Ann Coulter, Michael Moore - Right & Left....But no place for me! (Page 1 of 2)

I got libertarian also, even though I'd rather just abolish government and the political system altogether, which I guess is more directly anarchistic. Politics and truth have nothing to do with one another.

I find Ann Coulter shrill, laughably uninformed, an embarassing excuse for what passes for a political commentator/author from the so-called (phony) political "right."  She's annoying and cloying and despicable.  Shills for the phony "right" don't come packaged any better than Coulter. She's never met a "conservative Republican" elite/establishment controlled puppet that she hasn't salivated over in the most embarassing way.  She's pathetic, and so easily seen through.  But then again, what TPTB allow to be paraded before the public through the controlled mainstream media as authoritative political "mouthpieces/commentators" are all at the same level -- give or take a little -- as Coulter.

Michael Moore is another shill -- but for the other side of the controlled paradigm -- the phony "left".  He is also a knowing or unwitting dupe for his illuminati masters with his film "Bowling for Columbine" a propaganda piece extraordinaire for the phony gun-control movement, and of course with Fareheit 9/11, where he takes disinformation to a new level.

They both serve the same purpose...as distraction and disinformation specialists.

Hi Lakme and all,

"She's never met a "conservative Republican" elite/establishment controlled puppet that she hasn't salivated over in the most embarassing way...."  That's a good word for it....salvating.  She spends more than 3/4 of the book I read just falling all over herself and salvating, singing the praises of Republicans and the current cabinet.  She literally idolizes some of them, such as Reagan for instance. These men can do no wrong in her mind.   They are perfect, in every way.  She will make excuses or rabidly defend everything they do.  She absolutely CAN not see ANY flaws in the current admistration and its policies, nor what is happening to this country.  She clings obsessively to the ideals of an America that has LONG since been flushed down the toilet.  This is not the same country the founding fathers envisioned or set up.  But to hear her tell it, it is.   It's absolutely bizarre.  That's why I was so fascinated and riveted.  Her mindset is almost like programming in a way, due to its absolute extreme fanaticism and total blind eye to any shortcomings with Bush & Co., which is something I was kind of dancing around in my opening post.   That's why I'd be curious to see what happens if I were to email her with a neutral set of questions pertaining to the more "conspiracy" type topics.  I expect to either not hear back at all, or to get some scathing sarcastic rabid defense.   

There were two things I did agree with or at least found interesting in her book:  One, any of her commentary on Hollyweird and the ammoral nastiness it pushes on society nowadays.  Specifically she tackled / mocked "Sex and the City".  And secondly, she had like 2 whole pages devoted to the worship / idolization of the Confederacy.  I've never seen something like that before, only because I was not raised in the south, so honestly, I'm out of the loop.   I was born and raised in the northeast, so I'm a Yank, then I spent a decade in SoCal, and never stepped foot in the south until 2002.   So while the whole Confederacy thing is old hat for many Americans, it was a brand spankin' new perspective for me.   Basically, she presents a view that we are not given in school or the media.  I can't even describe it here, you really have to read it and see for yourselves.   But in summary, she says, paraphrase, The Confederate army was the best army this world has ever seen, and the best soldiers and fighters consistantly come from the south, and most of the soldiers fighting for the Confederacy weren't doing it because they owned slaves or condoned it, but rather because the North had invaded their land.   Very intersting indeed, and definitely NOT the perspective we EVER hear in our liberal "politically correct obsessed" media.   So I have to give a big "Hmmmm!" of interest to that for some thought provoking perspectives I've never been exposed to.

She was actually on the Alex Jones show last year when she was doing publicity for a book. Her agent must have screwed up big time! Alex put up with her for a while, but eventually he got tired of her act and hit her with some information. She just pretended like she'd never heard of any of it before, like it was utterly ridiculous, and like Alex and his callers were insane. That's what the shills always do when confronted with reality. They employ a mocking attitude to belittle the opponent rather than delivering any evidence to support their point of view. Here is the mp3. It starts out with the Coulter interview, so you don't have to skip forward when you listen.

She uses a lot of tactics from The 25 Rules of Disinformation: 2. Become incredulous and indignant. 4. Use a straw man. 5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. 9. Play Dumb. 17. Change the subject. 19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. She also exhibits one of Eight Traits of a Disinformationalist: Avoidance. She discounts the facts as "minutiae" in order to pound away at "the bigger picture" which is actually just the party line.

Their mission is distraction and alienation, I'd say. These pundits are shoved in our faces in order to get the people to trade in "pre-packaged opinions" rather than forming their own. This is done to prevent rational discourse. The opinions presented are extremely polarizing because the goal is to get the two "sides" so mistrustful of each other that they would never stoop so low as to work together. The other side is said to be crazy and immoral--nothing more than an army of slobbering caricatures. If the people put aside their left/right identities and start talking about things in a non-confrontational manner, they might come to certain agreements and begin working towards changing the status quo. Eventually they might start to discern truths beyond the black/white paradigm. They become uncontrollable. So they have to kept at each other's throats.

I think the personal motivations for the individual shills are power and celebrity. It probably isn't necessary for the media networks to use directly controlled Matrix agents, because the amount of success and adulation they can confer is enticing enough to attract regular people. Most newscasters are attention whores. They are more concerned with getting "face time" on TV than with journalism. They are useful to the powers that be, because they will say whatever is necessary to get attention. Their pathological need for attention ensures that they will always attempt to crow the loudest. It overrides any ethical concerns they might harbor. They have a psychological need to make the biggest splash and get the most people obsessed with them. All the arguing and controversy feeds their egos. They want to watch the "little people" bend to their words.

Great find, czyx!  I can't wait to listen to this later tonight!  hehe  This ought to be interesting.  But this confirms exactly what I'd been thinking, that she refuses to acknowledge the truth about our reality and "politics", at all, whatsoever.  If she couldn't / wouldn't acknowledge it when talking to Alex, then she certainly wouldn't acknowledge it in any email I'd send her.  It really is like the woman is programmed or something.   How else could a person make it this far in life, to her age, and not see ANYTHING funny going on in the world?  It's beyond having blinders and just borders on programming. 

Exactly.  You got it, right there.

  Try not to hate them.  We all know that they're puppets, so, just try to see them as you would any obstacle or distraction in a video game.    That's what I tell myself to quell any annoyance that may surface. It works, it's amazing!   And remember also that they're "masqueraders."   They're not like you or the others that share your views.  So don't let their actions make you feel crappy about being a human.  Don't flog yourself because of the actions of others.  You're just borrowing that body, remember.  It's all a game!

Sometimes they even wear many layers of masks, like Michael Savage. He was a gay leftist beatnik in the 1960's, and now he has put on the mask of the right-wing extremist as part of a false flag operation. He pretends to be a conservative in order to capture people with conservative leanings and convert them into extremists. He probably thinks he's being sly and doing a good thing as a leftist because his vitriol keeps "reasonable" people away from the right.

His name used to be Michael Alan Weiner, and when he was in his 30's he was writing homoerotic letters to Alan Ginsberg and showing off pictures of himself swimming naked with Ginsberg. Ginsberg was gay, and a member of NAMBLA, the "North American Man/Boy Love Association", which advocates pedophilia. But last year Michael Savage was yelling at a gay guy who called into his show:

"Oh, you're one of the sodomites. You should only get AIDS and die, you pig. How's that? Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig. You got nothing better than to put me down, you piece of garbage. You have got nothing to do today, go eat a sausage and choke on it."

It's just an act! He doesn't believe what he's saying. He's a sociopath masquerading as a human masquerading as a leftist masquerading as rightist.

Yes! This tactic is used at all levels, by individuals and by organizations. It's talked about in The 25 Rules of Disinformation. I've seen it done by reporters, by senators, by TV hosts, by internet posters, and by regular people. Now that you're cognizant of this tactic, you'll be amazed how often you see it! It's nothing more than the unthinking voice of an anti-conspiracy/pro-establishment meme. It's never backed up with any facts. In the rare case that you actually get through to someone and overcome the influence of their anti-conspiracy/pro-establishment meme, they have another line of defense right behind it: the anti-anxiety/pro-establishment meme. This meme says "it may be true, but it's not that bad" or "things have always been this way".

Just finished listening to the show.  AWESOME as always.  Alex Jones is one of the few true patriots out there making some noise.  If you haven't already be sure and help him out by getting some of his videos or subscribing to his website. 

Two other extremely worthy people are Jeff Rense with his radio show, and especially Jordan Maxwell who exposes occult foundations of religions, fraternal orders and governments.