1 (edited by lyra 2004-11-27 22:43:57)

Topic: Everything You've Been Told About the "Grays" is Bunk

Most here at Noble Realms are familiar with the concept of aliens and abductions, and have read the stories and watched the movies and know the general gist.   We have all been given the same script and had it beaten into our heads over and over and over during the past 30 years or so.   So, it's safe to say we're probably all on the same page.     Now, with that established, I'm here to tell you that everything we've been fed is lies.  It's a disinformation campaign designed to get you to lower your defenses and accept something very negative into your realities which, once firmly rooted, can pretty much never be removed.....Like a virus, or parasites, only for your spiritual body, not your physical.

Before going further, I want to make clear that I do believe there are "aliens", if you want to use that term, and I do believe in abductions.  I'm not a skeptic, here to debunk that.   I'm here to present the case that says what we've been told about the nature of abductions, the reason behind them, is lies.

I'm going to try to make my points as quick and easy to read over, because I know we're all busy and we don't all have time to be pouring over article length posts which go on and on.  big_smile     So here's the outline:


- We've all been fed the same script regarding aliens over the past 30 years or so, with the books and Hollywood movies.  "The Script" acknowledges that there are aliens, aliens are real, and humans are being abducted by these aliens.  Sometimes positive, sometimes negative.   

- A more recent, secondary aspect to "The Script" made popular by Bud Hopkins and his book "Intruders" involves the concept of Grays needing to abduct humans for our DNA.  They supposedly want to take our DNA and mix it with theirs, because they're supposedly lacking in the things that make us humans cool wink  due to them cloning those traits out of themselves and having to live underground for so long.  (traits such as - reproductive organs, feelings, emotions, individuality, etc.)    Since so many abductions involved the taking of eggs and sperm and skin scrapings and scoop marks, this "made sense" to people.  Obviously there was some genetic experiment going on, they concluded, (and there is, I'm not here to debunk that) and this caused people to just eat up the theory that we're providing them with helpful DNA so they can gain back what they lost.   Hook line and sinker. 

- Then it got even better with the 2000 movie "Mission to Mars", which flat out states that these Gray insectoid looking creatures seeded US.  THEY are OUR creators.  Translation - they are our Gods. 

-We've seen a related concept to this with the 1994 movie "The Stargate Conspiracy", which propagates the Aliens / Egypt connection, which is another recent trend as seen with the "The Orion Mystery", "Monuments of Mars", et al. 

- All of this is known as conditioning.  Say something over and over enough times and it becomes fact.  Think you're special, that this doesn't apply to you, that you're too smart for that?  Think again.  We've all done it at some point, believed something merely because it was reinforced enough times.   ALL of us.

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So they've got us programmed with the same script.  We've all seen the same movies and probably all read the same books.  "Watchers", "Intruders", "Communion", Betty and Barney Hill, "Chariots of the Gods",  "ET", "Close Encounters", "Fire in the Sky", "Taken".  http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=512    The "$$ Gray Alien $$ Marketing $$ Campaign $$" that existed throughout all of the 1990's.  T-shirts, key chains, bumper stickers, magnets, mugs, posters, jewlery. Anything at Spencer's Gifts, basically.  wink 

- Some people will make the argument that the reason for this sudden surge in books, movies and "Gray" imagery everywhere is because we're finally learning about this wonderful galatic occurance, we're being "ushered into a new age!!" for humanity, to "reunite with our space breathren!!" etc. etc. etc. and all that New Age nonsense.    I want everybody to take a moment and THINK about that.   We should all be smart enough here to question things with the powers of analysis.  IF this were really the case, then why the heavy handed treatment by Hollyweird???  Consider The Source.    Why Now?  Is there an agenda?   Do they have a long term plan of some sort?   Know this:  The Powers That Be operate like a chess game.  They are ALWAYS thinking 20 moves ahead.  They are never just bumbling along without at least SOME long term goal / plan / agenda, without the moves thought out.  In this case what I'm seeing is "INDOCTRINATION" and "BRAINWASHING."    Please consider this before blindly soaking up the campaign like a sheep.


Now, with that in mind, several new and troubling things have come to light in recent years regarding aliens and their agenda.

- These "aliens" have a genetic program going on alright -- but it's not to "fix themselves".  More like it's to ESTABLISH THEMSELVES.   By creating these hybrid human-aliens could it be that they are establishing themselves into our reality by creating beings who have a foot in each door, so to speak?   They are creating new shells that look like us and can exist among us and live here on the surface, where we do......but who cannot house the human soul.  They're creating an entirely new species, so to speak.  Possibly with the intention of weeding us out should all those impending earth changes and natural disaster come to frutiion.

- It's been reported in many cases that these aliens actually feed on humans, both their body parts and most often, their fluids.  The 1980's TV series "V" showed this in fact, with the storage area filled to the brim with human bodies, the way we store beef and poultry in our kitchen freezers for dinner.  http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=827    Bottom line: Not all abductees come back.   Contrary to what the books and Hollyweird movies and New Age programmees spouting disinformation would have you believe.    Problem is, the sources that talk about this aren't necessarily mainstream or promoted.  Only the positive New Age sources get promoted.

- Even more intriguing is the revelations regarding miliitary abductions and experimentations on the general population where "Grays" are used as screen memories. http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=629   The reason being that the notion of "little green men" abducting people is still something regarded as crazy and embarrassing.  People are more likely to keep their flaps shut if they remember being taken by Grays, versus humans in white coats and military uniforms.  It ensures that the victim keeps quiet and the military abductions can continue, unabated.

- A secondary aspect to MILABS is that these "Gray screen memories" are being used not just to disguise the humans behind the them, but rather to actually help spread disinformation about the nature of the "Grays' and "aliens", to help reinforce what Hollyweird and the programmed New Age disinformation agents are spreading.    So many people out there in the world claiming abductions by "peaceful space breathren", and propagating disinformation and lies which encourage others to invite these "aliens" into their reality are really MILAB abductees being used for said purposes.   Pretty scary.  So be careful who you believe.  Again:  Consider The Source.  Use discernment.   Use your intuition.   Don't believe something just because it's fanciful and makes your life more fun and interesting. 



In conclusion, this is what I want to say:

-  The Grays are NOT us.   That is absolute bunk.
-  They are NOT here to gather our DNA to help them because they breeded things out of themselves and are poor hapless victims of cloning.  This is absolute bunk.   
-  We have proof that there most certainly IS an agenda going on over the past 30 years or so to bombard the public with "The Script."   Just peruse the aisles of your local Blockbuster Video or the New Age section of any bookstore.
-  Anything that would abduct you against your will, scare you, traumatize you, take DNA samplings against your will, clone you, create "space babies" with your DNA is negative in nature.  Period.  It does NOT have your best interest in mind.
-  Anybody who believes otherwise, to me, is programmed.   They have been programmed to believe their abductors are positive and mean well.   They may even have personal stories of how their abuctors have "helped" them.    HELLO......of course their abductors would do that.  How else do you keep someone comin' back for more???   How else do you get a victim who will then go out in the world and spread positive disinformation which would encourage others to invite Grays and aliens and abductions into their own life???    I mean, common sense.   It's so obvious.   

And on a final note, unlike many, I don't necessarily believe that these "Grays", whatever the hell they are, are traveling here to Earth from millions of miles away in UFOs on a regular basis.  I think some of them might have done that....in the past.  But for the most part, as of right now, I believe they are already here.   Most likely underground.  So in that instance they are not "alien" or "extra terrestrial."  They're already HERE, with us, right now.  "Transdimensional" is the word for it, since they can materialize and disappear at will and walk through walls.

That's it, that's the gist. I tried to make it as short as possible.  smile   Do with this what you will.   I will leave off with some book recommendations to further research this topic if you're interested:


The Allies of Humanity - An Urgent Message About the Extraterrestrial Presense in the World Today - Marshall Van Summers.  Available here in the Noble Realms file area.  Click and download.
The Threat - David Jacobs
God's Gladiators- Stuart Wilde
The Stargate Conspiracy - Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince.
Bringers of the Dawn - Barbara Marciniak
The Love Bite- Eve Lorgen
The Cassiopaean Transcripts-  Laura Knight Jadczyk and others

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: Everything You've Been Told About the "Grays" is Bunk

Just downloaded Allies of Humanity...

Thanks for the recomendations Lyra.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

3 (edited by lyra 2004-11-28 16:56:23)

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zonabi wrote:

Just downloaded Allies of Humanity...

Thanks for the recomendations Lyra.


No problem....I added some more to the list since I first posted, and I wanted to point out that I think "God's Gladiators" is just as important for people to look at as "The Allies of Humanities" regarding the subject of "aliens", or Grays.    While God's Gladiators' focus isn't all about aliens, it does delve into the topic of the Grays here and there throughout the book, including one whole chapter devoted to it.  Stuart Wilde has had many encounters with them, and his perspective is one that really should be considered.   

Here are some excerpts from "God's Gladiators" I wanted to post here, pertaining to the Grays and UFOs-  The first excerpt is from Chapter 12, called "Abductions, Crop Circles, Cattle Mutilations and So On."  He has his own theories about the Grays, take it as you will.  I just post it here for consideration, because we need this alternate viewpoint in light of all the New Age fluff we're pummeled with.  We're only given one side much of the time, it's time for the other.  smile

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"Abductions are real, though not everyone's abduction is real. Some people must be lying to seek attention, or they are genuine but in error. By and large though, abductions are real and common.

I used to wonder if abductions were in the etheric, like an involuntary out-of-body experience, or were they an actual physical abduction where the body was transported elsewhere? I once saw an etheric gizmo, the size of a teacup, hover in my bedroom. It was a machinethat probed my knee while I was awake lying on the bed. I whacked it hard with the back of my hand.

Anyway, I stayed with the etheric out-of-body version of abductions for a while. But then I began to wonder if this human body was even solid. Do you seriously imagine your body to be real and solid, I'd ask myself. I came to see it as not solid: Nothing is solid in its alternative state. There is no solid. So I finally rested with the idea that the Greys can convert your body into its less than solid state, which is how they can get you out of the room. Interestingly, they have to go through a window. They can't get you out through a wall, so maybe there are varying states of non-solid. Obviously, a window is a lot less solid than a wall-there's less resistance.

Are the Greys studying humans for some reason? I think not. They have been here a long time; there is nothing much else to find out. Are they breeding a new race? A crossbreed? Possibly, but I very much doubt it-sounds fishy to me. I think their main reason for abduction is to generate fear, and to keep selling the idea of technologically superior beings from another planet. Beings that one ought to bow down to and give away one's power to. As said, once an abductee is no longer scared, the abductions stop. So fear is a factor in abductions......"

"....It's okay to be terrified of alien abductions; I was at first until I worked them out. The defense is to first realize that they have no more power than you potentially have. And next, you have to love them. It cannot be a false, mental type of love: "Oh, I love you so much," puke, puke. You've got to mean it. It's as if the power rises from the root chakra to your heart and you then project itforward as a deep resounding etheric love, one the Greys can't resist. Other defenses work to some extent, but  unfortunately the Greys can tamper with anything electrical. They don't like video cameras, and a permanent CCTV puts them off but is not foolproof. An infrared lamp that gives off violet light spooks 'em, and putting fields of electricity around your bed works: use copper wire and a battery. But that doesn't work for long, as the nearer you get to electricity the more likely it is to mutate your cells. Subatomic particles given off by electricity act as a knife and can cut a human cell in two. There is a definite link between leukemia and other cancers, and strong or nearby electrical fields. The Greys don't like strong light. Mostly they operate at night between 3 and 4am. While UFOs usually fly between 9 and 10pm. Tick-tock! Even the transdimensionals have working hours. Spooky...."

"....Cattle mutilations are real. They seem to occur mostly in northern New Mexico and southern Colorado. The military has been linked to cattle mutilations, but I think it's the transdimensionals. They may be studying cows, but I doubt it. There isn't much to a cow that they couldn't learn real quick if they wanted to. They are mutilating cattle for the same reason they do everything else: to create mystery and fear. It also strengthens the illusion of their phony genetic research. The bullshit of the Grey's genetic research only started after we discovered DNA; before that there was no mention of genetics. I also don't buy the idea that the cow is food for them. Unless they use the blood in some way I don't know about. An etheric being would not be able to digest meat. Greys don't seem to have a digestive system. The food theory is out. I feel sorry for the cows. Then again, humans don't treat cows real well either...."

"....What else? Men in black: apparitions dressed in kit from the late '40s and 'SOs? Just another shape shift. Reptilians? Now they exist for real and are entities that look like reptilians and are highly intelligent and very loving. The Reptilians associated with the UFOs seem to be of another mind-set. I have only ever seen one and it was scary, mean, and cruel. Others have seen them though. However, the idea that Reptilians take on human form and become the British royalty is unproven in my view. I don't think they really need to adopt human form as they can enter the mind of anyone who will accept their message, as can you....."

"Mindscan is the process described by abductees whereby the Greys or the Nordics stare into the abductees' eyes close up and read or download the contents of their mind. This sounds true, though I have never seen it done myself. But it's easily doable and nothing special: simply more posturing by the Greys in my view. It's all posturing in my view, on the ground and above it."

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From another chapter, where he writes about his personal exploits and experiences in a humourous 3rd person voice:

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"Stuie had been talking on a syndicated radio show in America over the phone about what a load of bollocks the power of the UFOs is - that they don't have any tricks we don't have.  (Stuie believes in UFOs, cos he's seen over a hundred of 'em, and the Greys were coming through his walls for about 18 months. He says they are all bullshit, a control trip to con you into thinking they are a higher consciusness from another star system.)

"What else does the Sphere and the transdimensionals need?  Activity - it/they feed on activity.  The energy you spend rushing around day to day, helps to keep the Sphere and the transdimensionals going."
 

www.stuartwilde.com

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: Everything You've Been Told About the "Grays" is Bunk

How do I find the Noble Realms file area to download
Allies of Humanity??? ....yes....I feel stupid wink

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2MuchRF wrote:

How do I find the Noble Realms file area to download
Allies of Humanity??? ....yes....I feel stupid wink

Right here....

http://www.noblerealms.org/files/

smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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WOW !!!
Thanks Lyra...great stuff in there.

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Lyra thanks for the excerpts, this Bill Hicks seems to be very grounded, down-to-earth. I really like his style, very straight-forward and to the point, hes very blunt.
i like that.
I'll have to pick up some of his books.

I have to say i cannot read e-books on the screen for very long, my eyes kind of start hurting. i'd much rather read a physical book . but, that's the tradeoff between paying for it with money or paying for it with headaches... hmmm.

nonetheless, great reccomendations.

(the files section is absolutely great!)

z

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

8 (edited by lyra 2004-11-29 08:57:26)

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zonabi wrote:

Lyra thanks for the excerpts, this Bill Hicks seems to be very grounded, down-to-earth. I really like his style, very straight-forward and to the point, hes very blunt.
i like that.
I'll have to pick up some of his books.

I have to say i cannot read e-books on the screen for very long, my eyes kind of start hurting. i'd much rather read a physical book . but, that's the tradeoff between paying for it with money or paying for it with headaches... hmmm.

nonetheless, great reccomendations.

(the files section is absolutely great!)

z


Bill Hicks?   Are you sure you're posting this in the right section?  I have a Bill Hicks quote in my signature, but here, in this particular thread, I've posted excerpts from the work of author Stuart Wilde.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Oh, i must have gotten confused, your last post with excerpts was from Stuart Wilde; for some reason i thought you were quoting excerpts of Bill Hicks work.

Im sure i'll like both of these Authors !

hehe.

"Take mushrooms folks, squeegee your third f***** eye!"   
- Bill Hicks

i love that one !

i dont know where i got Bill Hicks from, u didnt even mention him here. it was probably another thread i had just read. anyhow, thanx!

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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zonabi wrote:

Oh, i must have gotten confused, your last post with excerpts was from Stuart Wilde; for some reason i thought you were quoting excerpts of Bill Hicks work.

Im sure i'll like both of these Authors !

hehe.

"Take mushrooms folks, squeegee your third f***** eye!"   
- Bill Hicks

i love that one !

i dont know where i got Bill Hicks from, u didnt even mention him here. it was probably another thread i had just read. anyhow, thanx!


No problem, we all do it.  smile   One night it was late and I posted some news articles and personal rants about video cameras being put all around urban cities to "monitor the population" and it wasn't even in the right thread.  !   doh!   hehe

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Woohoo!  Here it is!   smile  Time to tackle the nitty gritty issues about who / what those transdimensional Grays really are, how they operate, why they're doing what they do, how long they've been here, and most importantly.........time to tackle all that bunk about Roswell.   No sacred cows here.  wink  I know, I know, Roswell is fun to believe in and it makes life more interesting.   But maybe it's time we face the truth instead of repeating false stories and perpetuating their growth.

Here are those excellent Stuart Wilde excerpts I mentioned over on another thread on Monday.  Haven't been able to scan and post them until now.  So, here you go....Stuart Wilde, from "God's Gladiators", chapter 9, (bolded words my own emphasis) :

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Let's begin at the beginning.

What is a transdimensional? The answer is, we don't know exactly because by their very nature they exist in etheric planes and those planes are hard to define and are not normally visible to the naked eye.  A simple definition would be: a  transdimensional is any intelligent evolution that permeates the earth plane but is not human, animal, or of the Earth. Transdimensionals are also all those evolutions that are not here, that don't permeate our plane of existence. Transdimensionals would include ghosts, all manner of nature spirits, the UFOs, the Greys, the Nordics, the Reptilians, Bigfoot, the Watchers, the Nefilim, and the Anunnaki (if they exist), the Flying Rods, and any other unnamed, unrecognized entity that is here but beyond our ken.

Let's kick off with the story of the UFOs as that is where most of the transdimensional spookiness appears on a daily basis. The first ever UFO wave of the modern era occurred around August/September 1946 in Europe. It wasn't until 1947 that the pilot of a small plane saw UFOs over Mt. Rainier in Washington State; it was he who coined the phrase `flying saucer.' Now you may wonder what UFOs have to do with the fields and the on ­the-ground controllers, but I hope to show you that they are part and parcel of the same thing.

Let me first say that, there is no evidence to suggest that UFOs are craft from other planets, or even other star systems, and there is only very circumspect and highly suspicious evidence to suggest they are solid, nuts-and  ­bolts craft. The way to work everything out is to proceed in the opposite direction to the flow of information, for the UFO scene is riddled with disinformation, as are crop circle investigations and other transdimensional conspiracy theories.

Think of this: if you wanted people to believe in solid UFOs, wouldn't the supposed crash at Roswell in 1947 work just perfectly?  You deny there ever was a crash, and you offer some blatantly ludicrous explanation about hot air balloons that no one will believe. If people don't believe the government's explanation, then theyhave to believe in the crash. Throw in a couple of rednecks who swear blind their grandpa saw it all happen and bingo! You have pretty much got the story sorted.

From time to time you have to keep the BS alive, so enter Colonel Phillip Corso. A decorated veteran with a fine military record who writes a book called The Day After Roswell. In it he claims the 1947 crash was real and that he was assigned the task of collecting the technology that was recovered from the craft, which eventually led to the invention of night-vision goggles, the silicone chip, and fiber optics. He says it was his job to disperse the recovered technology among American industry, which explains why America has taken such a technological leap forward over recent decades. Pure and utter piffle.

When you sign the Official Secrets Act or any oath of secrecy, the best that can happen to you if you become a traitor is that you spend the rest of your days in the slammer. However, the most likely thing to happen is that you'll be pushing up daisies, six feet under. Security organizations do not piss about. My father was a highly decorated officer seconded to the intelligence service. He would have fallen off his chair laughing at the story. When Colonel Corso wrote the Roswell book, he was living on a cozy pension with all his perks: veteran's benefit, health benefits, blah, blah. While in his cozy cubbyhole he decides to risk everything and spill the beans, violating his oath of secrecy, and no one in the military takes a bit of notice. If Corso was really acting on his own without the permission of someone high-up he would have been picked up a long time before the book even went to press. Only two things are possible. The first possibility is highly unlikely, and it suggests that what Corso wrote was true and that someone in the military intelligence had asked him to put the record straight on his or her behalf, as they had been suddenly overwhelmed with pangs of righteousness. The second possibility, which is very much more likely, is that what Corso wrote about, the technology in the Roswell crash, was part of the ongoing solid-UFO disinformation campaign that the military want us to believe. Everyone who met Colonel Corso said he was a nice guy. He claimed he was never paid a dime in royalties for his book and that was probably right. He was fed the story and he followed orders as he had done all his life.

The famous video of the supposed autopsy on an alien being that had allegedly died in the Roswell crash was a further disinformation attempt; but it fell apart when the video was proven to be a fake. Of course, even though the video was bogus, it served its purpose. Many never realized it was a fake, and anyway, anything that confuses the issue becomes a valuable cog in the disinformation wheel. There have been recent, somewhat feeble attempts to revitalize the autopsy video as the real thing. It's amazing how the game's played.Remember this, in spite of tens of thousands of sightings, photos, and now videos, including the famous UFO `flotilla' videos taken in Mexico in the early 1990s, there has never ever been a photo of a UFO on the ground. The disinformation mill feeds out rumors that the US Air Force has got such photographs, but that is very unlikely to be true, and there is no known photo in private hands. Setting aside officer Lonnie Zamora's alleged on-the-ground sighting in New Mexico, there are very few reported sightings of UFOs on the ground. What does it tell you? A solid craft that transports extra terrestrials has to land some place every so often, otherwise there is no point to the craft. The UFOs don't land. Transporting entities from outer space to Earth is obviously not the UFOs purpose.

UFOs that are chased or followed by aircraft often display enormous bursts of speed, and they are often reported making right angle turns at an extreme velocity. A solid craft cannot stand that kind of strain, nor could any of its occupants, if they were made up of atoms and molecules. The force of gravity of a right-hand turn at thousands of miles per hour would kill them instantly.

The authorities want us to believe in nuts-and-bolts UFOs and solid occupants that mean us no harm. I am almost 100 percent sure that the UFO is in part, if not completely, an etheric phenomena. It may be possible that at a slow speed or at the lower end of the heat spectrum, the UFO shifts from etheric to semi-solid or even solid. But I doubt it. At slow speeds it may look solid but that does not mean it is solid. Instead, I think the UFO is a shape-shifting living entity, as are its various occupants: the Greys, the Reptilians, the Nordics, the flying orbs that are emitted from mother ships, colored lights, and so on.

A number of researchers have noticed that UFO shapes constantly change to fit the perceived leading edge technology of the day. In the late 1800s and early 1900s, UFOs looked like air balloons. During the war they appeared as phantom fighter planes called Foo Fighters. After the war, once Britain had experienced the V2 rocket attacks, UFOs started to appear as flying rockets. There was a spate of rocket-shaped UFO sightings over Scandinavia, especially in Sweden, where many rocket ­style UFOs were seen to plunge into Swedish lakes. Interestingly, Sweden was neutral during the war. So the phony rocket show was just for them, as they would not have seen the German V2 rocket as a part of their war experiences.

It is important to remember that during the war, the Nazis had secretly developed a saucer-shaped flying craft called the Vril. So the first saucer-shaped UFOs in 1947 were just the next shape-shift to follow our technological advances. There are even more recent photos of modern UFOs where the craft have swastikas painted on them, which I find very interesting.  After the Americans landed on the moon in 1969 and the subsequent Apollo missions in the 1970s, we got used to seeing pictures on TV of astronauts wandering around collecting rock samples from the moon's surface. There followed a few rare, alleged, on-the-ground sightings of UFOs, where the occupants stood by their craft also studying rock samples. As usual no pictures were taken. The most famous of these sightings was again officer Zamora's sighting in New Mexico.  After the Americans developed their triangular stealth aircraft, UFOs changed from saucer-shaped to mainly triangular shaped.  Huge, silent, flying triangles are the predominant UFO sighting of the current age.  They are now seen on a daily basis somewhere in the world, usually in America or Europe. If tomorrow we suddenly invent flying telephone boxes, UFOs will appear as huge phone boxes flying about at lightning speed.

....The film Close Encounters of the Third Kind was Hollywood's story of his life. In fact, the film was another large dollop of disinformation.  Hollywood seems to be a major source of UFO and ET disinformation; key players in Tinsel town must know about it. Obviously it suits them to follow instructions. It must be in their interests to do so. Spielberg's benign ET that likes children and just wants to return home is the most outrageous drivel ever offered: It is deliberately designed to confuse people and lower their guard. The occupants of UFOs are not benign. Far from liking children, they abduct them. UFOs are not from the stars, and unfortunately they are not going home. They are here to stay. Meanwhile, they will create as much fear and terror as they can.

The Sphere and the transdimensionals in it feed on many things, but the three things I have identified so far as etheric food for the field are: fear, noise (the human voice), and activity. The objective of UFO sightings and abductions is to fuel human intrigue and fear, as fear is food for the field. They control through people's fear as any good fascist organization might. Those who report having been abducted initially experience extremes of terror, but eventually, as they get used to the experience,their fear subsides. Often, they are then shown terrifying film footage of the world's future destruction, an ecological or nuclear holocaust, tidal waves, tsunamis, and asteroids hitting the planet, blah, blah. This fuels the terror for a while but eventually the abductee becomes blase toward apocalypses. Once the abductee has absolutely no more fear about any of his or her transdimensional experiences, the abductions stop. No fear, no fuel for the field.

If you bear with me, I'm going to show you something that might make you puke with worry (just kiddin'); but I will also show you the escape hatch. They say ignorance is bliss. It is not. It's extremely bloody dangerous. It can be fatal for your soul. I can lead you to the truth of this with a degree of authority because I have endured years of extreme terror to discover the nature of the transdimensionals. It has not been an easy task, as the transdimensionals are very secretive. They don't want anyone knowing what is going on. But I was blessed with perception in this lifetime, and what I didn't get as a gift, I worked on myself to develop. I also had a lot of help ­God's Gladiators. It was perception and the cat's curiosity that drove me forward to discover whatever I could. I didn't get the whole story as it's probably beyond my comprehension, and also, as I got closer and closer it became far too dangerous, so some of the story still remains hidden.

But from my experiences, I can say this: if there is one thing that will serve you more than anything else in this life, more than money, fame, or specialness, it is perception. It is the only currency of choice right now. When you pray to your God, don't pray for safety; pray for perception.  Only the truly perceptive will ever be able to direct their lives to a healthy spiritual conclusion, which I am sure you deserve.

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Amen to that......

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: Everything You've Been Told About the "Grays" is Bunk

lyra wrote:

Amen to that......

Amen to Stuart indeed! Of all the many spiritual authors/teachers I've read, Stuart is probably the only one that I completely trust. And after being lucky enough to meet him earlier this year, my trust in him is even stronger.

Now I don't necessarily agree with every single thing he says. But what I love most about Stuart is his humanness. He has never in any way pretended to be holy and perfect. He's the first person to admit that he's acted like a bit of a shit many times in the past, and he probably still does. In many respects he's a trouble-maker, or at least he's always up to mischief! And I love that about him.

But what I admire, and try to practice, the most is his philosophy of just loving everybody. Read his story about finding the devil so he could kiss him, is a good example of that. At the end of the day, you never know what people have been through in their lives. He personally related a story of a guy he knew who lives in Ireland. Apparantly he was sexually abused by catholic priests from a young age, and that seriously messed his head up and for a lot of years he caused himself and many other people a lot of problems. It wasn't until he reached his 40's where he finally became what most people would consider a 'decent & respectable person'.

This is why I don't like the term 'organic portal'. I'm not saying they don't exist. But unless you know the complete background of somebody, then you don't know the reason why they don't appear to be 'normal'. Perhaps the person you think is an organic portal was sexually abused all through their childhood.

Stuart's philosophy is essentially don't judge people, just love the fuckers! Now that doesn't mean to say you need to hang out with them, or be with them at all. But don't judge them and just send your love to them.

Love is, afterall, the one thing the Matrix hates. It's probably the only force that can destroy it.

Andy

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Wow, very interesting. 

As to the occupants not being able to withstand such G-forces, I've heard the theory that they're robots.  That's also why they are so varied.  There have been reports of aliens being shot, but only knocking the alien down without any perceived injury.  Sometimes people describe metallic limbs, or eyes that focus like a camera lens.  The theory behind this one is that these things are the only that can sustain themselves through long distances.  Perhaps they go out and send data back, foregoing any need for flesh and blood beings.  Or perhaps, through a thoroughly advanced interface, these robots are controlled by the beings themselves.  Or, perhaps, they are simply a high-level AI and act on their own orders.  Or, maybe even these things are what's left of a race, and have become sentient themselves.  Bah, who knows?

As to these things taking the shape of whatever the leading technology, that's very interesting.  I'd seen that theory only one time before, and find it very interesting.  One such story involves and anchor from an airship getting stuck on a church, while Mass was being held!  The people inside came out and watched as a man swam through the air as if it was like water and dislodged the anchor, them swam back up.  Another good point on this shape-shifting thing that I've read is that the species of Nordic and Gray started appearing during WWII.  One commentator thought that this was merely fallout from the psychological stress, seeing that the Nordics appeared as the mind would percieve Germans, and the grays, with the thin body and large almond eyes, as a caricature of the Japanese.

Very interesting.

Also, anyone sense a connection with these "rods" some people film flitting through the air and these etheric life-forms?

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

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Re: Everything You've Been Told About the "Grays" is Bunk

lyra, quoting "God's Gladiators" wrote:

UFOs that are chased or followed by aircraft often display enormous bursts of speed, and they are often reported making right angle turns at an extreme velocity. A solid craft cannot stand that kind of strain, nor could any of its occupants, if they were made up of atoms and molecules. The force of gravity of a right-hand turn at thousands of miles per hour would kill them instantly.

I don't buy this.   I've got video of John Hutchison, the Canadian scientist, messing with gravity fields in his personal shack up in Canada, levitating bowling balls and resonating solid metal objects so they melt together.   If one man can do that on his own, that doesn't leave much room to doubt that governments are able to create craft which use artificial gravity fields not only to speed away at insanely high speeds and make right-angle turns, but also to do these things without the occupants of those craft being affected in the slightest.

lyra, quoting "God's Gladiators" wrote:

... the first saucer-shaped UFOs in 1947 were just the next shape-shift to follow our technological advances ... If tomorrow we suddenly invent flying telephone boxes, UFOs will appear as huge phone boxes flying about at lightning speed.

Courtesy Matt Hurley and ufoartwork.com, here is a picture of a painting from 1486 CE , the late fifteenth century, that suggests Stuart might be off a bit on this one:

http://www.ufoartwork.com/images/ufoartwork_ad/crivell2_compressed.jpg
http://www.ufoartwork.com/images/ufoartwork_ad/Blowcri_compressed.jpg

Here's another from 1710:

http://www.ufoartwork.com/images/ufoartwork_ad/deg2.jpg

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Maybe those were plates or buttons, the leading technology of their day.  Evidence that the frisbee was invented way back when?





I'm just kidding.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.