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Has anyone seen the 1976 movie "Network?" Most people my age probably haven't. It's very much about what Lyra and others are talking about here ... except it was a movie showing where this trend was at 30 years ago ... it's frightening, really, to see how this has been going on already as long as I've been alive.
hi guys
i highly reccomend everyone goes to see "March of the Penguins"
it doesnt have conspiracies, it doesnt have aliens, heck- it doesnt have one frame of computer animation or special effects...
...but this movie/documentary will truly touch your soul.
i loved it.
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Some interesting tidbits from that Willy Wanker movie:
The oompa-loompas are all genetically alike, like clones. I think that Willy Wonka is supposed to signify Lucifer in this new one, and the little oompys are grays or some such. They desire the coco bean, which is portrayed as the physical creation... I think. (Interesting enough, they have WW on their chests, which is 23-23, the number each parent contributes to an offspring.)
The elevator seems to be some sort of reference about trans-dimensional travel. Chocolate could be representing physical creation. His factory I'm assuming is some strange dimension or the journey of life. Violet getting "juiced", which was possible because of all the energy she spent trying to be the "best", as in "loosh".
I missed the everlasting gobstopper part of the story. It really reminded me of God handing out souls and the Devil trying to get them for a price. In the original, Charlie basically hands his soul back to its creator and this is what propels him to the next level in Wonka's elevator.
Wonka's father comes off as being God and Lucifer the rebelling child finally understanding the value of love or compassion or laws, and gaining a new connection with humanity, which had been lost by the people stealing his ideas and using it for their own gain. In the original, there wasn't this Lucifer type connection with Wonka as far as I know.
All in all, a movie about habits that lead to us being led away to being harvested or thrown in the rubbish heap or some other fate other than what is ultimately possible.
Just a quick analysis of the movie. Of course, I could be wrong on all of this.
Just seen Charlie & the Chocolate Factory.
I was totally amazed of what I've seen and I've amazed again to read Haven's post. Exactly the same that I saw, word by word. That was really amazing film which tells creation and dimensions as Haven wrote. My mouth went wide open exactly in TV room scenes, where there's a direct referencee to 2001: A Space Odyssey's opening scene. Wow! The monolith? Our whole evolution led by a "holographic" thing? Rrreally great.
Just some more quick thoughts; the children may represent the hybrid genetical streams of humans. Lucifer/Willy Wonka punishes all the children for their weaknesses, or to put it more straight, their own weaknesses punishes the children. We - as human beings - do not show respect to monther earth/gaia which is symbolised by the squirrel scenes and we may end up in thrash! TV room has the peak moments of the films, as well as the song in that room. As a summary the song says: "thrash your tv" in that scenes.
Surprisingly amazing film. I suggest all to see it!
In response to what Lyra wrote about the mob mentality in WOTW, sad but true fact is that people will resort to this kind of behavior in non life threatening situations. You guys have probably seen news stories about human stampedes in malls, to get exclusive concert tickets and stuff like that, but here's another example from something that happened earlier today: http://www.wwbt.com/servlet/Satellite?p … 1784465955
we just saw this movie called "crash" rented it at blockbuster, and it was pretty good. it takes you deep into the complicated synchronicities that humanity creates...
it starts off kind of jumpy (one of those movies that handles multiple storylines) but dont worry, it weaves itself together nicely. it jerked some tears out of me, thats 4 sure (because its so true)
check it out sometime...
...now im tossing in Appleseed...
appleseed
finally got to see this film, and it was amazing
the graphics are superb, mixing photorealism with cell-shading, they blend many styles together to create a surreal visual experience.
the movie was awesome, although its kind of similar to what youve already seen from these creators. if u liked GitS, youll love Appleseed. maybe not as great as GitS, but defenitely looks alot better with the killer graphics.
are man & machine destined to co-exist?????
*edit- another way to look at this movie would be clone/OP/hybrids co existing with humans...
Is anyone got to see Dvid Lynch movies like Molholland Drive or Lost Highway?
Hi Lyra, Logan's Run the movie was also made into an incredibly good dark sci-fi series... at least that's how I remembered it. A good friend noticed the similarities between Logan's Run and The Island too, perhaps they just recycled bits and pieces of the plot. About the occult references, the seventies counterculture was full of them.
In a similar style there is also THX 1138 (George Lucas),
Is anyone got to see Dvid Lynch movies like Molholland Drive or Lost Highway?
Yes. Just do a search on either "Mulholland Drive" or "David Lynch" using the forum search engine. It's been written about several times here on the forum, including in this thread as well.
A good friend noticed the similarities between Logan's Run and The Island too, perhaps they just recycled bits and pieces of the plot.
It's a popular estoteric theme. It all traces back to the story of Jesus and creation, I'm sure. I only learned about it recently myself, so I'm not trying to sound all pretentious and knowledgable about this either. 
That's the reason I can now recognize it, because I finally learned about it. One day when I was tweaking my Harry Potter article it just clicked........like hmm, wait a minute.............and I saw the parallels between Harry Potter and Star Wars, which paralleled the story of Lucifer and God and the story of creation. ding! ding! ding! Cause I'm just so quick like that! It's a wonder I even figured it out at all though, considering I had no religious upbringing and only began researching the Illuminati and esoteric stuff relatively recently (over the past 2 1/2 years).
wow! this thread has already gone to second page but it's time to wake it up!
just watched a really wonderful russian film named "night watch" (originally, nochnoj donor). it was really magnificent.
if we say hollywood films on darkside/positive side war, darkside manipulations, hyperdimensional beings, shape shifters, densities etc. are on beginner level, this is intermediate - and even advanced in some scenes - level. i don't know if this movie is available in europe or us cinemas, but if you come up, don't miss it!
I have just seen revenge of the sith on DVD, the part that interested me was cut out the movie.
On the isolated asteroid of Polis Massa, YODA meditates.
YODA: Failed to stop the Sith Lord, I have. Still much to learn, there is ...
QUI -GON: (V.O.) Patience. You will have time. I did not. When I became one with the Force I made a great discovery. With my training, you will be able to merge with the Force at will. Your physical self will fade away, but you will still retain your consciousness. You will become more powerful than any Sith.
YODA: Eternal consciousness.
QUI-GON: (V.O.) The ability to defy oblivion can be achieved, but only for oneself. It was accomplished by a Shaman of the Whills. It is a state acquired through compassion, not greed.
YODA: . . . to become one with the Force, and influence still have . . . A power greater than all, it is.
QUI-GON: (V.O.) You will learn to let go of everything. No attachment, no thought of self. No physical self.
YODA: A great Jedi Master, you have become, Qui-Gon Jinn. Your apprentice I gratefully become.
YODA thinks about this for a minute, then BAIL ORGANA enters the room and breaks his meditation.
BAIL ORGANA: Excuse me, Master Yoda. Obi-Wan Kenobi has made contact.
I saw "Chicken Little" and liked the movie. I think that this movie falls within a possible "alien disclosure" program and like other movies in this genre, it has both positive and negative aspects.
First, I think that continuing to get the idea of other intelligent non-human life (besides known species like whales, dolphins, primates, dogs, cats, etc) out in the public awareness is a good step.
Possible Spoilers:
In the movie, the aliens were shown as having various types of advanced technology including anti-gravity, cloaking devices, and the ability to dematerialize and rematerialize lifeforms.
The aliens were shown to be "cute as can be". They were little triangular furballs. They also have three eyes.
When a little alien furball child gets left behind on earth, the alien military is called in on a rescue mission. Before the earth is destroyed by the aliens using their highly advanced technology, the alien child is reunited with its parents and the day is saved.
Before the alien invasion/rescue mission is full-blown, nobody believes Chicken Little and his friends when they describe various anomalous phenonmena and claim that "the sky is falling."
Possible negative results from this movie are that since the aliens are shown to be so cute, this may lead people to think that aliens tend to always be friendly.
Another plot point is that an alien family regularly visits the earth in order to "pick acorns". In their spaceship, there are various bottles showing organs of various types.
Chicken Little has done well at the box office - selling over $80 million in tickets in the first week and a half of release.
The new Harry Potter movie has a Tri-Wizard competition of some sorts in it. I'm think it might mean 23-23-23, because that makes 3 W's, and 2 x 3 = 6. 666.
Hopefully somebody will post their thoughts on the deeper meanings of the new movie somewhere in the forum; I'd be interested in the conclusions drawn.
Haven't seen the new Harry Potter movie, Haven. Will prolly wait for the DVD.
Tonight I saw the new Dylan DVD, No Direction Home, and I was enthralled. I'd never seen Dylan performing live before (clips of his earlier
career, singing many of his most notable songs). What a tremendous talent, with an electrifying musical and performing style. His story is a useful lesson in how misunderstood are the most creative among us, by the average person. So many people couldn't understand why Dylan didn't want to remain in the boxes they thought he should occupy--folk singer, protest singer, political activist. They couldn't accept his uniqueness, his need as a creative person to keep growing, changing, exploring. They gave him a really hard time, and he withdrew from performing for many years, although I understand he's back doing it again now.
The most fascinating documentary I've ever seen. Jen gives it five stars.
I've long been a fan of Dylan. And after a review like that I'm a gonna' put "Home" on my must-see list 
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