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ok, I don't know why some letters worked and some didn't. I got 'em off the arial unicode map... grrr.

the alef looks kind of like a pinwheel, 4 "wings" to it, 2 diametrically connected with 2 yuds making the cross. arial sux for rendering the hebrew script...

Mem final looks like a square, more or less. upper right corner curved.
Nun regular looks like a skinny kaf, or a gimel without the little leg, see above comment on the font.

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druid wrote:

I LOVE Monty Python's Life of Brian!

In the Portuguese version Bicus Dicus = Pictus Curtus
From there comes my nick... lol

druid wrote:

dyslexia, according to anthroposophists, is the outer sign of hidden gifts that may emerge later on in life. dyslexics are able to see things from many angles all at once. They should become architects, but most people believe dyslexia is a handicap, so they do not even try...

Very interesting, living and learning!

Bye, Pictus

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In italian = Minchius Maximus wink

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34 (edited by zenden 2006-10-14 11:23:22)

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back on briefly, still ill.  read all above.  u 2 r scholars.  druid, im very impressed with all that work/writing u just did, will have to save and read more leisurely, thats a volume of and in and of itself.   geez.  and ZT--love to learn everyday and never knew that or heard of it before about dyslexics.   but was thinking (and this is for google too, as the request was made for me to cite sources).  etc.  i was thinking also of the AQUATAINE so please druid--ur thots and so forth on this. as in Eleanor of Aquataine.  not aquaduct, damn it, and screw the romans (altho i am sure i was one in another life, soldier, no doubt).  they gave us plenty IMO but it aint all good as u know.

anyway---i have no specific books that have told me the KT were infiltrated.  i have no text that says that specifically, that sources that notion in detail and backs that up.  i do have though, have read at length, --channeled material and websites i have poured over and have deducted that from what i have read.  and i still stand behind them as not the evil purveyors that TPTB ETC would like everybody to think.  i have discussed it with my KT enthusiast/mentor historian friend and have come up with/ to that conclusion on my own.  i have no specific famous person nor author that has said that.  it's from me only and its simply a knowing, a feeling, a conclusion, a deduction.   to me, its more than a hypothesis, i FEEL it. 

now as for all the historic stuff, how they fought, etc,. what weapons they used and why, and such info, what they did for women, the foundational beliefs (and they also were made to never bathe, they could not sleep naked, nor take off their underclothing or wash it, nor sleep without a nightlight on--as candles had to burn at nite no matter what in the dark corners of their sleeping quarters because they were afarid to ? or concerned with?  homosexual /  sexual activity and others sneaking up on them (for real) so they had to be able to see at nite, no matter what, and greatly feared being caught with their pants down,  imagine that, and to this day i too must have a nightlight on... i find all that fascinating) ---  and for that matter, supposedly the steps of a few of their cathedrals, mainly tho rosslyn chapel, and other smaller buildings in the area, on islands more north, etc, the entrances all have a few steps that go in and down and that was for them on horseback so they could attend mass/services and still be on horseback and be able to get up and out while still mounted.  all that can be found as one reads their history which is at several sites but u gotta read and read and it may be boring to some, and u would have to then, read links too and all that.  all kinds of sites that talk of the holy grail and the search for it will go and on and that and them.  thats how i started out, researching the HG and i ran into them and wow---that did it.  i fell in love with them and read and read and read.  i know i am a reincarnated KT--so is my other half, so r lots of my friends, and ive had a million flashbacks, and thats all there is to it.  now i wasnt gonna say this, but there, ive gone and done it and i dont care about fall-out from that.  its simply what i KNOW and REMEMBER.

so for me, to send or post sites/books/references on the infestation thing or defend bad rep/rap a few may wanna give them--cant do it.  everything in their history says the opposite and i'd only bore u with it.  if one looks them up on google or any search engine  (google--ha, there u go!! tryin to be funny will still sick) u will see their info.  and thats redundant.   i got nuthin on how they were screwed over AND USED PER SE but one can deduct that if u read enuf.  ive been stewing on this.  for channeled info u'd have to read Maia Christensen and theres a place called Holy Realms thats at MSN groups and i can forward some of that if necessary but i dont think u'd be loving all that.  jon martinus was mentioned in more than one place, by more than one channelled work, by unassociated sources, and i LOVE that kind of thing--its all i got.  since i dont order or pay for big or expensive books, i dont have a ton of them for ya either.  its me my work, my thoughts, conclusions, the associations i have made from READING gobs on grail research, MM and JC (and dont just stop there or believe or dont believe--stuff is what it is and oh well) so forgive me but im done on this.

and one or 2 more things--interesting id be talkin/ we would be talkin on this on friday the 13th, when affeciandos know what that means on them.  far out.  and the search for King Arthur stuff and the Isles of Avalon info also led me to find more and associate, as well as the history of nursing and healing, and the sisters of avalon stuff too, including who the original midwives were and why.  most all of this goes into what i found when i was researching my genetic and family tree, and my pastlives which bugged the crap ouhtta me until i went in the direction i have spoken of.  theres so much there i'd bore u to death.  and i hooked it together, had  a more recent reading done by computer of all things and there it was plus i added 2 and 2 from other old psychic readings i have had done over a span of 40 yrs and WHEW, it all comes together, explains my archetypal connections, why i believe the way i do, look like i do and oh god--i gotta stop now.  i cant defend a frickin thing.  ok im done but thank u for ur interest and just know--theyre CLEAN and not evil.  they played along with kings and french royalty as long and far as they had to, but theres more underneath.  if u want channeled info and will accept it.  well then.  i hope i dont sound defensive im just pooped.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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druid--u r killing me.  my DNA is french.  too much.  see what i mean?  conncections connections CONNECTIONS!!!!! and i have given plenty of blood apparently--woweekazowee.  never knew that on the sangre.  so passionate on that.   ahhhh to LIVE and FEEL.  thanks much.  love to live and learn.  eh?  yes to all above.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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Actually, I didn't come up to all this by myself...

This is the work of French alchemist Patrick Burensteinas. I saw two of his conferences in Quebec city. Extremely interesting.
He has a website called La Trame. He is a doctor in Physics and one day in his twenties he fell on an alchemical book about the soul in matter. He started to work in a 'creuset' and gradually he attained the degree worthy to be called of Alchemist. but not yet Adept. He also developped a technique based on his findings, for spiritual-soul and physical hygiene : La Trame. He says that the whole world of matter is made of sinusoidal waves and that sometimes in our body, because of soul entanglements (soul knots, complexes, and so on), the information does not circulate correctly in the body and the waves are diverted fro their propre course. in extreme cases cancer arises because cells start to grow independently of the great scheme of the body-soul-spirit organism. You won't find the info I gave you above on his website. It comes from memory by attending two of his conferences. I have karmic connections with him : right now I study from an anthropological point of view the Rudolf Steiner school of Montreal and, surprise! I learned that he may he on the administration council of the school next year... I never thought I would see him again, not the least in an anthroposophical-Waldorf school context! (well he also wrote fairy stories filled with alchemical knowledge, so it's not THAT surprising actually, since Waldorf schools use a lot of fairy stories, legends, and so on...).

If you have questions about the letter symbolism, just ask. I know it is not clear in some parts, because it is not easy to explain this French Language of the Birds perspective to someone who doesn't speak French... I learned it for the French language, but maybe you can do it better than me for the English langage. Read Shakespeare for example, you'll find aboundant rosicrucian wisdom in it, just like in fairy stories.  In French, we are suggested to read Rabelais because he clearly mentionned in his introduction to Pantagruel that nobody will really understand his work if he doesn't study the Language of the Birds.

Unfortunately, one cannot reach Patrick Burensteinas' (La Trame) website for a while, it is in maintenance.


Ici et maintenant = Ici et mains tenant
('Here and now' or 'here and holding hands', same pronouciation in French)

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Spot on with the Bard... And i'll be holding on to that correspondence list from French!

Fay ce que voudras! (or however it was)

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zenden wrote:

u have to investigate rosslyn chapel, the history of scotland, the stone of destiny, robert the bruce's history, the battle of bannockburn, sorta stay away from the crusades at first, but do read Lincoln & Baigent, and...forget the 3rd guy at the moment--u gotta read Rule by Secrecy, Holy Blood Holy Grail anyway, read the real stories of Joan of Arc, yes--even tho u will be criticized--check out stuff on the ancient Macabees, and the, sorry for those who dont agree--ALOT on the Merovingians and how that relates to Samson, yes--its him, from the bible.  read up on the Franks, the Carolingians. the history of France.  type in "warrior monks" and u will get tons.  dont get into the freemasonry stuff yet.  but do later and i say--read up on Nova Scotia, and Oak Island.  god--i could go on for days and am so wanting to say so much but cant--cannot type that kind of volume and be parsimonious.  Fulcanelli, Umberto Eco, lots on sacred geometry.  things r wrapped up in other things, u will even have to get into Le Rennes la Chateau stuff, the history of the auquedoc area in france, the history of the Rhaennes/Rhennes area, oh god, here i go, the passover plot stuff even, the crucificion stuff, john the baptsist beliefs even, the essenes, the copper scrolls vs dead sea scrolls in and of themselves, paintings and their symbolism by Poussein.  all the Mary Magdalene stuff, Margaret Starbird stuff.  read the book The Last Temptation of Christ, by konstanakis and check out the movie with willam dafoe --the point being to feel hook-ups and investigate the society at the time that the KT believed they were fighting against vs who and why they upheld JC , why they believed the way they did, stuff on black madonnas, im sorry, but there is so much tied in, even read The Sword of Destiny by and anything by Trevor Ravencroft.  more later  it gets tangential

Thanks zebden.

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Ravenscroft has anthroposophical ties: he was W.J. Stein's disciple and wrote for him 'The SPEAR of Destiny' (not 'The Sword of Destiny'). W.J. Stein was killed so he couldn't finish it, he asked Ravenscroft to finish it). W.J. Stein was one of many Rudolf Steiner's pupil. W.J. Stein was in charge of the Historical branch of anthroposophical society. Ravenscroft wrote two other books in the same vein : The Mark of the Beast (2nd of 3, my favorite) and The Cup of Destiny (3rd of 3). Some anthroposophists do not like his 'sensationalist' way to explain history, but when we actually read the book we can see this is not as sensationalist as the title and cover let us believe. Ravenscroft is not an official anthroposophist but he relies heavily on anthroposophical research and certainly often refers to Steiner.

40 (edited by zenden 2006-10-16 10:46:44)

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sorry druid--did it again, see what i mean?  this is like giving the wrong address to somebody when u have lived in the same house for 30 yrs.  get me some hormones?  maybe.  typing when im sicker than a dog, exhausted, and know better.  i hope i didnt screw up google.  and its tracy twyman and not zwyman.  now ive lost all credibility.  i better quit while im ahead. (was ahead.... so sorry and embarassed)

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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I have hear that the founder of the modern illuminati Adam Weishaupt,was a jew converted to jesuit...and the founder of jesuits was Ignacio de Loyola ( he has my name hehehehe:)) was member of a spanish secret society the "alumbrados" who traslated to latin is illuminati..this sect it is said that was formed by converted jews that remain fidel to their religion in secret ,to avoid problems with spanish inquisition..Curiously..this sephardic jews when expulsed from Spain circa 1500 ac went to a lot of places in the mediterranean and one of this places is the land were the sabbatean jews appear...so what a double coincidence cause the bavarian guy who founded the modern illuminated allied with a  sabbatean jew, Frank who followed the false prophet Sabbatai Zevi..who was a turkish Jew of Spanish descent ..so...sabbateans sabbateans sabbateans..jesuits jesuits jesuits..

By the way..this year the Fall in the pyrenees is full of shrooms:)

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It's okay zenden. Don't feel bad!

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I was studying Oak Island today.

I don't see the conection between it and the Illuminati.

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Don't worry zenden, we don't subtract marks for spelling.

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for a nice analysis of jesuits and freemasonry relationships in the light of anthroposophy, I suggest this article:
http://www.monju.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/NWO11.htm
I suggest it although it doesn't even come near the Zionist agenda... I find anthroposophists really short-sighted in their analysis of the NWO and especially 9/11 (See T.H. Meyer's Reality Truth and Evil, the sole anthroposophic book on 9/11 conspiracy. He pathetically refers to Mike Ruppert as... a hero! for god's sake!). Why can't anthroposophists expose the zionist conspiracy??? Are they protecting Israël and Jews? Are they afraid to be called antisemitists? Steiner was called an antisemitist in his time. He often pointed to the error of Judaism, although he recognized the greatness of Yahve and the PAST mission of the Hebrew people. Today, leaning on the Ancient Testament is a source of grave errors, Steiner claimed. it gives rise to nationalism, 'freedom of the peoples' and so on....

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Know that Jesuits are, since their foundation, at the apex of the Vatican, and that in higher levels, behind the smoke screen and despite the outer open war, jesuits and masons are one. Zionism is a more recent beast, the beast that stood behind bolchevism, nazism, international spying and control of the medias (read the Protocols, they are fairly true), 911 and the coming police state. NWO is more a masonic thing. USA-Israel is the new Holy Roman Empire. Judaism is long since perverted religion, but despite the opinion of gnostics and neo-gnostics, I don't believe Yaweh is the Evil Demiurge of the world.  This evil Demiurge is two-fold: Lucifer and Ahriman. Steiner's insights go far beyond those of past times gnostics.
I read Secret history of the World by LKJ and let me tell you that it doen't even get near the extraordinary understanding of Rudolf Steiner. And still she dismisses him like he were a low-class sorcerer. Pathetic, really.