Re: The Heart's Pledge (or how to get beyond conspiracy theories)

ermolai wrote:

Rudolf Steiner prophetized that, in the future, mankind will be split in two, one side with the robotized masses part of the New World Order, and another side with spiritual men and women who will get together in communities and develop their own moral technology, forming a network of light in the middle of darkness which is electromagnetically protected.

Hi Ermolai, I agree with the idea of getting beyond conspiracy theories and even getting beyond the idea that you have to get beyond getting beyond.
That's not why I responded, I was curious about the exact origin of Steiner's prophecy you mentioned, do you know where and when?

the eyes of truth are always watching you

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Re: The Heart's Pledge (or how to get beyond conspiracy theories)

On the importance of physical interaction, I found the following relevant in Dolores Cannon's book "The Convoluted Universe, Book Two":

I took him ahead to an important day in that lifetime [after the Atlantean deluge] in order to progress the story.

M: We have found a place to store the crystals, and the scrolls. We feel that we can rest now that we don't have to worry about their well-being at all times. We have shared some of the information, but these people are not ready for all of it. So we must take these things and put them away for now.

   When I asked where they had hidden them, he became apprehensive. I had to convince him that I was no threat, that it was safe to tell me.

M: It's stored away ... it's within a pyramid. But it's almost an inter-dimensional type of storage area. It's not one that could be found unless you know how to access it. You would not easily see it, or know that it was there. It will take certain energies for the items to become noticeable. For them to appear. The items are physical, but they are stored in like ... an area with ... it's like they're there, but you can't see them. It's like an inter-dimensional space. A box that we have put them into and then closed. And only certain energies can open the door to this, and then they would be visible.

D:    Is this inter-dimensional space something you knew how to create?

M: I had help from some of the others that survived, and we met up eventually.
By working together we were able to create this space.

D:    So it's not a physical place within the pyramid.

M: It is a physical place, but it's like it's invisible. It's there. And as long as it's sealed ...
a person cannot just walk by and see it. It has to be a certain mental energy, knowledge,
and even some symbology, some symbols are needed in order to open this.

D:    But is it like you put it in a wall?

M:   Yes, it's similar to that. It's like on the inside of one of the
large stones. It's there, but you can see no way to get inside
of it. There's no indication that it's there.

D:    There's no way to physically open it.

M: That is correct. You couldn't physically open it. It has to be done with energy.
It has to be a certain thought pattern. And it has to be the right person with the
symbols. They have to carry in their energy field these symbols that are needed
to unlock the stone.

D:    It's not physical symbols that they know about?

M:   Before coming into carnation. Before being carnated here, they were aware
of that, and the symbols were in their energy field.

D:    So they were put there before the person was incarnated?

M: Yes. And sometimes they had to earn them. They had to learn certain things or
go through certain tests for those symbols to become functioning. To be activated.
In order for them to work. So maybe if the same person was at the right spot at
the certain time, nothing may have happened. They needed learning. But now if they
had achieved certain things in this lifetime. If they had passed certain tests showing
their true intentions, their good intentions, then that would activate these symbols in
their energy field. And if they were to go there, then they would be allowed to open
this. To know where to go. And with their mental thoughts it would open like a key.
And there's more than one person with these. There has to be many, in case one fails.

D: That would make sense. When people incarnate, do they have certain symbols
that are put into their... spirit, aura or whatever?

M: Yes, we all carry those. And that's how sometimes we compliment each other,
or we recognize each other. We don't see them with our physical eyes, but our body
knows it, or our energy field knows it. And we may experience certain sensations.
There's either revulsion or attraction, or feeling of well-being.

D: So these symbols are important. (Yes) Are these symbols created on the spirit
side? (Pause)  / wondered where they come from. Who decides to put them into the
... I guess aura field,for lack of a better word?

M: They are part of the universal mind. The universal intelligence. And they coincide
with what our life plan is before we are incarnated. They are like keys throughout our
life. If we go to a certain spot or a certain place, if we meet a certain individual, and
the key fits in the lock. Or the two symbols merge. Or opposing symbols. They'll help
us to know what we should do. Sometimes it can unlock memories. Sometimes it can
trigger a response within us that helps us to make decisions, and change our life. Our
life styles, our life decisions. So they're almost like a little guidance system. That at a
certain time it can be activated and help us know what to do, when to do.

D: But these are things that the average person doesn't know about, and we're
not aware of.

M:   No, but we all have them.

D:   And usually you can't see them or know they're there.

M: Some people are able to, but most of us cannot see with our eyes.

D:    Tou just get feelings, instincts.

M:   Yes, yes. That's it.

D: That's important. And that means that symbols are very important to the universal mind.

M:   That is correct. It's a universal language.

If this is true, then I wonder whether virtual interaction, over phone or internet, is
adequate to allow symbols between different people to mingle. I would say yes,
partially, although physical interaction may be more potent and efficient.

A couple things lead me to believe this:

1) I can feel the vibes of people at the other end of an email, forum post, or website,

2) I know that people on the net can be energetically infected by matrix puppets with
extremely low vibes sent specifically to engage them emotionally in order to pry open
a channel for contamination, and

3) through certain interactions online I have experienced insights that feel like something
unlocking within solely due to that interaction.

Experience tells me the first two are more potent and effective in person, therefore
I assume that the third would be as well.

Should also add that talented clairvoyants claim to see thoughtforms and archetypal
symbols within the auric field, and in the Castaneda books there was at least one
mention of him seeing geometric symbols inside the energy cocoon of others.

(Hah...that part about "They'll help us to know what we should do. Sometimes it
can unlock memories. Sometimes it can trigger a response within us that helps
us to make decisions, and change our life." -- reminds me of the movie eXistenZ
where scripted interactions, phrases, and behaviors came impulsively to the players
to advance the virtual game.)

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

Re: The Heart's Pledge (or how to get beyond conspiracy theories)

That's especially interesting considering how various UFO abductees have stated they have experienced seeing symbols flashing rapidly through their mind.   If these symbols are indeed mental "keys," and they are being downloaded into some people, what does that imply?  Is it a natural process of spiritual evolution, or simply an action being performed by the aliens for practical reasons?    Could it be both?