Negative emotions and manifestation (Page 1 of 2)

With help from a friend I made the possible Oct. 17th connection to my manifestation madness:

When I first saw this thread I didn't make much of it because there are always people in the new age love and light crowd saying this and that will happen and vibes are increasing and special opportunities and all that, and I don't want to give away any power I don't have to to info, especially such specific time based info with a cheesy new age slant to it. But based on my experiences yesterday it got me thinking...

Say that there actually was some type of exponential manifestation increase on the the 17th and that it worked both ways (positive and negative)....it's possibly an explanation for what happened to me yesterday. It may be that higher negative beings were also aware of this event and because I failed to heed the warning, my workday was orchestrated (through my scheduling manager, less aware co-workers) to the point that I would be thrown into a particularly infuriating job for the first time, triggering a chain reaction leading to my eventual negative manifestations through the law of attraction combined with the energy of the event itself.  My awareness was still high enough that I wouldn't be seriously hurt by the near accidents, but they were able to get a nice loosh feeding out of it anyway.

Just a theory but I feel I need to throw it out there.  Very interesting on hearing of other people's experiences yesterday if anything has been noticed.

I think you have something there Hermit Brad. Ive had days where I have done something Ithink is embarrassing, and then it perpetuates thoughout the day. Its like you' are "thrown off your groove".  I become extremely self-conscious and almost disoriented, and have a hard time getting back to "normal self", the rest of the day.  For instance, a few weeks ago I was driving with my two daughters. At the last minute my one daughter said, "turn here!", I reacted by turning too sharp and ran up over the curb with a loud bang, which surprised me ( I dont normally do stupid stuff like that!) and when I went to hit the blinker just before that I hit the wincshield wipers instead, and hit the horn by mistake. So now Im thinking, god, I hope nobody I know saw me, it just made me feel soooo stupid. The rest of the day, I just couldnt get back on track, or into my groove. I kept tripping, banging my knee, you know, clumsy stuff. So I can see how my mind is saying to me, " you big moron", just put me in a negative zone for the rest of the day.

Poffo, I also think that when we are in an extremely negative mood, it lowers our vibrations. Its quite possible those cars just didnt "see" you because of that, you were invisible to them.

Isn't this a sadistic, blame-the-victim, or "everything is my fault" kind of mentality? While you responded with anger, what would have been a better choice when you have a car about to run you down? Smile and wave, thumbs up? Just so you leave the driver with a "nice" impression, rather than "negative"? You found yourself in a difficult situation and had to respond quickly. You are saying the entire situation happening is fundamentally your fault? How does the driver tie into it, he is just a pawn of the divine force that responds to your mood?

I totally understand the concept of taking responsibility for your actions. I know I've written about this in other topics, but my experience of the past couple years has really felt like me doing my best to drop negativity and be an open, upbeat, loving person at all times, while experiencing a lot of "negative" circumstances in my life. I feel successful in being present and centered in my self, and I still feel a deep peace inside myself everyday, which I identify as the core of my being.

HOWEVER, my external life has been given me a ton of pressures and difficulties to face, daily, for at least the last two years. During that time period, I have *obsessively* watched my thoughts, maintained an "observer" mode and constantly affirmed for the good of all beings around me, all that sort of stuff. But, I experienced a lot of interpersonal emotional abuse from people that i worked with and lived with, fellow students my age, lots of alienation, lots of what I guess could be "negative psychic attacks".

At this point I feel quite confused about the power of manifestation coming from my "feelings" and thoughts. I am able to find peace in the present moment, and I am able to visualize a "brighter" future for myself, and come up with new ideas every day to work on "improving" my life... while at the same time trusting that all is as it should be, and that I am being guided from higher levels (of myself or from my creator) to the fulfillment of what I "came here to do". But I have been feeling very overwhelmed by the demands of my day to day experience for a while, and mainly have to maintain an attitude of patience and "hang in there", month after month.

All I'm saying is though, it feels like I'm always the "nice guy" who is on-point, balanced, calm and focused, but I am surrounded by a whirlwind of chaotic people and a difficult culture of dissociation. Is this actually a reflection of myself?? That makes me feel out of control. I am unable to "sculpt my surroundings" into what I desire them to be, or at least into something that is not constantly raising difficult issues to deal with, such as poverty, hunger, employment, making rent month by month, very basic stuff. For the past two months our lifestyle felt like the Soviet Union when I visited in the early 90s... burned out cheap apartment with no stove, broken shower, eating off a hotplate. Now we have moved, and I am affirming that I will make the best use of every opportunity to make this new house into a very comfortable home.

But am I being "negative" to even bring this up?? I'm not trying to complain, but shoot! How do I talk about it? Just drop it?

I drop "negativity" very quickly and maintain a balanced observer viewpoint, but I still experience it regularly it seems.

Montalk, honestly I thought What The Bleep was one of the most retarded, New Age sewage movies perpetrated on the white middle class in a long time. It was playing in theatres in Oakland and Berkeley for MONTHS and my girlfriend working at the theatre would watch (white, age 30 and over) people wander out after each showing saying "That was all so true! I really want to find some Ramtha books!" If I can trust my intuition on anything, I got a very strong "bad vibe" about the deception of that film... let's not even start on the dancing hormone scene..
Oh sh*t, I'm getting all negative now.
Tim

I think you mean "massochistic."     And I think you're missing the point Poffo was making.  It's not about "blame" and "fault" and blaming himself for what happened.  It's about how being in a negative, chaotic mood thus attracts more chaotic and negative situations.  And in his case, attracted them pretty instantaneously, creating an almost undeniable connection/correlation.    There's no "blame" in that.  It just is.   

Actually, it would seem that way, yes.   Anybody can be a vector of attack or be used as a pawn for "something else's" agenda.   Some more than others.   Some people are less awake/alert than others which enable "stuff" to be able to manipulate them or even jump into them and use them, thus affecting the "real" people around them.   

Bolded words are my own emphasis in the following quote:

After reading this I got up from my desk at work to get a snack from the kitchen, thinking about your situation the whole way there and back, mulling over why life doesn't seem to be working out for you despite all your efforts to think positive and drop the negative thoughts.   For myself, my life is calm and quiet, very peaceful and nice.  What's the difference here, what's going on?   The first thing that popped into my head, which is kind of funny, is that I just don't give a s***.      There's no "trying" going on.  It's hard to explain.  But in reading your words, in this post and in others, what comes through loud and clear is "TRYING" and "EFFORT."   It was more evident in that one really long autobiographical post you did, where you recounted all the spiritual techniques and methods and modes of being that you and your fiance have tried over the past few years to no avail, but it's here in this post as well, which are the bolded sentences.  SO much effort, so much trying, so much.....work, all this working at being spiritual and positive and "sculping" reality, as you call it.  For me, I've never done such a thing.  I don't give a s***. 

If I had to outline what I "do," it would be this:   My attitude for starters is sort of plowing forward, sort of expecting that things will work out.   Not hoping they will, or working at meditating to "try" to get it to, I just charge forward, not worried about it.

Then I'll get these random flash thoughts about what I'd like or need in my life to help me out or improve my situation....but it's not conscious.   I'm not sitting there, focusing or meditating.  There's no conscious action or effort involved.  These are thoughts that I don't have control over....they just appear in my mind, "I need this...."  "I'd like to have that...."  It's a loud and clear thought, yet, WITHOUT wishful, needful desparation driving it.  It's all very matter-of-fact.   Then the thought is gone two seconds later and I'm back about my business.  That's very important btw.   That's the key.  And lo and behold, very soon after, I'll get what I need.   Things will have fallen into place.   But there is no conscious work or effort to "sculpt" anything.   Because that's not how it works.

The third most important thing is meeting reality half way.  What can I do on my end to help better position myself on the big Chess Board of Life?   If I'm living in a crappy area, I'd move.  If there are no jobs where I am, I'd leave and go elsewhere.  When I'm on a job interview I don't mess around.  I show up early, not just on time, and looking fab.  But that's the gist of it.  And when it comes to having negative thoughts, I don't stress about it.  I don't put forth all this effort to squelch them down.  Many of them I'm able to dodge and give the slip to sheerly through awareness about moon periods and such, but they do still happen, and when they do I let them happen.  Then afterwards I analyze what may have caused those thoughts and reactions, learn something from it all....and move on.  But you know how many New Agers and spiritual practioners get all freaky about the idea of negative thoughts, to the point of going into denial about their "shadow," and/or trying their damndest to squelch negative thoughts down in a frantic way?  Well, trying to suppress stuff and stomp it down never works.  My recommendation to all New Agers and spiritual types is.....Yup.  You're human.  You have negative thoughts.  Accept it, learn from it, and move on. 

Anyway, just thought I'd pass this along.  Maybe it can be of help.   

Montalk was talking about one particular point in the movie - which btw is a very true and good point - but it doesn't mean he was recommending or praising the movie as a whole.  It's not a great movie, (in fact personally, I didn't like it, I wouldn't watch it again.....) and we walked out of the theater shrugging, like, Eh.   But like most sources, it doesn't mean there still weren't bits of truth woven throughout a lot of crap.  It's okay to mention bits and pieces of an overall work that one likes, even if the rest wasn't so hot.   Take away what works for you and toss the rest out, as they say....

??  I'm confused.  Is this in response to my post?

(nevermind, I "get" it now.    "If this had been actual reality...." I like that, hehe)

Hey Lyra, thanks for the thoughtful response, you presented a lot of food for thought. You are right about dropping the "effort" and the "trying". Your bolded quotes presented to me clearly the tone of my message. What I have learned about myself is that I can be effortlessly peaceful in my core even while chaos is happening around me... or at least, what I'm perceiving as chaos. From the stress and frustration in recent times, I think I've been overly focused on how I may have "failed" in my "efforts" and that has made me anxious at times. To be honest, I have been using NR as an opportunity to communicate some of these feelings... I feel embarassed to bring "heaviness" to the board, but in the past I've felt as though I had no one to bounce ideas off of like this, so I have been taking advantage of that.

If anything, I wanted to sort of let Poffo of the hook for responding in what he perceived as a "negative" way after a long difficult day that had exhausted him. And yeah, I meant masochistic. I still feel that it is a bit mean-spirited to place someone in a situation where they are tested with events which naturally put them into an uncomfortable position, but if they respond in anger or negativity to the discomfort, they are made more uncomfortable. Why the uncomfortable position in the first place? I am also unsure how this applies to people who are tortured, or people born into trauma-based mind control. I do understand the idea of like attracts like but there are holes in the theory in my mind, it does not seem to explain everything.

z3n3rg, a long BEEEP breaks the tension. I think it is a good mentality to consider this life as a test. My anxious side is not convinced it is not actually a trap, rather than a test. I am still working on sorting that out. I don't feel trapped, but I am confused.

What's also funny is that when you, Lyra, mentioned how you found your life to be quiet and calm, I realized that this new space I'm in now is very quiet and very calm, and I found that I agreed that my life felt that way too. At least it does today, and I sense that things are improving and changing. Last week it was not nearly as quiet or calm, but then thats all behind me now and it doesn't seem to have "hurt" me in any way. It takes very little effort for me to feel quiet and calm, so now that we've made ourselves a nice environment to experience that in, perhaps we can start having more fun. Meeting life halfway is a good way to look at it.
Peace
Tim