Re: Stuart Wilde

Zenden,I suppose you might get in if you applied now. If you really wanted to try. But you are right even if you can afford the membership fee it doesn ´t cover other expenses.

You have to be able to have a bit of time off for travel. For as part of the course you will be invited to attend Redeemer’s Clubs evenings or weekends (free of charge) that will be held in Europe and North America, in which Stuart will go through the concepts with you one-on-one, or in small groups. At the free events you are required to pay for your personal expenses, food and lodging if needed.

Thanks Zenden, I ´m glad that you see what I ´m getting at.

And Treehugger, they will have to do without me too. lol

Re: Stuart Wilde

This is a recent article from Stuart Wilde.  It may describe what the beginning of "merging dimensions" might look like.

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Summer Wine

Stuart Wilde
June 12th, 2006


Dear Friends,

I’m off the air for five weeks. I’m taking a group to a French castle that was built in the 1100s by the Templar. The castle hasn’t changed much since those days; there’s no electricity above the ground floor, so it’s candlelight and stone stairs and bats squeaking in the belfry. The castle has a mysterious Celtic holy stone in the chapel, when you place sticks on it and try to light them they don’t burn. The locals use the stone healing in some way. I’m interested to find out about it.

If you missed this French set of gigs, no worries, there will be others for those of you that want to come. For ages I couldn’t work out how to take people to the aluna, mirror-world, I’d show them the gap and try as they might they couldn’t see it. Then in the aluna one night I was shown a key, and more importantly the internal design for it, and so I commissioned the HeavyLight people (www.heavylight.de) to make it for me. Turned out brilliant.

Five years in the Morph has been lonely as I only ever had one or two people that could see it and come with me. But now I’ve figured how to show people the Morph, and how to take everyone in there and bring them back! Recently, I was in a cocktail bar in London and I was showing casual acquaintances, some of which had no metaphysical knowledge whatsoever, how to dematerialize their index finger right then and there. They couldn’t quite believe what they were not seeing! I had to show them three or four times before they got the comprehension of it.

What that taught me was that now everyone can do it, it’s just a ‘click’ of the mind. It knew the Morph was going to be for everyone but I despaired waiting for it come forward. That is why this journey to the Templar castle is significant. It’s my first taxi-driving job (taking people across to the other side). I’m proud to have arrived at some proper employment finally. I always said that in the end I’d drive a taxi. I understand it better now.

There is now a confluence of energies wrapping around each other, I am sure you might have felt them. That is helping us all, a lot. It’s a leap forward; the whispered promise of a summer wine.

I’ll write next month,
all the best Stuart

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Does anyone have any first or second hand experience with Stuart Wilde's Redeemers Club.

From Stuart Wilde...

The Redeemer’s Club is a travel club for scallywags that are fed up with the old repetitive stuff, that long for a brave new world.

It’s a journey on three levels: we visit with keepers of the gnosis, the transdimensional taxi drivers I write about. They show you stuff you don’t know. The second part of the journey is a journey of transformation within you. I teach you with a series of lessons that are sent to you every 12-14 days or so, for a year, and in addition to those items, part of the teaching is in articles posted to the club’s Internet site, you get a pin number for that. Essentially the yearlong teaching is ‘the road to redemption’. The idea is, you learn the concepts so can eventually teach them to others.
The third part of the journey is within the hyper-dimensional phenomena I call the Morph. I teach you to see it properly. Once you are no longer blind and you can see with new eyes, you can travel in the other worlds safely, “bye, bye Kansas” . These are not flights of fancy or pretending, it is literal, you straddle two worlds. I go with you.
 

The Holy Grail is not a chalice or a bloodline, that is a corruption used to send people the wrong way. The Grail is a dimension protected by a gravitational anomaly. Imagine that anomaly as a vortex, like water spinning down a sink. You already hold the key to the Grail vortex (doorway), but you can’t normally see it, and anyway it’s only an inch across right now. As a member I post you a special key that will help you unlock the door. Beyond is the Grail castle, a celestial dimension of radiant colors, sensuality and bliss. There are no words to describe its extraordinary beauty. If you see it once, it will change you forever.

The phenomenon of the Morph is everywhere. It makes reality go non-solid and soapy-looking. When you put your hand up in the Morph your hand dematerializes, then it blips back again. It’s not scary. The Morph evokes bliss. Remember, when Percival and Galahad found the Grail they disappeared - ding, ding!

Baby steps.

If you can see the Morph just once, you will always see it. It’s a click of the mind nothing more. As a member of the club we’ll visit together up to four times in the year, maybe more. I’ll show you the Morph and bring you back. I can’t tell you all of it here, you can understand why, but I can give you a clue.

The scattered Camelots are at specific geographical locations, they are usually very beautiful settings, but if you go there it all looks normal, you can’t see anything different. It’s just a pretty hill with a few sheep. Yet on that hill is a village and houses and three hundred people going about their daily lives…they are not ghosts, they are flesh and blood humans like you and me…scallywags that got fed up with the boring, old repetitive stuff that longed for a brave new world.

Sincerely,
Stuart Wilde

http://www.redeemersclub.com/index.html

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It hasn't officially opened yet. It opens this or next month I think.

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Speaking of Stuart Wilde... does anyone know what's happened with his site? It seems it's gone... whether permanently or temporarily, I don't know. Here's the link that takes me nowhere.

http://stuartwilde.com/

Anyone else have trouble with it?

~Sowelu

"The most important decision you have to make is whether you live in a hostile or friendly universe."
~ Albert Einstein

The real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes. ~Marcel Proust

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Re: Stuart Wilde

Sowelu wrote:

Speaking of Stuart Wilde... does anyone know what's happened with his site? It seems it's gone... whether permanently or temporarily, I don't know. Here's the link that takes me nowhere.

http://stuartwilde.com/

Anyone else have trouble with it?

~Sowelu

Yeah, I had the same thing last night Sowelu.  My first thought was that he took his site down....?  I don't know.  Seems a bit extreme for him to do that.   I'm now glad that I printed out the best posts from 2003-2005!   Sometimes we assume that something will just be around forever, but that's obviously not always the case!   Although being that Stuart is now traveling around the world as a perpetual traveler you'd think that he'd need his website more than ever at this point to help generate income for himself.  It gives people the opportunity to order his books and find out about workshops, which he makes money from.  So maybe it's just a temporary situation.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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I'm pretty sure it's just a temporary glitch. Either a problem with his server or perhaps he's been hacked. He's added quite a few new articles in the last few weeks and I doubt he would have done that if he was planning on taking the site down.

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Wilde wrote that Carl Sagan sold his soul for money and prestige. Arguably he is right. But Wilde writes on his Redeemersclub website:

'Once the club is ready in the fall of 2006 or slightly before, there will be an entrance fee of Euro 2995 to join for the first year and an additional fee of Euro 1000 per year if you want to continue for the second and third years. You can decide at the time.'

It seems to be getting more difficult to become enlightened without paying for it.

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Stuart struck me as the sort of guy that likes one-on-one and small groups. I could be totally wrong about that. But one way to slim down the numbers or sell fewer units is to raise prices. He talked in one of his audio series about how an old guru of his would make rediculous requirements and if you wanted to continue on you had to find a way to meet the requirements, and it started off as a group of 1000s and thinned down into the 10s... Others probably know more about the guy than me but that's what I thought of. Maybe he's turned to the dark side, maybe he needs funds to build a spaceship... You can probably find everything you need for free so I'd say forget about him if you don't like his demands.

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If you really wanted something you would have it already.
If something really aided you in your growth and development you would have it already.

On the other hand, money is placed on things that have value.
Everyone needs money to function in this society and Stuie is no different I suspect.
Placing a price on his service is putting value on himself. It's not evil or wicked. Spirituality is never financially deprived.

Putting huge demands on students tests their dedication to the path. It is also a discipline.
You cannot reach the divine without working on it yourself. It's not something you get for free.

When the student is ready, the teacher will arrive. Every time.

"The universe is on fire with wonder, beauty, and ecstasy." - From the Undines to Humanity

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There appears to be always so much justification for the use of money in matters spiritual. One hears that it is 'just energy' or 'you have the right to charge for your services'. Perhaps there is a latent guilt felt about 'charging' for spiritual services that makes doing it require some form of justification.

I fail to see how money and spiritual enlightenment (in any shape or form) can go hand in hand. Any enlightened man (self-proclaimed or not) who is intent on 'taking five or six hundred over' will not charge for that service. He is hardly enlightened if he does and all the justification for doing it will be mere spin.

What should any reasonable man think if someone came up to him, touched him on the shoulder and said: 'Hey, buddy, I can get you through the pearly gates, here are my credentials but, oh, by the way, it's gonna cost you five thousand bucks'?

What would you think?

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Yeah, Im on his email list and I got an article this past week titled*Come now...if you can*.  He said he took people thru the morph, and he gave a description and all but stopped at actually giving details how to see it.  He also says if you cant see the Morph or Grail vortex ( he claims thats what the Grail is, an opening to a  Camelot world) *you might not be as warm and tender as you think*.  Whaaa?   So if you want to see the morph or Camelot , you have to cough up a few thousand dollars.  If it was that important as he seems to make it, wouldnt you think he would share it with anyone that was sincerely  interested?

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

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Re: Stuart Wilde

treehugger wrote:

He also says if you cant see the Morph or Grail vortex ( he claims thats what the Grail is, an opening to a  Camelot world) *you might not be as warm and tender as you think*.  Whaaa?

So you noticed this too, treehugger!!  I was commenting about this exact comment last night.   This really rubbed me the wrong way, and I realized that Stuie has been making little offhand comments like this for about the last year or so, here and there.  Always preaching that we have to be soft, warm, tender, gentle, passive, feminine, (even the guys!) that we need to subjugate our egos under everybody else, and if we're not experiencing what he's experiencing then, well, possibly we're not as nice as we'd like to think we are.   

I mean, come on.  I didn't want to get into this yesterday, but since you noticed it too and it jumped out at you I wanted to say that you're definitely not the only one who was left going "Whaaaa??"  And I also frowned about the unusually high cost for his workshops.   I mean, I understand that the dude's gotta eat too, and as a perpetual traveler who's not settled in with a "day job" so to speak, he's got to have a way to generate income, but it seems that his prices are a bit....much, to put it mildly.  I had forwarded Stuie's upcoming Amsterdam info. to a friend of ours who's currently living in Amsterdam, thinking Hey this could be cool, Stuie's coming to your city in two months!  You could meet him!  But he informed me that it costs the equivalent of over $1,000 USD to attend!  So there goes that idea.   It's too bad too.  With rates like that it means Stuie's going to be mainly drawing in the rich people who have loads of money to throw around, lots of time on their hands, and who are looking to buy spiritual enlightenment.  Versus if he lowered his rates and could get in more of the down-to-earth people who've been following his work for years.

The thing is, which you've probably already thought of too treehugger, is that the only reason Stuie's workshop people were able to see the morph is because they forked over the $1,000+ cost (or whatever the high price is) to attend.  But if they hadn't forked over the money, they wouldn't have seen it either.  So then does that make them so much more "warm" and "tender" than us who haven't seen it??   No!  It just makes them more rich!  So what kind of logic is that, you know?   It's actually a bit manipulative.   "Can't see the morph yet?  hmm, well, I guess you're just not as nice as you thought you were.  (but you could be if only you paid me money to teach you how to see it!   hint hint!)"  And THAT'S what's rubbing me the wrong way about Stuie right now, and it's why I'm just about at a point where I'm no longer going to endorse his current work.  I like most of his old stuff, but, something has changed, and I don't like what I'm hearing from him anymore.   Something is "off."

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Im glad you noticed Lyra.  I had never heard of Stuart until somebody mentioned him on NR this past Feb.  I had been reading his stuff on his website and it intriqued me. But his recent articles started to sound *different* or, off like you said . That wasnt the first time he has said something about* well, if you are not experiencing this or seeing this, well, you just not as nice of person as you think you are*.  He makes it sound like him and all the people who have paid for the privilege are all saints!

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

Re: Stuart Wilde

I have also been thinking about Stuart Wilde recently.

The tone to his articles certainly have changed a bit.  But there is one other change that particularly stands out for me; nearly all his most recent articles and e-mails have contained spelling and / or grammar errors.  And that is something pretty unusual for a guy that has previously stated that presentation and correctness are spiritual traits.  Traits which are very important as they assist in getting your point across correctly.

I maybe wrong, but I don't recall seeing those sorts of errors in his previous web articles and e-mails.

As to the costs of his courses / seminars and club etc.  Money is fairly relative; personally I wouldn't consider someone who pays out $3000 on a yearly membership fee as "rich".  On the other hand such prices are certainly out of my own reach.  That said, if an individual is determined enough $3000 isn't an impossible amount to come by.

Charging for his teachings certainly isn’t something I would resent him for.  And although the subject of money in spiritual matters is debatable...I wouldn’t have a problem charging people for my time.

But then, like you Lyra and treehugger; I am also questioning just what that money is buying, as well as the manner in which it is being sold.  Stuart Wilde certainly knows what sells, and he knows how to sell.  "Stuie" has also turned himself into a franchise.  And that is fine so long as his product does what the label says.

On the subject of Stuart's abilities and knowledge, I still continue to believe he is legit.  And although most of his recent stuff has a very "out there" nature, I feel it's important to keep in mind the angle of his approach - his perspective.  (And I suspect it is his "perspective" that he teaches on his seminars and clubs.  Maybe an obvious thing to say.  But sometimes when I read Stuart’s stuff, I think "Hey, yeah that is true – [i]from a certain point of view[i]").

On the other hand, he often seems to put a sales-spin on his articles; and although it is pretty subtle, once you see what he is doing it becomes fairly overt.

But all credit to the guy – so long as he isn’t selling duff stuff.  Though the only way to find out would be to go along and pay him the money.  Not the ideal way to test things out.

Anyway – I am not really sure how I feel about "Stuie" nowadays.  I certainly feel his work is good.  But there has definatly been a change or shift in what he is producing recently.  Some of the recent articles and e-mails I personally think have an "off"  feel to them.