Noble Realms — Mediumship and the aliens

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (Cipher) — Wed, 31 May 2006 12:18:28 +0000

I came across this a while ago, don't know if it helps http://www.mellen-thomas.com/stories.htm

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (Novice) — Tue, 30 May 2006 23:56:59 +0000

I just found this on Stuart Wilde's web site...seems to reflect what Steve Gamble was saying about the after life illusion.

http://www.stuartwilde.com/morph/Redeem … ed_cog.htm

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (visavis) — Sun, 28 May 2006 23:09:32 +0000

For a very interesting thesis on death/the afterlife/heaven/'the middle'... check out this content as ref'd by Barefoot Doc in the thread:
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 156#p38156 Specifically talked about in chapter 7, directly linked here: http://www.equilibra.uk.com/shop7.shtml

Though he uses different sources, he really unpacks a lot of the mystical stuff Jesus said in apocryphal works... I found this to be probably the most interesting.

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (Magical_Mongoose) — Sun, 28 May 2006 22:43:54 +0000

Yeah, I'd have to agree with Capitan. There just isn't room in Heaven for all this crap. Reptillians in Heaven, sounds like a bad horror film. But, at the same time, I think you would still be aware that these entities do exist if this were the case. I think the true Heaven, being one with God, is the ultimate attainment, yet the "Heaven" we go to after death is essentially a pit stop after death that allow us to rest and plan for the next phase of our journey. Maybe because these reptillians play almost no role in our lives their existance isn't important, and thus we plan no "warning messages" in our lives to suggest otherwise.
But hell, the only inter-dimensional entities I've come across are all in human form. Also, in dreams I've been "abducted", yet once again, they all appeared like regular humans. There was no fear whatsoever, and I took the time to ask them "How do you travel faster than the speed of light in space?". Their response: "Through trigonometry."
Also, how would knowledge of reptillians aid you? If it doesn't make you a more spiritual person, then it's benign or cases of paranoia, detrimental to your progress. Accept that they're there, and move on. They have a purpose like everything else in the universe, and that is to show us how consiousness manifests itself; the different forms, or for lack of a better term, the manifestation of chakra-energy in physical form. They really are just an aspect of ourselves, as all is truly One, yet the possibilities are Infinite.

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (Novice) — Sun, 28 May 2006 15:11:46 +0000

Hmmmm.....food for thought

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (troydungeon) — Sat, 27 May 2006 19:56:28 +0000

Capitan wrote:

It would take someone like hitler or stalin to see them, and I bet they would not be willing to give you some sit down time to discuss this subject with them.

Classic! ROTFLMFAO!!!

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (Capitan) — Sat, 27 May 2006 17:37:48 +0000

I was reading something by T. Lobsang Rompa where he said that when we die we will not be in contact with those of a different frequency. He says that if you were in a marrage of convenience, and did not truly mesh with your spouse then you would not be able to see them when you died.

Perhaps physical reality is a intersection point of some of the higher realites. If you leave this reality in any way (astral projection, channeling, death) you will move in a direction that you are aligned to wether it be positive or negative or somewhere in between. Because most humans are not as self centered STO as the lizzie's perhaps that is why we don't meet them upon leaving this planet, they are too far in the negative direction. Those that are negative enough to see the lizzies are too focused on physicality to be spiritual enough to see them. It would take someone like hitler or stalin to see them, and I bet they would not be willing to give you some sit down time to discuss this subject with them.

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (SiriArc) — Sat, 27 May 2006 09:50:04 +0000

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 046#p25046

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (Barefoot Doc) — Sat, 27 May 2006 08:57:03 +0000

feritciva wrote:

Still I wonder about one thing; probably the manipulation is not ending when you "decease", if you have no idea of what's going on around here, you'll not realize it there too. And maybe incarnate again & again without suspecting anything.

Steve Gamble talks about the after life illusion in these articles and how the archons or controlling hiararchy trap souls to be reincarneted or programmed to attach to new souls again which i found very interesting. Its certainly a new way to look at karma and reincarnation.
http://www.equilibra.uk.com/shop7.shtml
http://www.equilibra.uk.com/shop8.pdf

all the articles http://www.equilibra.uk.com/articles.shtml

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (SiriArc) — Sat, 27 May 2006 07:30:56 +0000

Still I wonder about one thing; probably the manipulation is not ending when you "decease", if you have no idea of what's going on around here, you'll not realize it there too. And maybe incarnate again & again without suspecting anything.

Note:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=3431

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (feritciva) — Fri, 26 May 2006 11:50:34 +0000

I was just trying to ask this in the thread about Dr. Michael Newton's hypnotic regression works. Dr. Newton's subjects never talk of aliens too.

But I think in the same way as Montalk here, they already refer them as angels, guides, sources of light, messiahs etc. Or demons, devils/shaitans, jinns etc. You wouldn't believe how many descriptions are there of other beings in sufi tradition (mystic islamic tradition). These beings generally portrayed as bad (shaitans or jinns) or good (angels etc).

After several centuries I see nearly the same descriptions under names of Nordics, tall guys, reptilians, annunaki etc. in ufo culture.

Still I wonder about one thing; probably the manipulation is not ending when you "decease", if you have no idea of what's going on around here, you'll not realize it there too. And maybe incarnate again & again without suspecting anything.

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (Stephen M) — Fri, 26 May 2006 10:06:04 +0000

Interesting topic, a couple more ideas to throw in:

If you are unable to see them on earth in 3D ( see, meaning conceptualize and thus incorporate them into your reality), why would it be different in 4D? The same filter should apply.

Also, if it is to their advantage to operate in stealth mode as they do in 3D, would it not be the same in 4D?

On the other hand, I would like to think that crossing into 4D would remove that advantage they have of of popping between dimensions (stealth mode, for lack of better term) but perhaps you still need to have the ability to percieve them by having made them part of your reality.

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (montalk) — Fri, 26 May 2006 01:37:13 +0000

It is not as common as one would expect, that's for sure. But aliens still pop up here and there:

http://educate-yourself.org/mw/mw1message31may03.shtml
http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/upd … -024.shtml

Also the sources may not always refer to aliens as "aliens" - maybe they are called archons, devachanic spirits, demons, guardian angels, spirit guides, heavenly hosts, etc...

Some additional possibilities, some already mentioned on this thread:

* Aliens may not exist, at least not in the way we think of them

* Channeling a deceased person may put one in contact with an astral impostor who either does not know, or will not reveal, the truth about the aliens

* If the deceased entity is earthbound in the astral planes, the astral planes being a higher level of third density would still be beneath 4D, thus beings there wouldn't necessarily know about 4D lifeforms.

* If the afterlife takes place in something like 5D, maybe it does so on an encapsulated form that despite the expanded awareness one is not much wiser than one was in 3D. That would explain 3D-type biases carrying over between lifetimes.

* Existence outside 3D may be too compartmentalized according to focus and frequency for things of totally different existences to interact. Aunti Flo is in one realm, 4D reptilians in another.

* The Gnostics wrote about Archons (higher negative beings) possibly interfering/interacting with discarnate souls

* Overall I get the impression that 4D entities are above and beyond the "level" of even departed 3D souls, so the latter may not know much about them.

* As Zarg suggested, maybe the densities or levels are not one higher than the others, but parallel areas of existence. So a discarnate human in 5D may not have a birds eye view of absolutely everything "below" like 4D if it's not really "below".

Just some possibilities in response to your question....

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (zonabi) — Fri, 26 May 2006 00:57:35 +0000

aunt flo, alien repto, spirits, and even us humans and the rock outside all share some point in consciousness, else they wouldnt even exist as ideas and/or manifestations.
we pick what channel to watch, or our minds pick what channels to watch for us if we dont consciously try to tune in to specific ones.

hows that for a new age answer?

but for the number crunchers, i dont feel that deceased human being spirits and lower astral demons think on the same level

Re: Mediumship and the aliens

null@example.com (Pinkrlyq) — Thu, 25 May 2006 23:16:41 +0000

Totally cool topic, and one that I've wondered about, as well.... I do have a couple of things to relate on the subject that has only led me to question it all the more...

1) Psychic/medium visit, 1998... my father and I visited this well known and highly respected psychic/medium after my mothers death in '97.... This psychic supposedly helped police in working on solving the Gacey murders... She "knew her stuff", and was 2nd generation psychic... Well, she was very accurate and informative about earthly and spiritual matters, but when I asked her about extraterrestrials, she looked at me with a laugh and said, "Oh, I don't believe in aliens, so I can't help you with that... My mother believed in them, and I'm sure she could have answered your questions.... " WTF?!... I've also encountered the same reaction upon questioning some other psychics about the matter, at various later dates. They seemed to either think I didn't know what I was talking about or wanted to know everything that I knew so they could educate themselves (false profits, those ones).

Then I realized that we're all operating on different frequencies... And this lady (and many other psychics/mediums) only "tune-in" to what they believe to be true.... And most of those New Agers don't understand that aliens occupy the same realms as us... I don't get it... it's like completely separate topics to them... deceased loved ones and aliens don't co-exist to them.

2) Personal near-death experiences.... On two separate occasions, I've come close to "crossing-over" (not that I was trying, mind you), and I'm not sure if I can trust my own info, as I didn't actually "die"... but upon nearing that "blackness" (open chasm of temporarily suspended everything and nothing), my mind's survival instinct went searching to things that meant a lot to me to try and prevent me from leaving my body.... One of those things was all of my unanswered questions regarding aliens. And much to my surprise, I "felt" that aliens didn't really exist, and not to worry about it... Like I said, I don't really trust my own perceptions, but it was a real feeling at the time, and leads me to question the real origins of these so-called aliens. Maybe we're not understanding their origins correctly... maybe 3rd dimensional beings' souls go to a different realm than aliens? I don't know, but the entire topic is very curious in my mind. It's so difficult to truly comprehend higher dimensions from a 3rd dimension perspective. It's like the whole space/time issue.... which my HS exasperatedly told me one night.... "wherever you go, there you are"