Re: Right Effectiveness

pokerboy101381 wrote:

I'm looking for love here.

A loving person, at times, is like a lifeguard.

You have to wait until the drowning person has used up all his energy before you jump in the water to save him.....

...... otherwise he will drag them both down.








I think you're still taking on water.

Re: Right Effectiveness

About being right or wrong........

I would like to point out that usually there's at least one perspective from which EVERYONE is right about EVERYTHING.  However depending on your perspective, EVERYONE can also be WRONG about everything at exactly the same time. And everything in between. All combinations and variations in these perspectives create the realities and energy exchanges we call "LIFE". It's these arguments which are the driving force of life (and the destructive force at the same time.) It's up to us to enjoy (love) or dislike (hate) these arguments and their results. That is the essence of freewill - the choice of how to view the circumstances (right, wrong?) we've been handed. In that sense, we do truly create our own reality. As living beings we are in many ways a manifestation of the combination of all our arguments and a result of how we choose to handle the outcome.

The first person who agrees with me proves this point. Likewise, the first person who disagrees with me proves this point. So I am always right and wrong at the same time. Impossible.......? Possible........? Is an argument also an agreement at the same time?

Ultimately being right or wrong (on/off, up/down, in/out, 1/0, hot/cold, exists/does not exist, everything/nothing, or any of the other infinite ways you want to say it) is irrelevant, even though it's everything. The meaning of the word EVERYTHING (i.e. infinity) is key. So many arguments, so much time..............


That's what I love about reading this forum - lots of farout ideas that make sense, and don't make sense, all at the same time. I love it all. Even the parts I don't like.

"My shadow weighs 42 pounds......."
-Weird Al Yankovic

Re: Right Effectiveness

J-Dub said:   "The first person who agrees with me proves this point. Likewise, the first person who disagrees with me proves this point. So I am always right and wrong at the same time. Impossible.......? Possible........? Is an argument also an agreement at the same time?

"Ultimately being right or wrong (on/off, up/down, in/out, 1/0, hot/cold, exists/does not exist, everything/nothing, or any of the other infinite ways you want to say it) is irrelevant, even though it's everything."

This is amazing! Astounding! Superb mental masterbation. Baffle 'em with bullsh*t. I have truly never seen the whole New Age philosophy so well expounded in two short paragraphs. Congratulations.

I can guarantee you, a lot of people here in the Forum can see right thru that. And now, my condolences -- you just signed up for another tour of earth.

roll

Il faut tout voir de la hauteur de 40,000 pieds.

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Re: Right Effectiveness

Zarg wrote:

Consider:

If you are in Las Vegas, you are in a sea of different energies, which may not be conducive to focusing, much less spiritual growth --- Las Vegas, spiritual? The two go together like the words Jumbo Shrimp. Same for Dallas where I live -- couldn't be a worse vibration in the country for personal growth.

Don't get caught up in the right-wrong trap; i.e, that "there is no right or wrong, everyting's relative"... New Age gibble. But it is better to be appropriate than right or wrong...
Consider that you can be right and lose.
Consider that you can be wrong and be effective.
Consider that you can be right and be ineffective...
so what's the deal?  Try paying attention to what your intention is -- it precedes right, wrong, or appropriate. And it is by that that you 'judge' yourself... i.e., "create your reality".

Cheers

Why you dogging vegas , man?!   I'ma haveta pop a cap in ya now yo!  ;-)

The words Jumbo Shrimp do go together.   In the world of shrimp, they are indeed jumbo. 

It's not so much where your at, it's who you are.    Growth can be achieved anywhere.....ya just gotta catch the vibe.   The vibe is not gonna catch you.

Personally....I choose not to live in a bubble(yet?).  I'm a fool, No joke.

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Re: Right Effectiveness

Zarg wrote:

I can guarantee you, a lot of people here in the Forum can see right thru that. And now, my condolences -- you just signed up for another tour of earth.

roll

hehehehe...you may as well just said he sinned and is now going to hell!  lmao!

What's wrong with Earth?  It's a wonderful tool....just like anything else can be.   When he is ready to "leave"....he will.  No sooner, no later.

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Re: Right Effectiveness

Sin? Hell?  ...what's that? J-DUB would say it's all in the eye of the beholder... but now I understand... Aha!, you are Insider's shadow side.

Thou hast spake thusly:  I'ma haveta pop a cap in ya now yo!

So, bro wha dat be? Why doos dat in de Vegas make it like drag? Smoke it like granny in de garden!  Yo, 'chupto?

Ciao

Il faut tout voir de la hauteur de 40,000 pieds.

Re: Right Effectiveness

Zarg wrote:

Thou hast spake thusly:  I'ma haveta pop a cap in ya now yo!

I know I am going to get smacked for this, but I can't resist:

E.B. White wrote:

"Do not dress words up by adding 'ly' to them, as though putting a hat on a horse."

- The Elements of Style (1959)

I first read that quote years ago, and I still it's funny.  big_smile

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Re: Right Effectiveness

What's wrong with a hat on a horse?  How else can you tell which one is the driver?

Remember the words of Master Fu Ling:   He who stand on toilet, high on pot!

Ciao

Il faut tout voir de la hauteur de 40,000 pieds.

Re: Right Effectiveness

J_dub wrote:

About being right or wrong........

I would like to point out that usually there's at least one perspective from which EVERYONE is right about EVERYTHING.  However depending on your perspective, EVERYONE can also be WRONG about everything at exactly the same time. And everything in between. All combinations and variations in these perspectives create the realities and energy exchanges we call "LIFE". It's these arguments which are the driving force of life (and the destructive force at the same time.) It's up to us to enjoy (love) or dislike (hate) these arguments and their results. That is the essence of freewill - the choice of how to view the circumstances (right, wrong?) we've been handed. In that sense, we do truly create our own reality. As living beings we are in many ways a manifestation of the combination of all our arguments and a result of how we choose to handle the outcome.

The first person who agrees with me proves this point. Likewise, the first person who disagrees with me proves this point. So I am always right and wrong at the same time. Impossible.......? Possible........? Is an argument also an agreement at the same time?

Ultimately being right or wrong (on/off, up/down, in/out, 1/0, hot/cold, exists/does not exist, everything/nothing, or any of the other infinite ways you want to say it) is irrelevant, even though it's everything. The meaning of the word EVERYTHING (i.e. infinity) is key. So many arguments, so much time..............


That's what I love about reading this forum - lots of farout ideas that make sense, and don't make sense, all at the same time. I love it all. Even the parts I don't like.

Hmmm...

Actually, I was going for the multi-dimensional awareness thing, while assuming a singular-personal perspective.

Simplicity.

If you're right, but not effective, then nothing gets done.

If you're effective, but not right, then tyranny results.

If you're ineffective and not right, you will eventually be replaced by someone better.

So to be both right and effective at the same time would seem to be the best choice for most occasions. Sometimes options are not available, or if they are available, they cannot be utilized properly. In these situations, consider the alternatives which preserve the most options for being both and right to the greatest degree which can be reasonably achieved. If you should find yourself going against the path of least resistance, take heart, since you're probably on the right track.

The problem is that nobody can see beyond the choices that they can understand. Then again, sometimes this is done for their own protection. lol