Re: Who Built the Moon?!

^^^

Now THAT'S a post!  smile

What especially stood out for me in this post was:

montalk wrote:

......things are just a bit too clean. And not only clean, but seeming organized in an intelligent manner.......There, you transcend the ancient astronaut theory and get into the realm of transdimensional timeline engineering by hyperdimensional intelligences. In my various reading there has emerged consistent clues about some type of technology capable of editing our reality at the root level.

The first veil to waking up in this reality is to notice that the world's power structures are organized under the heading of the "Illuminati", "Brotherhood", etc.

The next veil is to acknowledge non-human hands being involved in this orchestration.

The next beyond that is to acknowledge that these non-human hands aren't in the tradition of what the mainstream "fringe" would have us believe - ie, the "ancient astronaut" theory.   We're looking at something hyperdimensional...something "capable of editing our reality at the root level."

It's important to emphasis this I think.  And it's at this point where most people get lost.  If they're lucky, and they are extra weird and unusual, they may get to the point of believing in non-human behind the scenes manipulators.  Not too many realize just how crazy it actually gets though!   "But wait!  There's more!"



montalk wrote:

They cryptically implied that this device is meant to stay buried because rather than needing to be transported across ground, it moves the ground across it. In other words, it reshapes physical reality accordingly.

This is VERY reminiscent of the movie "Dark City."  Something from literally, underneath the city would reform and change the city every night at midnight during "Tuning"; people's realities and memories were also altered.

"Dark City" to me is still the most accurate in terms of representing what seems to be happening in this reality, more so than The Matrix and all the rest.   smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Here is a related article titled Scientific Accuracy of the Bible

http://100777.com/node/534


And here is a few interesting paragraph about the cubit and the meter from http://greatpyramid.org/aip/gr-pyr2.htm


"...In an appendix to Peter Tompkin's popular book, The Secrets of the Great Pyramid, is an appendix about ancient Egyptian measures. People can marvel at how "advanced" this system of measures is. But the very concept of "advancement" implies that the roots of the Egyptian science were gleaned from former "lower" civilizations which were before the Egyptian. But that is simply not the case. The Bible makes it abundantly plain that Noah's son Ham was the father of Egypt.1 Noah was the recipient of the advanced knowledge that had come into the world through revelation to the patriarchs before him, especially through Enoch and Adam. Noah used much of this advanced knowledge in construction of the ark, which he built according to the divinely ordained cubit, the basis of the ark's design.2 The cubit is mentioned also in the book of Revelation:

    (Rev 21:17) And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

It is mentioned as the unit used by angels. The cubit is a measurement standard from out of this world, used by angels in Heaven. How interesting that the cubit shows itself to be a more rational and scientifically accurate standard than the metric system! When the French savants who invented the metric system chose a standard for that system, they took the one ten millionth part of a meridian from the North Pole to the equator through--where else?--Paris. Ta da! The meter is born...

The problem with this is not only that the meridian through Paris3 is different than all other meridians, but is also subject to change as the topography changes. On the other hand, the sacred cubit is the one ten millionth part of the earth's semi-polar axis, a radius from the center of the earth to the North Pole. This semi-axis does not vary as would a meridian, whether through Greenwich or Paris. If the ancient Egyptians designed the cubit based on the earth's semi-polar axis, and the French scientists--cream of the crop of the Age of Enlightenment, the flower of modernity--did so based on a Parisienne meridian, one has to wonder if evolution is running in reverse. Of course it is more likely that the Creator is the One who designed the cubit to be in direct relation to the planet for which it was meant to be a standard.

The Bible says in eight different places that the Ten Commandments --God's moral standard, just as the cubit (and its corresponding inch) is a linear standard-- were written with "the finger of God," not the genius of Moses. It is a distinctly modern idea that humans can make their own standards, whether moral or linear. This is certainly the prevailing ethic in the schoolroom today. Students take it as an a priori, unquestionable law of the universe that truth is what each individual perceives it to be. Alan Bloom tells us that almost every one of his college students believes this.4 This would have been unthinkable in ancient Egypt.

http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.info
The MOST important book on the planet?

18 (edited by lyra 2005-12-29 19:14:06)

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Well, I don't feel it's related in the least bit. 

This is a topic concerning the moon, and you're writing about / quoting excerpts from / posting links to material pertaining to the bible, religion, and the cubit.  And one of those links is to your own website, no less.  It seems more like trying to find a way to plug your own material, but in a thread where it doesn't even fit.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Dear Lyra,

The article about science and the bible, and the interesting tidbit about the cubit unit being much more rational and scientifically accurate really popped into my mind whilst reading about all the "mathematical messages" and other "coincidences" related to the moon and the planets etc. Another thing is the golden ratio, and another the "Bible Code".

The relation is that these things give us clues of an incredibly "ingelligent design" of the universe. Not just a big... bang? and then evolution of lifeforms on planet earth->humanbeings like so many of the so called scientists want us to believe in. This is by the way what The Bible says about evolution (http://jahtruth.net/evolut.htm):

Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the WATERS  bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.


As for plugging; what I wish most of all, is that everyone could find their way to my teacher's site and read his book "The Way home or face The Fire". (It's not about organized religion with churches, silly priests with expensive frocks and idiotic rituals)


lyra wrote:

Well, I don't feel it's related in the least bit. 

This is a topic concerning the moon, and you're writing about / quoting excerpts from / posting links to material pertaining to the bible, religion, and the cubit.  And one of those links is to your own website, no less.  It seems more like trying to find a way to plug your own material, but in a thread where it doesn't even fit.

http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.info
The MOST important book on the planet?

20 (edited by alushe 2005-12-30 05:30:16)

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The moon influences the waves in the sea of humanity just as much as it does the ocean.

You're staring at yourself
I'm kicking down the walls
For all is naught

Re: Who Built the Moon?!

http://www.rumormillnews.com/SOUL%20CAT … DENDUM.htm

http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit_page3.html

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid … towers.htm

I am as is Void.

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But it does prove...........none of this was an accident, that's for sure.  The rest of the solar system doesn't seem to have mathematical configurations like this.

I know we are talking about the Moon, and it's relationhip to Earth and the Sun but I do recall a website a few years back written by a man showing that indeed all the planets in our solar system are mathematically interrelated and he did go into very explicit detail to prove his point that i saved it on floppy disc ~ where ever that could be....
Point being that you undoubtedly will find that even every atom has indeed been mathematically calculated by the creator.

23 (edited by Tom Paine 2006-08-20 12:44:53)

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Hey lyra and google---thank you for posting this!

google--wow!  This is the first time I've seen the information on Iapetus.  Death Star indeed!
I downloaded the whole thing. 

xenopope---thanks for your links too, downloaded them.

cybe--nice try.  No cigar.

I have always thought that the fact that we were seeded here by a pre-existing race.
None of this explains our ultimate beginnings, but it sure makes sense of how we
got where we currently reside.

TP

24 (edited by J_dub 2006-08-21 09:24:21)

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Perhaps.:

We are currently developing the engineering specifications of our own solar system. Then, in the future when we are able to travel back through time, we will implement our tested and proven design and insert at the beginning. That is (part of) our job assigned by the Creator(s). Please continue to provide input, your ideas are valuable and will be submitted for consideration...........

Enjoy your new dream home.

We are the pre-existing race.

"My shadow weighs 42 pounds......."
-Weird Al Yankovic

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Montalk--Thank you for the Focault's Pendulum excerpt.  I must've skipped over your post
while I was at work.  When I read Focault's Pendulum I guess I was napping through that
particular passage!  I'm glad you brought it up again.  What goes on on earth sometimes
only makes sense with really BIZAARE explanations which are totally outside the box
(of what we think we know!)

Re: Who Built the Moon?!

there is no way that the Moon could have been captured by Earth. 

the lies and deception continue to dissolve; the Moon was directed here by {something} intelligent.

for what purpose? as we all know it has strong effects {control} on our life and one can only speculate what else it serves (civilization, military base, ... much worse?)

once again, science is completely wrong on a subject and I wonder what is the truth regarding the Sun.

is the Moon the highly speculated Planet X???

27 (edited by lyra 2007-01-18 07:05:31)

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Just discovered that Christopher Knight, one of the authors of "Who Built the Moon" gave an interview for New Dawn Magazine last June:   http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/ … _Moon.html

New Dawn Magazine wrote:

Who Built the Moon?

An Interview With Christopher Knight

Many New Dawn readers will know of British writer Christopher Knight from his first book The Hiram Key, which he co-authored with Robert Lomas and published in 1996.

Quickly becoming a best seller, The Hiram Key was acclaimed a classic in the field of alternative history, going on to influence a generation of researchers among them The Da Vinci Code’s Dan Brown.

In the last ten years Knight has written six books, four with Robert Lomas and two, including his latest Who Built the Moon?, with Alan Butler.

In Who Built the Moon?, Knight and Butler raise some fascinating and challenging questions, foremost: Could it be that the Moon is artificial? Could it even be hollow? And does the Moon really exist through some happy accident, or is a blueprint apparent – and if so, who was the architect?

New Dawn recently spoke with Christopher Knight about his controversial new book and his astonishing conclusions.

– New Dawn


NEW DAWN: All of mankind’s visits to the Moon have not answered some of the most basic questions about its origin and importance. Your new book Who Built the Moon? (co-authored with Alan Butler) brings to light some extraordinary facts about the Moon, and comes to a mind-blowing conclusion about its origin. Could you briefly outline some of these little known and ignored facts?

CHRISTOPHER KNIGHT: The Moon sits very close to the Earth yet it is widely regarded as the strangest object in the known universe. It is a bit like knowing that every person in the world is completely normal except the person you live next door to, who has three heads and lives on a diet of broken razor blades.

The book lists the strangeness of the Moon, which includes the fact that it does not have a solid core like every other planetary object. It is either hollow or has a very low-density interior. Bizarrely, its concentration of mass are located at a series of points just under its surface – which caused havoc with early lunar spacecraft. The material the Moon is made from came from the outer surface of the Earth and left a shallow hole that filled with water and we now call the Pacific. This rock left the Earth to produce the Moon very quickly after our planet had formed around 4,6 billion years ago.

The Moon is not only extremely odd in its construction; it also behaves in a way that is nothing less than miraculous. It is exactly four hundred times smaller than the Sun but four hundred times closer to the Earth so that both the Sun and the Moon appear to be precisely the same size in the sky – which gives us the phenomenon we call a total eclipse. Whilst we take this for granted it has been called the biggest coincidence in the universe.

Furthermore, the Moon mirrors the movement of the Sun in the sky by rising and setting at the same point on the horizon as the Sun does at opposite solstices. For example, this means the Moon rises at midwinter at the same place the Sun does at midsummer. There is no logical reason why the Moon mimics the Sun in this way and it is only meaningful to a human standing on the Earth.

ND: What led you to write Who Built the Moon? And does this latest book relate to your earlier research when writing Civilization One and Uriel’s Machine?

CK:   All of the six books I have had published over the last ten years are part of a continued single piece of research. I came to write Who Built the Moon? with Alan Butler after we had finished Civilization One, because our research led us to study the Moon very closely.

We had found that the superbly advanced measuring system in use over 5,000 years ago was based on the mass, dimensions and movements of the Earth.

However, for thoroughness we checked every planet and moon in the solar system to see if there was any pattern. Amazingly, it worked perfectly for every aspect of the Moon but did not apply at all to any other known body – except the Sun.

It was as though we had found a blueprint where the Moon had been ‘manufactured’ using very specific units taken from Earth’s relationship with the Sun. The more we looked, everything fitted – and fitted perfectly in every conceivable way.

ND: Most astoundingly, you found that an ancient system of geometry and measurement used in the Stone Age works perfectly on the Moon. What exactly is this system and how could the ancients have attained this knowledge?

CK:   It is not possible to describe the greatness of this ancient system of geometry and measurement without repeating the content of Civilization One.

The work of Alexander Thom, a brilliant professor of engineering from Oxford University, was our starting point. He identified the existence of what he called the Megalithic Yard. This was a precise unit of measurement that was the basis of late Stone Age structures across Western Europe – such as Stonehenge. Most archaeologists have written his work off as a mistake but when one looks coldly at their objections they are baseless.

Alan and I were able to show how they made these highly precise linear units based on the rotation of the Earth and how they were also the basis of all time, capacity and weight units in use today. Once again these are exact – not approximations or close fits.

Where the ancients got such knowledge is quite baffling. All we can be certain of is that they were way ahead of us today! It’s easy to check out by anyone with a calculator.

ND: Your conclusion is there are more than enough anomalies about the Moon to suggest it is not a naturally occurring body and was quite possibly engineered to sustain life on Earth. How did you reach this conclusion?

CK:   Not only is the Moon an apparently impossible object, it has some unique benefits for us humans. It has been nothing less than an incubator for life. If the Moon was not exactly the size, mass and distance that it has been at each stage of the Earth’s evolution – there would be no intelligent life here. Scientists are agreed that we owe everything to the Moon.

It acts as a stabiliser that holds our planet at just the right angle to produce the seasons and keep water liquid across most of the planet. Without our Moon the Earth would be as dead and solid as Venus.

ND:  If the Moon is an artificial construct, what are your theories on who or what built it, and why?

CK:   In Who Built the Moon? we explain that we could not come to any other conclusion than the Moon is artificial. Because it is certain that it is 4.6 billion years old that raises some interesting points.  Another factor was the obvious message that has been built into the Moon to tell us it’s artificial. The language of the message is base ten arithmetic so it looks as though it is directed to a ten digit species that is living on Earth right now – which seems to mean humans.

The question of why the Moon had to be built is easy to answer: To produce all life, especially humans. As to who did it – well that’s a lot tougher! We give the three possibilities we can think of, namely: God, aliens or humans. The only one of these that is 100% scientifically possible is the last one. Time travel is universally accepted as being physically possible and a number of scientists are close to sending matter back in time. We can envisage that machines could be built in the future that could be sent back to remove matter from the young Earth to construct the Moon – probably using mini black hole technology.

Sums up the book much better than I did!  big_smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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http://www.bbso.njit.edu/espr/sci_images/composite_earth1_red.gif

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Also, Consider the John Lash / Gnostic Premise that the Earth<>Moon<>Sun<>System

Was Of Pleromic Design

And ‘happened’ INTO what is currently the archonic matrix / distortion.......

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I was just in the car and heard about two minutes of John Lear's appearance on Coast to Coast AM.  He apparently has a new website called TheLivingMoon.com.  I haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but it might be of interest to readers of this thread.