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lightwave, hiya.  For the most part I tend to agree with the "parsing" of single lines etc from posts.  It's something I personally don't like for the same reasons that you mention.  So it's only on very rare occasions that I do it myself.

Shame your original post vanished all the same.

I am not really sure what you are feeling so strongly about in regards to the general situation in life.  From your posts I am assuming you are talking about the seemingly bleak future the world has on nearly every level.  No matter which area of life we look at, it all seems to be going down the pan.  I think that is what you are getting at in general...and that you are saying you are also have specific troubles that relate to these general issues.  I only try to define this, because I am curious as to what you are refering it...and if the problem is as I have mentioned in this paragraph, then I maybe able to relate.  (And yes I appreciate it's just me speaking out; but I have held of on this thread, so may as well also throw my "opinion" in).

About two years ago, I started becoming aware of the global conspiracy.  I got hold of David Ickes "Alice in Wonderland" book and began to read it.  Prior to that I had always had a keen interest in eastern spirituality, and it's funny that my study of that led me to information about the global colapse etc.

Anyway, at that time as I discovered what was going on, it felt like a great burden to me.  And I tried to relate this information to others - at work, in family and on forums - but people wouldn't listen or would take the piss.  Eventually the stress of the situation began to where me down, and I became ill from it all.  It was only a "flu" but was by far the worst I had ever had it - it took me weeks to recover.  After that I wouldn't go near conspiracy research for months.  It was about six months before I started reading about it again...and a year before I would openly discuss it all again.

I came to find a personal "solution" to this.  Much like others have on these forums.  I won't share that with you; because you have already stated it would be of no value to you.

I hope you can find some form of solution for yourself though - if that is indeed what you are after.  But in the mean time, I, and probably others here would be interested to here your story.  (If indeed you feel it relvant to share in anyway).

And yes, I appreciate that online communicating isn't always the best way.  And whilst most places usually consist of people merely speaking at each other, rather than having converstations - for the most part I think this forums is a lot different (better) than that; even if - for you- that may not have been apparent in this thread.

Anyway, the floors open if you want to talk about it - and if you see any value in it - there are people listening; in it's not about being some form of "support" group.  Support groups ultimatly validate each other.  And this forum is far from being about self validation.

So if you have specifics on how you feel and see things - I for one would be happy to hear...

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Hi Lightwave,

I'd like to echo Marcus and say that I'd really like to hear your story and what's happening to you. I'm sorry that you feel you've been wrongly defined by people. Even though we all know it's wrong I think it's sometimes very difficult to not make assumptions about people, and I think most of us in this thread have perhaps made a few wrong assumptions. Me especially since I thought you were a guy but after reading one of your earlier posts it seems that's not the case.

I think the main problem is that we're all looking through very different lenses here. You seem to be coming from quite a negative place right now which is completely understandable after you've just lost a job and whatever else is happening to you. Therefore it's easy to think that people coming from a more positive mindset may appear to be glib and perhaps even uncaring.

On the whole though I don't think you'll meet a more caring and understanding bunch of people than the regulars of Noble Realms anywhere else on the internet.

You're right in saying that you never asked for help and advice, but it's because we care here that we wanted to give it anyway, even though it wasn't what you wanted to hear.

Anyway, going back to your previous post that I mentioned. It's amazing what can change in the space of 6 weeks. At the end of November you wrote what I thought was quite an inspiring post - http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=903&p=3

It seems that you felt like you were getting close to transending the matrix, and I'm guessing it's for that reason that you've experienced such an onslaught lately. It seems that dark forces are trying to drag you kicking and screaming back down into the Illusion:

You wrote: "So it is getting easier and easier not to worry so much. To let whatever unfold happen, not to fight it so much cause actually it matters less whether I have more or less cause most of it I really can't control anyway. I don't think any of it is why I am here anyway. I believe I am on a quest and all that other stuff just moves me this way and that to give me choice to move me along. Rich, poor, lack, fullfill, more, less it seems all the same. When I was very young, single, small apt. less money I wanted to be married, home, new car, career, etc. I have all that now and sometimes miss those old days. I guess I am trying to say that abundance is really a state of mind not what job you have, or bank account or house, etc. I look at pictures of being 20 and see how beautipful and happy I was and how rich life was and yet I didn't really know it. I was worried about getting somewhere. To have a boyfriend, a cool job, bigger house, etc. I was always trying to get to the next place and I usually did, but now realize all the time I was trying to "get there" I was also not realizing how abundant life was in that moment. Why didn't I know then how wonderful it all was. Why can't I remember each and every moment now how abundant things are. I have to remind myself constantly and then it is sometimes fleeting. Can you imagine if you could live that way all the time. Maybe you can only feel that after you have lived awhile and you look at old pictures and say wow I was pretty cool then and didn't even know it. Maybe it is realizing how precious life is and it is not about things, but just living. Just watching the beauty in the most mundane things.

As hard as it may seem right now I think you need to try and find your old self again, before the current onslaught arrived.  Judging by your earlier post you're clearly aware that this world is an illusion, perhaps you just need to remind yourself of that.

You also said you were trying to make it as a freelancer, I don't know how that's going or if you're still trying to do that, but I have a forum for the purpose of helping people achieve that. I'll send you an invitation to join because you're more than welcome.

Andy

Join me in Peru to celebrate December 21st 2012 - Visit: http://2012awakeningretreat.com/

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Aya ... thanks for posting Lightwaves earlier post.  I had noticed then that she and I share the same birthday ... Nov 17 ...

Lightwaves there are several Scorpios here on NR and I'll bet we all have stories about that Scorpionic intensity which can include feelings of wonderous joy and then feelings of sheer desperation and frustration.  Everyone feels this at times of course - just seems we Scorpions take it to an nth degree. 

Getting fired, not being able to hold a "normal" job, being misunderstood, seem part of a Scorpion's challenge ... but that could just be my own projection smile

Belated Happy Birthday.

Christine B.

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Yes, I recognize the issues.

I would suggest, never force your "hot opinion" against/upon others in daily life.

KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSED (and that's not easy, I know)

Forums like this are much better and savier.

In practice, I think, the best way to do is to help people in being "skeptical" towards the media and government, without taking any position.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

35 (edited by Marcus 2005-01-15 04:01:59)

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lightwave, I really meant that I won't "talk at you" in my post, because as you indicated being talked at isn't usually of much value.

Hope all works out for you!

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Lightwave,

I have no hard feelings, I didn't feel personally attacked. I don't know "where"  (locale or emotionally) you are at and I have never had anybody want to vent without a response. So I apologize for offering advice when and where it wasn't wanted.

Also I don't think anybody here would say, don't share your truth and reality, or don't rock the boat, lets keep the feel good status quo.We are here for you.

Peace,
Teddy

"It means the Matrix can't tell you who you are" - Trinity

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Lightwave - same here; no hard feelings.  I just suggest that you keep in mind that simply by posting in a public forum, you implicitly ARE inviting comments, responses, and yes even advice from others.    I know I've started several threads and didn't agree with some of the comments, so I just ignore them.  Good judgment is not the same as self-censorship.

In any event you seem like an interesting person and I look forward to reading more of your posts.   Cheers.

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Everything's cool here, Lightwave. Sorry for wrong assumptions about you. I have a feeling that if we were sitting in a room talking, we would have avoided this whole mess but that's the nature of trying to communicate this way especially when emotions are at high levels. Hope you find that place of joy again soon.

Now if only I could remember what I was thinking before we got into this whole thing, oh well, we'll get around to it eventually I'm sure.

Stephen

39 (edited by Atlantis 2005-01-16 11:14:41)

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It's even becoming difficult to get the points on this forum, when I really try to give some big hints and items.
Just thinking how many times I was ridiculed and attacked on this forum last days.

Let's say 1% of the population is aware of:

- STS'/astral entities
- demons and elementals
- Chemtrails
- ELF
- angelic energies
- mind-control

The next step is more "provoking" and seem to be completely "out of the box" yet:

- Jupiter is rapidly becoming a second Sun
- staged alien scenarios
- staged second Jezus Christ
- Astral sexual vampires
- Genetic manipulations by ELF and chemtrails
- 2012 is a New Age lie (= not a very popular statement)
- Artificial made tsunami
- German Ufo technology
- Draco Evil Empire ready to attack the Earth
- A Israelian/American military base on the Moon and Mars
- Illuminati's intergalactic plans
- the hollow Earth

I think it will take a lot of effort for NR to get these last subjects more seriously on the topic agendas.

I hope Montalk is very aware of the dangers of debunking the most "incredible".

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

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Atlantis......did you mean for your last post to go in a different thread?   It seems you may have posted in the wrong thread since the things you're talking about don't match up to what's being talked about in this topic...

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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lyra wrote:

Atlantis......did you mean for your last post to go in a different thread?   It seems you may have posted in the wrong thread since the things you're talking about don't match up to what's being talked about in this topic...

No, I want my last post in this topic.

It's all about people who do not GET IT.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.