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Noble Realms → Current Events → Nick Berg video being declared a fraud............??
Ha!! BBC
Posted elsewhere:
Evidence
1) Most people replied by asserting that the execution occured as retribution to the abuse photos that had surfaced, but you have to ask yourself - do these terrorists, who are clearly capable of brainwashing people to the point where they are willing to kill and be killed for their beliefs, really have no concept of political tact? Here they are, the whole world screaming at the US for hypocrisy and injustice over these pictures, and they perform and publish this execution right in the heat of the scandal. In other words, these masters of brainwashing and spin and deception release a video of a despicable act just as the US, their sworn enemy, is being globally grilled. Does this make sense to you?
2) Second, I wonder what the standard issue chair is at Abu Ghraib prison?
*cough*
3) Is it not interesting that the wall colour at Abu Ghraib prison is identical to that of the video?
4) Is it not also interesting that Berg is wearing the same orange jumpsuit worn by prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison? Sure, you say, perhaps he was kidnapped directly from the prison (as stupid as this sounds, anyway) - but then can you please explain (7)?
5) Is it also not interesting that the timecodes in the video jump back and forth?
6) Is it also not interesting that Berg did not exhibit any of the convulsions that typically accompany decapitation? http://www.ahsc.arizona.edu/uac/iacuc/rodents/avma.htm I am suggesting here that Berg was already dead when the decapitation occured (which accounts for 5). Before you go calling me crazy, please review the evidence; why did he not exhibit the convulsions that go hand in hand with decapitation (especially such an extended one)?
7) Is it not curious that the US denies contact with Berg, and yet his friends and family insist that he told them he was being held by the US? Huh? Why?
Another tape oddity - the men SPEAK RUSSIAN for several seconds. Not only that, but they speak Arabic with Russian accents. That's right, in the final seconds of the tape, one of the men speaks in Russian. Those here who understand russian (and have the stomach to view that final seconds of the video) can verify this. Those who speak Arabic will be able to verify that these men speak Arabic in Russian accents.
9) Finally (the physical evidence that will convince you in case you already aren't)...
You will notice, in watching the video, that 6 times, a gold ring flashes on the hand of the executioner. What is the problem? Islam completely and utterly forbids men to wear gold rings. This fanatical muslim, willing to kill in a gutwrenching manner, and be killed for his beliefs, is violating one of the clear prohibitions of his religion? Really? DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO YOU?edit:
Two more points:10) Nick Berg understands Arabic, but sits calmy while statement is read, waiting to be killed. Hmm?
11) One of the executioners is wearing Air Jordans. WHAT?
edit 2:
12) The "terrorists" signed the video, yet they wear hoods and masks. Why?
13) The "terrorists" have lily white hands.
14) The video time is in US Military English. What the hell?
Conclusion
As many has suspected, but have not had the time to build a solid case for, the execution of Nick Berg was performed by coalition interests (most likely independent Russian mercenaries) in order to dwarf the abuse pictures and sway public opinion back against the Iraqis and in support of the war by taking advantage of the emotional reaction we all experience when hearing of such an despicable act. The poor production quality (all the "curiosities" I have pointed out) of this video can be attributed to the haste in which it was made after the order was given to distract the public from the abuse scandal, and is in line with my conclusion.Again, before you attack my conclusion, attack my evidence. No matter how crazy you think this sounds, examine the evidence objectively and please try to deny a single thing I have said. If you cannot deny my evidence, you logically cannot deny my conclusion. Make your replies free of subjective opinions and ad hominem attacks or I will not reply to them.
Sources:
Chair, wall, timecode, and :
http://www.libertyforum.org/showfla...=-1#Post1469025
http://www.news24houston.com/conten...D … mp;SecID=2Berg was in US custody:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/ … index.htmlGold rings forbidden by Islam:
http://www.khilafah.com/home/catego...I … mp;TagID=2
http://www.google.com/search?q=gold...= … p;oe=utf-8The execution video can be seen here (warning, extremely graphic): http://temp.eyecannon.com/iraq2vediom.wmv
PS: In other news, the video that the US used to incriminate Bin Laden in masterminding the 9/11 attacks was a fake. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html Judge for yourself. I will be doing another post on this once I gather more information. Once you have made up your mind, please ask yourself why the government would want to fake Bin Laden's guilt, which apparently justified the entire Afghanistan war (where an oil pipeline is now being built, which the Taliban had refused to allow).
Thank you ermolai, that's definately a great list of evidence.
What I think is sad is that whoever wrote that on whatever messageboard had to include the whole bit about "Again, before you attack my conclusion, attack my evidence. No matter how crazy you think this sounds, examine the evidence objectively and please try to deny a single thing I have said. If you cannot deny my evidence, you logically cannot deny my conclusion. Make your replies free of subjective opinions and ad hominem attacks or I will not reply to them." It just makes me mad that all the evidence is there, yet, guaranteed there will be people who will knee-jerk attack it. Obviously, whoever wrote this was well acquainted with what I call the "messageboard disinformation agents" who seem to roam around debunking anything controversial that comes up, and doing it in a rabid, irrational way riddled with logical fallacies, so as to get the poster of controversial material so flustered that they back off and drop the whole thing, resulting in the aim of getting the thread to die off.
Anyway, thanks again for the comprehensive list.
10) Nick Berg understands Arabic, but sits calmy while statement is read, waiting to be killed. Hmm?
That he showed no emotion bothered me from day one, and I didn't know he understood Arabic. Just too much.
I think it's been discussed elsewhere on NR, but if the world was so much to believe that Arabs did this act of violence then why are there so many obvious signs that it was anybody but the Arabs. These mistakes are too many in number to just be an oversight. Or a MCS boo-boo. Way too much.
And the info about the Russian influence? My head is spinning so fast with this one that I can't even begin to imagine how that all works out.
I think somebody's getting the shaft, or will get the shaft, and I don't mean just the general population. I wonder sometimes if they're not screwing each other over behind each others backs and we are the unfortunate recipitents of the fall-out. At least I think maybe there is some element of this going on.
Thanks ermolai for posting this!
Another interesting follow up on this video..........
http://www.rense.com/general53/bergvideosaidfake.htm
Here is the same article Lyra just posted, but from the original source. This one includes the pictures that rense left out.
http://aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/8684646.htm?1c
There's another strange new twist to the saga of Nick Berg and his final days of Iraq before his savage videotaped beheading. Berg teamed up in Baghdad with an ex-Philadelphia man who led a controversial group of Iraqi expatriates encouraged by the U.S. government - even as he faced deportation for his role in Russian-emigre crime ring selling millions of vials used for crack.
Aziz Kadoory Aziz, also known as Aziz al-Taee, hooked up earlier this year with the 26-year-old West Chester man to start a small company called Shirikat Abraj Babil, or Babylon Towers Co., that would install, inspect and repair telecommunications and utility towers. In interviews with several news organizations in Baghdad, Aziz claimed he may have been the last friend to speak with Berg before his kidnapping and beheading by terrorists possibly linked to the al Qaeda network. The radio-tower contractor had come back to Baghdad after a 13-day detainment in Mosul, only to disappear again on April 10.
Aziz said that on April 10 Berg "surprised me by calling me at 9 or 10, to say that he found some friend to travel with to Jordan." Berg said he was en route, but Aziz doesn't know who he was with or what kind of vehicle they were driving. "He said they were nice people. I told him to have a nice trip."
After living in Philadelphia for two decades, Aziz arrived in Baghdad sometime last year. A friend said he left for Iraq before the government moved on the deportation case.
Here in America, Aziz was the highly visible spokesman for a group he'd founded called the Iraqi American Council and appeared frequently on major media outlets like Fox News Channel calling for the military ouster of Saddam Hussein. Aziz' outfront role also included speaking at pre-war, pro-troop rallies. It continued even after it was reported the inner-city electronic entrepreneur had pleaded guilty in the crack-vial case in 1994 and later had legal run-ins involving stolen computers and bootlegged CDs.
hmmmmm....he looks pretty different in this "undated" photo than he did in the snuff film, wouldn't you say?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/ … index.html
From what I've read from the above, or through the various websites I've visited, I have a strong leaning towards this:
1.) Pictures arose giving U.S. a hit in the stomach in the PR-department.
2.) U.S. needs a balance, so the U.S. isn't alone in the "tango" when the building sets on fire.
3.) U.S. citizen, Berg, who works intimately in the technological fields with muslims is chosen to be the candidate for the incident. To Guantanamo Bay he is sent. A costume designer dresses the U.S. soldiers in the muslim-trend-clothes and the decapitation occurs.
4.) Just like the American found with the Taliban, Berg is drugged so that he cannot speak as himself, soverign, but rather mind-controlled to go through the whole process.
5.) Decapitated and sent to the American public via the General Motors media-enchalada to punch for the other side.
In the other side of the world, the muslim radicals are scratching their heads while finishing up some freshly brewed "dough" with some "osh-resh-chteh"
BlackBox (oh subtile one) what's osh-resh-chteh ?
sedna
A delicious middle-eastern soup.
mmmm....
Oh and "dough" is a home-made, carbonated, milked drink.
The basic thing here is that not a ONE of us doubts we are being lied to......
This to me in and of itself screams that we are being seriously messed with.........
and at my age I am getting SICK of it......you guys GO.......this is the only way....
I'm sticking with my opinion that the Bible code is evidence of STS tampering from interdimensional beings. That sort of thing seems to be almost a signature of unsavory manipulation.
Hi Solo,
Could you explain to me your theory on STS tampering with the Bible Code please?
MTFBWY
Warm regards
JT
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