travel? Because most of the people I've ever met who are into it seem to be disociative in some eery kind of way. Does anyone know more about them? Are they a cult?

Pellucidar wrote:

Yet another technique used by few homeopaths involves using "a paper remedy. Write the remedy and potency on a piece of paper and place the paper on the left hand side of the body with the writing towards the body." One homeopath, "finds out what they need, writes the remedy down on a piece of paper, they put it in their pocket and it works." In essence, this comprises an emerging alternative homeopathic tradition, "`paper remedies' i.e., a name of a remedy just written on a piece of paper."

and also wrote about radionics machines. I had a dream that someone (whom I told to not have any contact with me) wrote a message on paper and put it in the well of a machine. Could I have been picking up a real event on the astral plane of a person sending me a message by radionics machine?

-lala

don't judge a book by its name

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Finding anything decent on that site is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Sometimes good just for entertainment purposes.

156 (edited by Lono 2007-05-14 20:15:27)

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The post I had made here was for a totally different thread.  Sorry. yikes

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Well it seems to me that the 'insider' is distorting knowledge giving you just enough to get you hooked and than taking you for a ride. That's fine if you want to follow the flight plan of there is more truth in lies. Again we run into the blame the victim. The abuser feels it is their right to abuse and that the victim is asking for it and even wants it. Would not a parasite that is making its host sick not blame the host for being weak? What's happening is that we are predators with predators. So all is one here in its subversiveness. To me all that is in its various ways is in trouble from no one but itself if it wants to split itself up go into amnesia than it runs the huge risk of destroying itself completely or lowering its quality at the very least.

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lala wrote:

Is Eckankar a good way to learn soul travel? Because most of the people I've ever met who are into it seem to be disociative in some eery kind of way. Does anyone know more about them? Are they a cult?

I don't know too much about them myself, I have been wondering the same thing, if anyone here knows more.  I used to have a book written by an Eckist/hypnotherapist called Soul Never Sleeps.  The author Marian Massie told her life story and described some Eck philosophy in the book too.  She ran away from home as a teenager to escape a dysfunctional family and that's how she ended up joining Eckankar, which is pretty typical for how people find their way into cults.  Later I went to her for hypnotherapy, right after I quit college.  I was very uncomfortable with it and felt like I was wasting my money so I walked out in the middle of the third session.  She just let me go, didn't try to talk me out of quitting, and never pushed Eckankar on me, but I had the feeling that she was deeply brainwashed and I didn't want to "catch it" LOL. 

One thing she told me that always stuck in my mind, was when she first joined Eck, she had a lot of difficulty following their methods.  She kept falling asleep while meditating, her consciousness kept pulling her down, and she had to fight hard to overcome it.  I think she described it like the mentality she was brought up with in her family kept interfering with her ability to go higher - which is normal and makes sense - but the number of hours she told me she was required to sit and meditate seemed really ridiculous to me.  I was thinking, no wonder she kept falling asleep, it was probably just her body telling her to get the hell out of there!  It sounded like it too way too much self-control.

I gave the book away years ago so I don't remember too many details, but the information about soul planes was interesting.  In Eck contemplation is the method for raising awareness into higher soul planes.  Contemplation is an active form of meditation, where you chant or hum and focus on going higher, rather than just passively emptying your mind.  According to Eck you can hear certain sounds associated with the different soul planes, like humming of electrical wires, buzzing of bees, running of water.  I experienced this a few times and it was amazing, but for whatever reason I didn't feel motivated to continue doing it.  I was really interested in soul travel but I got spooked really badly once and quit trying it.  I'd love to try it again because it was really working for me. 

I don't know if the Eck methods in themselves are bad, what I read in her book was not in-depth, just basic information.  From what I understand their entire philosophy mostly plagiarizes other religions anyway.  I wouldn't consider joining their group, because I don't go for that sort of thing, and they have been named as a major cult by several organizations.  And I think even when you are following a group's methods outside of the group, entirely on your own, there is still some risk of getting caught up in their group on other levels of awareness.  Cults can control people from the higher/inner planes just as well as in the physical world, better actually.  But I had more success with their methods than I've had with anything else.  I'm just extremely wary of gaining spiritual knowledge/abilities through any kind of organization.

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Athenais wrote;

One thing she told me that always stuck in my mind, was when she first joined Eck, she had a lot of difficulty following their methods.  She kept falling asleep while meditating, her consciousness kept pulling her down, and she had to fight hard to overcome it.  I think she described it like the mentality she was brought up with in her family kept interfering with her ability to go higher - which is normal and makes sense - but the number of hours she told me she was required to sit and meditate seemed really ridiculous to me.  I was thinking, no wonder she kept falling asleep, it was probably just her body telling her to get the hell out of there!  It sounded like it too way too much self-control.

Thanks Athenais! You actually know quite a bit about it and have inferred much from your experience of it.-lala

don't judge a book by its name

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lala wrote:

and also wrote about radionics machines. I had a dream that someone (whom I told to not have any contact with me) wrote a message on paper and put it in the well of a machine. Could I have been picking up a real event on the astral plane of a person sending me a message by radionics machine?

In the absence of a blood spot, hair, nail pairing, photo or an object that belonged to that person, then their name on a piece of paper would probably work.

I would imagine that the reptilians would insert some of their implants via radionics. Based on some of the dreams that I've had over the last 15 years or so (when I could remember them) that was how they managed to implant so many into me. Though I've been steadily clearing them over the last 6 months or so and I can now start to think properly for myself again. At least I can now recognize an implanted thought and ignore it until it has been cleared out.

161 (edited by treehugger 2007-05-15 04:32:04)

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lala wrote:

Pleidian Healer wrote several pages back:

You could soul travel while sitting up meditating in a chair (which is the method taught by Eckankar).    They have you chant the name of the man who's the "master" in Eckankar, who at this time is Harold Klemp (the last time I checked anyway).   I can't remember his spiritual name, which is his soul name, but just as an example, let's say his soul name is Mahatma.   What they teach is that you sit upright, relax and chant the name Mahatma over and over, with your eyes closed and also with ALL of your focus and concentration on your third-eye/6th chakra.

Is Eckankar a good way to learn soul travel? Because most of the people I've ever met who are into it seem to be disociative in some eery kind of way. Does anyone know more about them? Are they a cult?

Pellucidar wrote:

Yet another technique used by few homeopaths involves using "a paper remedy. Write the remedy and potency on a piece of paper and place the paper on the left hand side of the body with the writing towards the body." One homeopath, "finds out what they need, writes the remedy down on a piece of paper, they put it in their pocket and it works." In essence, this comprises an emerging alternative homeopathic tradition, "`paper remedies' i.e., a name of a remedy just written on a piece of paper."

and also wrote about radionics machines. I had a dream that someone (whom I told to not have any contact with me) wrote a message on paper and put it in the well of a machine. Could I have been picking up a real event on the astral plane of a person sending me a message by radionics machine?

-lala

Lala;
I joined Eckankar back in the early '80's.  I guess it would have been considered a "new age religion" back  at that time. I was only involved with it for about 4 yrs.   The thing with Eckankar..1. you had to pay $ for the discourses at that time. You were told you could share it with family members, but no one else, or any spiritual headway you made would instantly be wiped away. 2. Once you made 2nd initiation, which was done after 2yrs of the discourses, you were asked to teach satsang classes. Plus write a written report to the Mahanta, or Living Eck master ( who I believe is still Harold Klemp) once a month. 3. Paul Twitchell who founded Eckankar, basically stole  most everthing from other belief systems. Not good for people that were really into it, to find out your whole belief system was ripped off and thrown together. 4. You are also told, that if you leaave the path of Eck, you will have a very shitty life, because the Mahanta will no longer protect you.5.They talked about not needing a church in order to commune with the Sugmad (god), yet they built a huge, expensive, temple in Minnesota. 6. Followers were encouraged to attend the conventions, to recieve, the "darshan", which is recieved from the gaze of the living eck master. I guess, sort of an energy exchange. You were also encouraged to keep a photo of him around the house. How icky is that??

The whole basis of learning "soul travel" was to learn to navigate the astral realms and above, with the Mahanta's guidance, so that when you died, you could avoid the "wheel of karma", or reincarnation, and all the other trappings in the other realms.  Yes, you meditated while sitting up, just like in other meditation techniques. The difference is, you are traveling around in your soul body, instead of your astral body. I will say this, I had some interesting adventures in other realms, very lucid dreams. The second yr of discourse, is strictly on dreams.  My leaving was because of the restrictions and the contradictions that kept coming up. Plus, things just didnt seem right, and my intuition was telling me to move on. When I reached my second intitiation (you have one on the inner, and one on the outer with a Madhi, a person of the fifth intiation) they sent me a pink paper, saying Ive reached my intiation (I had it on the inner first, thats when you notify "headquarters" that your ready for the outer)and had all these RULES, and Im thinking, WTF! Plus  while reading Twitchell's books, I noticed there were just too many tiimes he contradicted himself. A lot to me was not making sense, and quite frankly, a lot of it was unattainable for someone living in this 3d realm.  Just like anything else, I think there were truths thrown in here and there. And I did gain some valuable experience and insight that I might not have otherwise.  Twitchell brought all this out in the '60's, and some of his works, pertaining to the astral realms, match up with some things that Kyle Griffith says in WIH.
Hope that helped.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

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Pellucidar wrote:

In the absence of a blood spot, hair, nail pairing, photo or an object that belonged to that person, then their name on a piece of paper would probably work.

I would imagine that the reptilians would insert some of their implants via radionics. Based on some of the dreams that I've had over the last 15 years or so (when I could remember them) that was how they managed to implant so many into me. Though I've been steadily clearing them over the last 6 months or so and I can now start to think properly for myself again. At least I can now recognize an implanted thought and ignore it until it has been cleared out.

Thanks, Pellucidar, I do believe that I've been the target of radionics remote influencing. How do you clear these implanted thoughts? How do you recognize them?-lala

And treehugger: Thank you, that was so very helpful. I am understanding a lot of things that have been going on in my life from what people are saying. For one thing, I see that if a person is into this
EcK stuff, they are basically an open relay for really manipulative people with strong psi powers. This is why I haven't been able to work constructively in a certain group that I was involved in. The Eck person was always a puppet of an egotistical STS manipulator. That would fit.-lala

don't judge a book by its name

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http://membres.lycos.fr/ebooksforfree/e … Manual.pdf

try the above download lala

164 (edited by lala 2007-05-15 15:17:01)

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Mr., you have just been the agent sent to answer a prayer:)-lala

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Oh yick-is that why everything is so weird, they are all using all these mind power seduction techniques on people? How awful, it is worse than I even imagined because now the general population thinks it has the right to create remote sex slaves through thought entrainment. Too bad.-lala

don't judge a book by its name