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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>LipstickMystic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>(This has been the biggest procrastination and avoidance of work week for me...</p></blockquote></div><p>Lipstick, me too!&nbsp; Ah, the double-edged sword of being self-employed.&nbsp; Well let me (selfishly) say that I am thankful for when you are inspired to contribute your thoughts here... vs. working <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />.&nbsp; Sending gratitude to you!</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: School shooting in Montreal...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>(This has been the biggest procrastination and avoidance of work week for me, and I &quot;blame&quot; you guys for getting into such fascinating discussions that I feel inspired to contribute my two cents! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> How&#039;s that for avoiding responsibility? </p><p>Just a quick addition to my old post that Lyra mentions above about how to be invisible....the other piece that&#039;s really important to this to work - besides withdrawing your energy field - is to be STILL.&nbsp; Focus on quieting or calming/neutralizing your emotional and intellectual bodies. So you have emotional neutrality/non-reaction and you&#039;re not hooking into the emotions of other people as you walk along.</p><p>From a clairvoyant&#039;s perspective, there are tons of &quot;umblical cords&quot; or psychic cords of energy being thrown your way when you walk down a street or into a crowded building.&nbsp; I can see these cords as these little fleshy lines of energy coming out at me like ropes.&nbsp; Everyone&#039;s busy releasing lots of emotion, showing off, seeking attention, and throwing out these cords at you.&nbsp; If you&#039;re aware that this happening, you can practice neutrality and non-reaction.&nbsp; You don&#039;t need to be able to &quot;see&#039; this to know it&#039;s happening. It&#039;s enough to just be aware that people are trying to plug into you with various emotions and thoughts to get a rise or reaction out of you - and if you want to be invisible, you&#039;ll want to bypass these cords by not responding.</p><p>Avoiding eye contact is important, too.&nbsp; &nbsp;That&#039;s another big way people plug into you.</p><p>And also....just....try to be....SMALL. </p><p>All of these things will help you to be invisible even in potentially life threatening street encounters.&nbsp; </p><p>Conversely, if you want to get noticed by others, play the narcissist&#039;s game. This involves making your auric field as huge as possible so as to bowl people over with your energy.&nbsp; And make sure you put out lots of sexual cords and hooks to plug into anybody who is receptive, and try to get lots of loosh harvest off of people by stirring up their sex drives and their emotions.</p><p>All of this stuff works two ways. It&#039;s neat to practice BOTH sides of the energy thing, because then you can see how it works.&nbsp; I used to be a stage actress and learned the part about making my aura huge and plugging into people - mostly plugging in through the heart, because I wanted to express love and positive energies towards people.&nbsp; Nowadays I&#039;m more in a hermit/writer stage, where I try to leave as little &quot;imprint&quot; as possible in my daily life around town.&nbsp; It works out well. Nobody really knows me or what I&#039;m about (unless I want them to,) which means I&#039;m not constantly picking up on low level, judgmental thoughtforms from people (about how I write astrology columns for a living, yada yada, and how I&#039;m that weird psychic chick, yada yada. It&#039;s nicer when people don&#039;t know a damned thing about me if I have to bump into them at the store, etc.)</p><p>I believe many mystical masters have talked about the need for anonymity and invisibility to maintain your energy reserves - I think Carlos Castaneda wrote about this, didn&#039;t he?&nbsp; </p><p>Anyway, it&#039;s important to take your aura out for a test drive and get it to do all manner of things so you can understand how to shape and use energy. That way, you&#039;ll be prepared for all situations.</p><p>LipstickMystic aka Jennifer</p><p>PS&nbsp; I talk about about life and death street situations above....and this is no joke. I&#039;ve had my share of death threats from physical stalkers and at one point was forced to live in extremely close proximity to two of them because the police didn&#039;t take my complaints seriously and at the time I couldn&#039;t afford to move.&nbsp; So that was interesting, walking by my stalkers on the street and them not even &quot;seeing&quot; me.&nbsp; </p><p>And in another situation - well, this was more of an instance of positive synchronicity or psychic shielding/avoiding violence, but it&#039;s related to being invisible....This happened while I was still living in Princeton, right around the time it seemed to...change...and perhaps become a hologram or overlay from the Matrix, because it didn&#039;t feel REAL anymore and had turned so negative.....anyway, I was headed to my office for an evening appointment and was walking down the street to my car....and not two minutes before that some bank robbers with rifles had hijacked somebody in a car right there and forced the driver at gunpoint to take them for a drive as part of their escape from the police....and there were no signs of this when I went to my car, I learned about this later. The person had been pulling out of the same parking lot where my car was, and had I been there two minutes earlier, I would have probably been the one who had been hijacked at gunpoint.&nbsp; Fortunately, they let the driver go and didn&#039;t hurt him, but still. It was a pretty &quot;BIG&quot; event for a town with relatively no crime - at the time.&nbsp; And I was very glad that my own sense of psychic shielding and self-protection was in place, because I think it prevented me from experiencing a negative synchronicity and aligning myself with that car hijacking. So psychic self-protection can work at several levels - making you invisible to chaotic people and helping you to unconsciously avoid chaotic events because you simply aren&#039;t attuned to them. You&#039;re on a different vibrational level where you are not willing to entertain self-damage.</p><p>LipstickMystic aka Jennifer</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-15T17:22:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: School shooting in Montreal...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>druid wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Now that I live in MTL, I have a sudden fear when gansta-ghetto druggies are looking at me when I am waiting for the bus at 10 PM when there&#039;s no one around.</p><p>When I lived in Quebec city, I had none of these fears. Occasionnaly, some people are molested in the street, but it is very rare, no more than three or four times a year.</p><p>when I lived in a banlieue of Quebec, one could only be frightened of little kids menacing you to kick your ass if you didn&#039;t give them your money right away. Of course you just laugh and ignore them and the&#039;ll feel stupid and let you go. But in MTL, I woudn&#039;t dare...</p></blockquote></div><p>Do they allow pepper spray in Canada?&nbsp; Here in the U.S. in most states you can purchase pepper spray, or what I have which is combination pepper spray and tear gas (!), which I got at an Army Navy store in Florida.&nbsp; With a canister of that on your key chain you never have to worry.&nbsp; Anybody who gets hit with that is going down....it BURNS.&nbsp; &nbsp;It&#039;s quite liberating to have that.&nbsp; But yeah, figure out a way to arm yourself in some way so you don&#039;t feel so vulnerable.&nbsp; Or even better, if you have &quot;abilities,&quot; then utlize psychic protection barriers around yourself, invisibility/frequency shielding, that sort of thing, which means when you&#039;re walking down the street and you happen to come upon some thugs, they somehow will be &quot;oblivious&quot; to you....see you, but yet not even notice you....feel a push <em>away</em> from you rather than a tug to hone in on you....or if you&#039;re really good, then not even see you at all!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; &nbsp;But yeah, there are definitely ways to deal with this sort of thing.&nbsp; &nbsp;Lipstick Mystic mentioned on another thread some months back her experiences with frequency shielding and &quot;invisibility&quot; in crowds, and so maybe you might want to start practicing doing that during the day, when you&#039;re out and about in the world.&nbsp; Play around with barriers on yourself, see if you notice people suddenly not seeing you, and when you get good I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll be able to do that at night on empty streets or at the busstop, and watch those thugs pass right on by.....seeming to not even notice you.&nbsp; Cool stuff!</p><p>Or you know, you can just get some pepper spray.&nbsp; Either one works.&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><br /><p>EDIT:&nbsp; &nbsp;Found the LipstickMystic info. on frequency shielding/invisibility, in the &quot;Mercury and Jupiter retrograde, oh my!&quot; thread.&nbsp; It&#039;s worth pointing out again:</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Lipstick Mystic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Or, work on the &quot;invisibility&quot; thing, which also can be effective. Withdraw your auric field so that, instead of it sitting out several feet from the body, the edge of it is very close to your skin.</p><p>This is the shamanic technique that&#039;s kept me alive on more than one &quot;death threat/stalker&quot; situation.</p><p>If you&#039;re going to ask me HOW you withdraw your auric field, or &quot;Am I doing it right?&quot; well, I&#039;m afraid that&#039;s the problem right there.....you have to just be clear in your intent, be able to say, &quot;I&#039;m withdrawing my energy field NOW&quot; at a moment&#039;s notice, and be confident with your intention.&nbsp; It&#039;s more a trick of the mind than any big estoric woo-woo thing.&nbsp; </p><p>I encourage everybody to practice this technique.</p><p>Next time you&#039;re at a mall, a school, or other crowded place moving among the masses, try it.&nbsp; </p><p>&quot;I hereby withdraw my energy field.&quot;&nbsp; Baam.</p><p>See if people stop &quot;seeing&quot; you.</p><p>You&#039;ll be able to track the effects this way.</p><p>1) Nobody will be looking you in the eye, they won&#039;t be drawn to you.&nbsp; Even if you&#039;re wearing a miniskirt, fishnet stockings, and a bare midriff ala Britney Spears, they will NOT look at you.&nbsp; (I tested that one in the old days - it was fun!)</p><p>2)&nbsp; The way the invisibility things works is that you just fade into the background.&nbsp; You&#039;ll see people kind of part like the Red Sea as they come near you.&nbsp; They won&#039;t BUMP into you, it&#039;s more that they will have a low level aversion like &quot;I shouldn&#039;t walk over there.&quot;&nbsp; So if you&#039;re in a crowd, you&#039;ll actually find it EASIER to navigate through the masses if you do the invisibility thing correctly. </p><p>So look for the two effects....no eye contact, nobody checking you out, and also people kind of parting like the Red Sea as you move through them.</p><p>Very cool stuff, the invisibility trick. I think it&#039;s important to master this so you can do it very quickly should you find yourself in a bad situation with an OP or non-human or other negative type who could endanger you.</p><p>It&#039;s also good for avoiding abusive ex-boyfriends or ex-friends while still getting to hang out at all the same places you used to go.&nbsp; You&#039;ll be there, but they won&#039;t &quot;see&quot; you.&nbsp; <a href="http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2986">http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2986</a></p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: School shooting in Montreal...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Now that I live in MTL, I have a sudden fear when gansta-ghetto druggies are looking at me when I am waiting for the bus at 10 PM when there&#039;s no one around.</p><p>When I lived in Quebec city, I had none of these fears. Occasionnaly, some people are molested in the street, but it is very rare, no more than three or four times a year.</p><p>when I lived in a banlieue of Quebec, one could only be frightened of little kids menacing you to kick your ass if you didn&#039;t give them your money right away. Of course you just laugh and ignore them and the&#039;ll feel stupid and let you go. But in MTL, I woudn&#039;t dare...</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i thought lyra and treehuggers comments were funny, but still.&nbsp; i have hitchiked across the US and canada and can definitely say that canada seemed a lot safer.&nbsp; i live in the ghetto, and many people have guns here.&nbsp; they are definitely not using them for hunting either.&nbsp; a friend of mine just got robbed at gunpoint last month, actually.&nbsp; if you are living in a middle class neighborhood though, you will never have to worry about violence.&nbsp; i appreciated the joke, though.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-14T22:57:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Reminds of the trench coat mafia killers in Columbine, Denver.</p><p>----<br />Two killed, 20 injured in Montreal school shooting</p><p>Associated Press | September 13, 2006</p><p>A gunman sporting a Mohawk haircut and a black trenchcoat opened fire with an AK-47 rifle at a Canadian college, killing at least one person and injuring 20 before police shot him dead, officials, witnesses and news reports said here. </p><p>The gunman entered Dawson College, an English language school in downtown Montreal , and opened fire at 12:45 pm (1645 GMT), city police chief Yvan Delorme told reporters. </p><p>The incident paralyzed downtown Montreal as terrified students fled in droves and police blocked off streets, even closing a metro (subway) station that directly accesses the college. </p><p>Delorme said authorities did not know of a motive for the shooting, but said there were no indications that it was an act of terrorism or was motivated by racism. </p><p>&quot;For now, I will only say there is one suspect who is dead following the arrival of the first police on the scene,&quot; said Delorme. </p><p>Police killed the shooter, Delorme said. &quot;I cannot confirm that there is another suspect,&quot; he added, giving no further details. </p><p>After the press conference, Radio-Canada reported that a 20 year-old woman died of her wounds. Police had not yet confirmed her death. </p><p>Delorme said 20 victims were hospitalized following the shooting, at least three with serious injuries. </p><p>&quot;At 12:41 pm (1641 GMT), an individual penetrated the establishment and opened fire in different places,&quot; said Delorme. Police showed up three minutes later and quickly took control, Delorme said. </p><p>Authorities evacuated an adjacent commercial skyscraper and its retail center, in which witnesses said they heard the gunfire, television networks reported. </p><p>&quot;We were in class. We heard gunshots, a couple of gunshots. We heard a bunch of girls yelling,&quot; student Daniel Harrosh, 17, told AFP. &quot;I opened the door, I saw a bunch of people running, I closed it, then the teacher came. He locked the door and then said something major was going on in the other room. At a certain point, the lights went off. We heard several gunshots, a dozen maybe.&quot; </p><p>Another witness, Michel Boyer, told CTV television that he &quot;saw the gunman who was dressed in black and at that time he was shooting at people. It was probably one of the most frightening moments of my life.&quot; </p><p>Hours after the shooting, groups of students still shocked by the incident sat near the police perimeter surrounding the campus, hugging each other for comfort. Curious onlookers flocked to the site as helicopters circled above. </p><p>Student Roxanne Michaud, 19, told AFP that she locked herself into a classroom with four other students and two professors for two and a half hours when the shooting began. &quot;We listened to the radio and checked the Internet to find out what was happening,&quot; she said. &quot;We couldn&#039;t call anyone because the portable telephones did not work.&quot; </p><p>Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper described the incident as &quot;a cowardly and senseless act of violence.&quot; </p><p>He added: &quot;Our thoughts and prayers are with the injured and their loved ones, and to the students and staff of the college who are all victims of this terrible tragedy.&quot; </p><p>Montreal Mayor Gerald Tremblay described the incident as a &quot;very unhappy event,&quot; but also one that was &quot;isolated.&quot; </p><p>Quebec Premier Jean Charest said that the whole province was &quot;distressed&quot; by news, and expressed &quot;deep sorrow for the victims, the families, (and) for the parents who have children studying at Dawson.&quot; </p><p>The shooting recalled the so-called Montreal Massacre on December 6, 1989, at Montreal&#039;s engineering school Ecole Polytechnique. </p><p>In that incident, a gunman, Marc Lepine, killed 14 female students before killing himself. </p><p>And in August 1992 a professor at Concordia University in Montreal killed four colleagues.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-14T18:15:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s something from prisonplanet:<br />At Least 12 Shot at Montreal College </p><p>PHIL COUVRETTE / AP | September 13 2006</p><p>(Comment: The fact that in all these cases the assailant kills himself strongly suggests some kind of outside influence is involved. Watch for this to be used to push more gun bans and more authoritarian measures and surveillance in schools.) Not just in schools...</p><p>A gunman in a black trench coat opened fire Wednesday in the cafeteria of a Montreal college and wounded at least 12 people - six critically - before shooting himself, witnesses and authorities said. </p><p>Scores of panicked students at Dawson College near downtown fled into the surrounding streets after the shooting broke out in the school of about 10,000. Some had clothes stained with blood. </p><p>Police spokesman Ean Lafreniere said there was just one gunman at the school and the search for any others was over. </p><p>Martine Millette of the Montreal police said the gunman later shot himself. Constable Philippe Gouin said ``in all probability, the suspect has committed suicide.&#039;&#039; </p><p>CBC-TV showed police with guns drawn standing behind a police cruiser as a SWAT team swarmed the 12-acre campus. </p><p>Seeta Ramdass of Montreal General Hospital said 12 people, were admitted, including six who were in critical condition. Two were listed in serious condition and four were stable. </p><p>Student Devansh Smri Vastava said he saw a man in military fatigues with ``a big rifle&#039;&#039; storm the cafeteria. </p><p>``He just started shooting at people,&#039;&#039; Vastava said, adding that he heard about 20 shots fired. He also said teachers ran through the halls telling students to get out. </p><p>Other witnesses spoke of a gunman wearing a black trench coat. </p><p>``We all ran upstairs. There were cops firing. It was so crazy,&#039;&#039; Vastava said. ``I was terrified. The guy was shooting at people randomly. He didn&#039;t care he was just shooting at everybody. I just got out.&#039;&#039; </p><p>Derick Osei, 19, said he walking down the stairs when he saw a man with a gun. </p><p>``He ... just started shooting up the place. I ran up to the third floor and I looked down and he was still shooting,&#039;&#039; Osei said. ``He was hiding behind the vending machines and he came out with a gun and started pointing and pointed at me. So I ran up the stairs. I saw a girl get shot in the leg.&#039;&#039; </p><p>Osei said people in the cafeteria were all lying on the floor. </p><p>``I saw the gunman who was dressed in black and at that time he was shooting at people,&#039;&#039; student Michel Boyer told CTV. ``I immediately hit the floor. It was probably one of the most frightening moments of my life.&#039;&#039; </p><p>``He was shooting randomly, I didn&#039;t know what he was shooting at, but everyone was screaming get out of the building,&#039;&#039; Boyer said. ``Everybody was in tears. Everybody was so worried for their own safety for their own lives.&#039;&#039; </p><p>A SWAT team and canine units were at the campus, going floor by floor to look for victims, Sgt. Giuseppe Boccardi told CNN. </p><p>``Most of the students have exited the college grounds,&#039;&#039; he said. </p><p>People have also been evacuated from two nearby shopping centers. </p><p>Canada&#039;s worst mass shooting also happened in Montreal. Gunman Marc Lepin killed 14 women at the Ecole Polytechnic on Dec. 6, 1989, before shooting himself. </p><p>The 25-year-old Lepine roamed the halls of the school firing a rifle, specifically targeting women whom he claimed in a suicide note had ruined his life. Nine other women and four men were wounded. </p><p>That shooting spurred efforts for tighter gun laws and greater awareness of societal violence - particularly domestic abuse. Canada&#039;s tighter gun law was achieved mainly as the results of efforts by survivors and relatives of the victims. </p><p>Another shooting in Montreal occurred in 1992, when a Concordia University professor killed four colleagues. </p><p>Dawson College was the first English-language institution in Quebec&#039;s network of university preparatory colleges when it was founded in 1969. It is the largest college of general and vocational education, known by its French acronym CEGEP, in the province.</p><p>-----</p><p>In fact 20 shots were fired, many were injured, one dead and the shooter commited suicide. At least I think it is the true version.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-14T17:27:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Marcus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think that goes both ways though doesn&#039;t it...</p></blockquote></div><p>Oh definitely......even here within America, people are detached from other parts of their own country and have weird assumptions or totally ignorant cluelessness about what other states are like.&nbsp; Let alone making assumptions about what other countries must be like!&nbsp; &nbsp;When I first moved to Orange County, California from Connecticut in highschool I soon discovered that the kids in my classes - who were all supposed to be these smart, high honors super achievers - had no clue about Connecticut.&nbsp; Didn&#039;t know where it was on a map.&nbsp; Had trouble pronouncing it.&nbsp; Kept confusing it with &quot;Kentucky.&quot;&nbsp; The best question I got was, &quot;Did you guys have MTV?&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>Yeah, and we done had electricity and indoor plumbin&#039; too.&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" />&nbsp; Man alive.&nbsp; So yeah, it definitely goes both ways, and then some.&nbsp; !</p><p>Have to admit though I don&#039;t watch the Simpsons, so I&#039;m totally at a loss for what is going on in those pics!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; Okay, we have the flag of England, and a picture of the Queen in the background of some people sipping tea.&nbsp; &nbsp;But what in the flippity flap is Homer <em>doing</em> in that flag pic??&nbsp; What&#039;s the message??&nbsp; Anybody??&nbsp; &nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-14T16:04:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It&#039;s funny to read other people&#039;s perceptions of what America must be like.</p></blockquote></div><p>I think that goes both ways though doesn&#039;t it... <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>People often tend to have odd ideas about countries they haven&#039;t visited.&nbsp; It&#039;s actually strange how such perceptions arise.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/03/entertainment_enl_1069325687/img/laun.jpg" alt="http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/03/entertainment_enl_1069325687/img/laun.jpg" /></span></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.mundosimpson.com.ar/imagenes/promocards/eabf22a.jpg" alt="http://www.mundosimpson.com.ar/imagenes/promocards/eabf22a.jpg" /></span></p><p><img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Marcus]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-14T15:54:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: School shooting in Montreal...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>---- wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I knew that the dig at American use of firearms would bother Americans, but I did not expect members to make light of it - especially Lyra. Google search with &#039;firearms&#039;&nbsp; + &#039;america&#039; + &#039;street&#039; yields 33,600,000 hits. Americans are so jaded about firearms - note the lighthearted responses. Ony one soul &#039;transient&#039; was compassionate in his reply.<br />Lyra, I have been many, many times to USA, as well as around the world (even Colombia 3 times, where its almost as dangerous as USA). My friend is a cop in Seattle, and I have been many times on raids and actions with his team. I&nbsp; know of the dark underbelly.<br />Have those who made lighthearted comments ever travelled putside USA (no, trip to Mexico to get drunk hardly counts). Maybe you are one of the lucky few (20%) of Americans that has a passport.<br />Review the following article on firearms in USA.</p><p>Trading guns on America&#039;s streets<br /><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/global_crime_report/crime/tradingguns1.shtml">http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/progr … uns1.shtml</a></p><p>&quot;There are more than 200 million guns in private hands in America. More than all the guns of world&#039;s armies put together.&quot;</p><p>While its true that firearms are less frequently carried in the open, they are concealed, or hidden in car, house, purse, ...</p><p>Really, what did you find offensive about my post. The violence in the incident was offensive. Why did you choose to respond to one sentence? Odd.</p><p>p.s. Remember to keep those weapons clean - your country needs you in Iraq (soon).</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, sorry if I offended YOU. Im 49yrs old, have lived ALL over the USA, have lived outside the USA, (and no, that doesnt include a drunken stay in Mexico) and know quite a few people (sorry folks, this is going to be a run-on sentence!) in the military, law enforcement etc. I can honestly say, the only person in that whole group that I know has a gun (not even my freind the cop has any guns except the one firearm he uses for work, and that is under lock and key when he&#039;s home) is my son-in-law. He has a handgun, much to my daughters consternation.&nbsp; The only other people I can think of that had guns when I was a kid were in upstate New York, and they used those for deer hunting.&nbsp; So sorry, you have a big misconception about the &quot;GENERAL&quot; population.&nbsp; Yes, there is a seedy underworld in the US, but its no worse than anywhere else. I could say the same about Canadians. I grew up just across the border from Canada, and used to go their in the summer with friends. A lot of the people who owned cabins up there had guns. So am I supposed to assume because they did that everyone&nbsp; in Canada is a gun-toting Canook? C&#039;mon. We responded to that one sentence because you made a generalization about America that we found ridiculous.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[treehugger]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-14T15:28:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: School shooting in Montreal...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>---- wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I knew that the dig at American use of firearms would bother Americans,</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, I didn&#039;t take it as a dig.&nbsp; It sounded to me like a comment born out of ignorance.&nbsp; A dig usually has an edge of sarcasm to it, with some sort of negative emotion driving it, whereas your comment was emotionally neutral, and just seemed to be spouting an idea based on lack of knowledge:</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>---- wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You understand, that <strong>a man with a rifle on a street</strong> in Canada is an almost unheard of event (<strong>unlike, say, any city in the USA) </strong></p></blockquote></div><p>It came across as if you sincerely (mistakenly) believed that it&#039;s not unheard of (translation = quite common) to see people on a street in any city in the USA with a rifle.&nbsp; And let me tell you, it&#039;s not.&nbsp; You don&#039;t just see people openly walking around toting rifles on American streets.</p><p>However, I didn&#039;t say that people in America don&#039;t own guns.&nbsp; </p><p>Nor am I disputing the &quot;American crime underbelly&quot; that you referred to.</p><p>My comment was just in reference to what in retrospect seems to be an ill-worded observation on your part.&nbsp; </p><p>And as far as the lighthearted joke story about Americans and their guns, well, that was just put in there for fun.&nbsp; If you don&#039;t like it, you can always skip over it.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-14T15:05:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: School shooting in Montreal...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I knew that the dig at American use of firearms would bother Americans, but I did not expect members to make light of it - especially Lyra. Google search with &#039;firearms&#039;&nbsp; + &#039;america&#039; + &#039;street&#039; yields 33,600,000 hits. Americans are so jaded about firearms - note the lighthearted responses. Ony one soul &#039;transient&#039; was compassionate in his reply.<br />Lyra, I have been many, many times to USA, as well as around the world (even Colombia 3 times, where its almost as dangerous as USA). My friend is a cop in Seattle, and I have been many times on raids and actions with his team. I&nbsp; know of the dark underbelly.<br />Have those who made lighthearted comments ever travelled putside USA (no, trip to Mexico to get drunk hardly counts). Maybe you are one of the lucky few (20%) of Americans that has a passport.<br />Review the following article on firearms in USA.</p><p>Trading guns on America&#039;s streets<br /><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/global_crime_report/crime/tradingguns1.shtml">http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/progr … uns1.shtml</a></p><p>&quot;There are more than 200 million guns in private hands in America. More than all the guns of world&#039;s armies put together.&quot;</p><p>While its true that firearms are less frequently carried in the open, they are concealed, or hidden in car, house, purse, ...</p><p>Really, what did you find offensive about my post. The violence in the incident was offensive. Why did you choose to respond to one sentence? Odd.</p><p>p.s. Remember to keep those weapons clean - your country needs you in Iraq (soon).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[----]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-14T14:53:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: School shooting in Montreal...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>treehugger wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh come now Lyra, Im sure you have seen me walking the downtown mall with my purse on one shoulder and my uzi on the other? <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>This is probably a good place to mention to the forum the story of when you and I first met in person.&nbsp; </p><p>So there we were, montalk, morningsun76 and myself, walking through the downtown mall (it&#039;s a street that&#039;s closed off to traffic, with shops, restaurants and local merchants selling their wares)&nbsp; We&#039;re heading to the Mudhouse Coffeehouse to meet up with treehugger.&nbsp; But you know how it is in America.&nbsp; It&#039;s impossible to tell anybody apart....you have to look at their guns.&nbsp; &nbsp;It&#039;s the only way we Americans know how to recognize each other.&nbsp; &nbsp;So we get to the Mudhouse - fully loaded down, packin&#039; heat - and we see what we guess may be treehugger outside on a bench.&nbsp; We don&#039;t know it&#039;s her for certain though til we zoom in on the uzi she has lying next to her on the bench.&nbsp; THEN we know.</p><p>&quot;TREEHUGGER!&quot;&nbsp; we yell with glee.&nbsp; We pile over to her, and all four of us excitedly pull out our weapons and pass them around, ooohing and ahhing.&nbsp; &nbsp;I fire off a few rounds in the air just to make sure it&#039;s a decent, high quality uzi.&nbsp; &nbsp;A passing bicycle cop cruises by and gives me a wink, and a big thumbs up, then pulls out his 9 millimeter and holds it up in the air for us to admire as he rolls past.&nbsp; &nbsp;Then we all head on into the Mudhouse to get our coffees.&nbsp; It was mayhem in there though....everybody randomly firing guns and stuff.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>America....gotta love it.&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Aaaah, I remember that day well.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[treehugger]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-14T13:25:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: School shooting in Montreal...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>treehugger wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh come now Lyra, Im sure you have seen me walking the downtown mall with my purse on one shoulder and my uzi on the other? <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>This is probably a good place to mention to the forum the story of when you and I first met in person.&nbsp; </p><p>So there we were, montalk, morningsun76 and myself, walking through the downtown mall (it&#039;s a street that&#039;s closed off to traffic, with shops, restaurants and local merchants selling their wares)&nbsp; We&#039;re heading to the Mudhouse Coffeehouse to meet up with treehugger.&nbsp; But you know how it is in America.&nbsp; It&#039;s impossible to tell anybody apart....you have to look at their guns.&nbsp; &nbsp;It&#039;s the only way we Americans know how to recognize each other.&nbsp; &nbsp;So we get to the Mudhouse - fully loaded down, packin&#039; heat - and we see what we guess may be treehugger outside on a bench.&nbsp; We don&#039;t know it&#039;s her for certain though til we zoom in on the uzi she has lying next to her on the bench.&nbsp; THEN we know.</p><p>&quot;TREEHUGGER!&quot;&nbsp; we yell with glee.&nbsp; We pile over to her, and all four of us excitedly pull out our weapons and pass them around, ooohing and ahhing.&nbsp; &nbsp;I fire off a few rounds in the air just to make sure it&#039;s a decent, high quality uzi.&nbsp; &nbsp;A passing bicycle cop cruises by and gives me a wink, and a big thumbs up, then pulls out his 9 millimeter and holds it up in the air for us to admire as he rolls past.&nbsp; &nbsp;Then we all head on into the Mudhouse to get our coffees.&nbsp; It was mayhem in there though....everybody randomly firing guns and stuff.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>America....gotta love it.&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-14T13:14:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: School shooting in Montreal...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Oh come now Lyra, Im sure you have seen me walking the downtown mall with my purse on one shoulder and my uzi on the other? <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[treehugger]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-14T12:57:25Z</updated>
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