smoking control (Page 2 of 3)

Reminded me, here there's a general anti-smoking law. And when I was working, the co-workers were talking about that the state was considering confiscating children from parents who smoke in their own homes as child abuse. That deadly 2nd hand smoke you know. Kid will be much better off being raised in a foster home. That always turns out great. Oh but think of the children. Oh the humanity...

You should tell your FIL about polonium, and about the complete lack of correlation between smoking and lung cancer prior to the use of organo-phosphate pesticides on tobacco crops.

Don't worry though, you aren't the only one with crazy in-laws.  My MIL has similarly flipped out, though usually because I tell her we're going to raise our daughter our way even if that means doing the exact opposite of what she wants (which usually means filling her with processed food, 20 different medications, and other bullshit).  That's all I can really say without digressing into a pages long rant that can't possibly do any good (though it is very very tempting, but all it would do is stir my anger and lead me to VERY dark thoughts).  She is actually good for me though, because I thought I was some how enlightened enough to not hate even the most obnoxious people.  How much I have learned about myself.

My two cents worth.....I had a father who died of lung cancer back in 1998, and hell yeah he was a smoker. Now that's all I've heard from the doctors, "He died of cancer from smoking". Little did they know that he worked as a mason for YEARS, cutting through roofs of old homes (which most likely contained asbestos), cutting brick and blocks~breathing in the dust, but NO, that wouldn't have given him cancer, or so the doctors would say! My ex-brother in-law just found out he has lung cancer, yup, and he smokes. BUT he has also worked YEARS removing 'asbestos' from old buildings! But NO, the doctors wouldn't even consider that it may be the asbestos that contributed to his cancer, it's the CIGERATTES they say!

I smoke, doctors and people tell me that I will get cancer if I continue to smoke. First of all, I dislike people telling me what diseases 'they' think I will get! 

I live in Maine, and a town up north (Bangor) just passed a law against people smoking in their vehicles with children the age of 17 and under. I saw a segment on the news the other night with the lawmakers stating that they were going to issue 'warnings' first, then give out violation tickets (bills of exchange;)) if people don't abide by the law. So far they have not had to issue any warnings. I saw in one of the earlier posts someone mentioned about how  they will make a law that someone will not be able to smoke in their own home with young children. My opinion, that's taking it a little bit too far!

I'm a 'wonderer'...I wonder what would happen if everyone who smoked cigarettes 'QUIT' all on the same day? lol.

Google "snus". I get mine (Granit portion) from www.buysnus.com and the smoking gestapo can't say a thing (no second-hand smoke ). The Swedish government recently removed the cancer warnings from snus because there wasn't any evidence linking it to any form of cancer. Snus is tobacco, salt, bicarbonate and sometimes flavorings. Maybe cancer isn't caused by tobacco but combustion byproducts or additives or, as limukala mentioned, radioactive contamination.

Well, that's unfortunate.  Personally I wouldn't even consider dating someone who smokes.  We just wouldn't be compatible, and I would never try to make someone change for me like that.  I think it's important to know what you can and will accept, and make your choices accordingly. 

And about respecting another person's right to breathe clean air, I apply that to myself as well.  I LOVE to burn incense, but I wouldn't burn it in my office and force my staff to smell it and breathe it.  It's just common courtesy.

I started smoking when I was about 12 - it was a rebellious thing - and quit when I was 18.  I remember how nauseous I was when I first started, until I built up a tolerance.  About a year later, I went to Hawaii with my best friend and her mom who were very heavy smokers, and I was pretty sick most of the time.  The next time I went with them, I smoked a bit during the weeks before hand to build up my tolerance so I wouldn't  be miserable the whole two weeks.  It helped a lot, but I'll never do that again.

It isn't just the nausea though, I used to get severe asthma, tachycardia and irregular heartbeats from commercial cigarrette smoke, among other symptoms.  I've healed a lot my sensitivities over the years, but I still have some negative reactions to chemical exposures if they're strong enough.  (One of the worst, oddly enough, seems to be chemical 'butter' smell like the stuff they add to microwave popcorn.  I am not kidding when I say I literally have to hold my breath when I walk down that isle at the grocery store or I will heave.)

I'm a healer, and some of the people I've worked on who are smokers are extremely toxic.  Their bodies just reek from the toxic chemicals, and it seems to be especially taxing to their livers.

Chemical perfumes are nasty IMO.  I remember a massage client that I used to work on every week many years ago.  She never wore perfume until one particular day she put in on for some reason, and her entire body was one big muscle spasm. It was like she had a whole different body, and as far as we could determine, that was the only variable.  It was like a great big fight or flight stress response.   We tested it again one time in the future, and she had the same response.  Natural fragrances didn't have that effect at all.  (As an aside - the only other time I would find such a huge negative change in people was if they suddenly took up yoga... but that's a whole different thread.)

The thing about many toxic chemicals - they can cross the brain/blood barrier and effect behavior, mood and cognitive function.  I observed this a number of years ago at a special clinic for allergies and sensitivites.   At the time, my allergies (especially ragweed) were so severe, they were really interferring with my ability to function.  So I went to see this doctor who had done a lot of research and written several books on the subject.

They did their testing double blind, so that neither the patient nor the nurse would know if the test was a chemical or whatever else they were testing, or a placebo.  They would start at the lowest possible dilution, and then increase to see if there was a negative response, and then they were able to neutralize it with the next lowest dilution.

Anyway, while I was there, they were testing a cute little boy who was probably about seven years old.  He was very sweet, polite, and peaceful, drawing in his coloring book, but when they tested him with a particular chemical he was sensitive to, it was unbelievable.  He turned into a raging little monster right before my eyes.  I mean, it was like he went crazy - ADHD to the extreme!   And then when they would give him the neutralizing dose, he would morph back in to his sweet little self.  He was like a minature Dr. Jeckll and Mr. Hdye. Very fascinating to watch, and something I'll never forget.

So, little kids breathing in thousands of toxic chemicals in an enclosed car while mom or dad puffs away...  I feel sorry for the teachers.

You know, it's not about whether or not you or l smoke, or whether you like smokers, or being around them, or whether or not they piss you off for what ever reason, it's not about whether you are toxic or sensitive or sick or healthy. 

It is about the state creating a zeitgeist in order to tell you who you are so that they can control you.  It is about 'facts' being created and promulgated for the very purpose of legitimising the ever increasing controls on your sovereign liberty.

It is about your civil and soulful freedom.

Read the fine print.

Bro tells me that here (sleepy old here ) you are "not allowed" to smoke in a work vehicle anymore due to workplace smoking laws.  He is a plumber, so his work vehicle (being tax deductible and therefore prone to the winds of legislation) is 'technically' his workplace and therefore you are not allowed to smoke there.  Because, 'it' says so.

Speaking of plumbers, the govt is proposing that all licensed plumbers here should have to jump through a series of hoops to gain 'points' in order to allow them to keep being licensed.  Ever been in a room of pissed off plumbers?  I really can't imagine, because just on an individual basis they seem to be a breed apart, that take crap from no-one, and have a great deal of fun making sure that that is clear.  The govt may just have taken on more than they can chew with pissing off plumbers as a whole.  Will be watching that one.