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Topic: Trufax

http://www.trufax.org/welcomemsie.html
Leading Edge International Research Group
Debunking the conspiracy theories surrounding September 11

Re: Trufax

If anyone can find 'Matrix III' by Val Valerian or 'Matrix IV - The Equivedeum' by Val Valerian that would be great - I could trade you some great stuff.

I am as is Void.

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Re: Trufax

FYI.  In the article linked to above, the author is making a play on words and calling the "conspiracy theorists" the people who support the "official version" of events.  This will be obvious to anyone who reads the article, but I understand that some people may stop at the headlines.

See the following quote:

     One of the wilder stories circulating about Sept 11, and one that has attracted
     something of a cult following amongst conspiracy buffs is that it was carried out by
     19 fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin
     Laden, with no apparent motivation other than that they "hate our freedoms."

Re: Trufax

Xenopope wrote:

If anyone can find 'Matrix III' by Val Valerian or 'Matrix IV - The Equivedeum' by Val Valerian that would be great - I could trade you some great stuff.

Oh ? Yes ?

But the stuff is extremley mis-info and extremely dangerous.

Val Valerian is an extremely high MATRIX Agent for the Illuminati.

Montalk has written already on this.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

Re: Trufax

I tried to order Matrix V Gold Edition many times, but every time another problem occured with the bank or money order system or etc. After I found montalk.net, I thought there is no need now and I also heard there is great misinformation in Matrix V.

But Illuminati agents? Not heard that before. I would like to hear your opinions on Leading Edge works. Still I find some useful info on their site.

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

Re: Trufax

Atlantis wrote:
Xenopope wrote:

If anyone can find 'Matrix III' by Val Valerian or 'Matrix IV - The Equivedeum' by Val Valerian that would be great - I could trade you some great stuff.

Oh ? Yes ?

But the stuff is extremley mis-info and extremely dangerous.

Val Valerian is an extremely high MATRIX Agent for the Illuminati.

Montalk has written already on this.

I see. Where can I find that article by montalk? I would very much like to read it.

Why is it _extremely_ dangerous? Because it's inaccurate info or is there another reason?

I am as is Void.

Re: Trufax

Xenopope, I own both volumes of Matrix III and also Matrix IV ... if you have the patience, these will be downloadable eventually. Matrix IV was pretty good, but interestingly it's the only Matrix volume discontinued by Valerian. As for the article Atlantis referred to, here's the link to the un-reformatted version: http://montalk.net/wilde.html  ... it's my review of Stuart Wilde's "God's Gladiators" where I included a brief dig at Matrix V. Any information is worthwhile if read with discernment, of course. You gotta love Valerian for the in-depth material he once provided, but "The Author" of Matrix V is pretty twisted and annoying in my opinion...among other things, I caught him redhanded lying about what Robert Monroe said regarding loosh and discouraging others from looking it up themselves. Then last year Valerian emails me with sacharine ego hooks, asking me to remove all my links to Cassiopaea and link to the Matrix V page instead. I said no thank you and told him to not email me again smile  Not sure if Valerian's always been like this, or if he's been "reprocessed". Either way, he's always had some interesting connections with people high up in the technocratic/occult/hermetic elite. Trufax is an awesome site, but the increasing disinformation component of the site thanks mostly to 'The Author' has kept me from recommending it with thumbs up.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

8 (edited by Xenopope 2004-09-24 00:56:02)

Re: Trufax

thanks, that would be great.

I think it's not extreme misinfo. I think it's extremely true info which happens to be mixed with a slant of perception. So true in fact that _someone_ had to make sure it got released with some filler sprinkled in. Okay maybe that's what misinfo is . . .

What I'm trying to say is that the truths contained in the info could be some of the most accurate, most significant core truths that are available to humanity today.

I am as is Void.

Re: Trufax

A very good website to follow up on conspiracy theories etc. is cloak and dagger (cloakanddagger.ca).  It is on most evenings and the guest speakers are worthwhile listening to.  Sherman Skolnick is the co-host.  Yesterday's speaker was Capt. May and the night before was Ralph Schoeman who discusssed the upcoming resistance movement developing in the States.
Vic

10 (edited by Atlantis 2004-09-26 04:06:52)

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Victoria wrote:

A very good website to follow up on conspiracy theories etc. is cloak and dagger (cloakanddagger.ca).  It is on most evenings and the guest speakers are worthwhile listening to.  Sherman Skolnick is the co-host.  Yesterday's speaker was Capt. May and the night before was Ralph Schoeman who discusssed the upcoming resistance movement developing in the States.
Vic

And that's exactly what THEY (Illuminati) want: RESISTANCE

Problem-Reaction-Solution.

instead of RELEASING VICTIM MENTALITY and REGAINING your MIND and set off your Television and mobile phones.

Trufax.org again is for me an Illuminati-backed broadcasting messenger.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

Re: Trufax

Atlantis wrote:

And that's exactly what THEY (Illuminati) want: RESISTANCE

Problem-Reaction-Solution.

I don't think so, Atlantis.  I think "they" would ideally like to implement a totalitarian world state and have all the people's of the Earth say "ok no problem, just tell us what to do so you don't have to kill us."  Since that's not going to happen, "they" have to use Problem-Reaction-Solution pump us full of fear, uncertainty and doubt --terrorist attacks, economic chaos, etc -- in order to get us to go along with their plans.  They want compliance, not resistance -- resistance is just one more variable they have to manage.

Re: Trufax

There are different kinds of resistance. Mindless resistance is what they look for.

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ermolai wrote:

There are different kinds of resistance. Mindless resistance is what they look for.

Yes, thanks ermolai for clearing. That's I was trying to say.

Mindless resistance gives a free play for the STS-entities.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

Re: Trufax

See also the thread at: http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=701

Has more info on Valerian and Matrix V.

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

Re: Trufax

montalk wrote:

Xenopope, I own both volumes of Matrix III and also Matrix IV ... if you have the patience, these will be downloadable eventually. Matrix IV was pretty good, but interestingly it's the only Matrix volume discontinued by Valerian. As for the article Atlantis referred to, here's the link to the un-reformatted version: http://montalk.net/wilde.html  ... it's my review of Stuart Wilde's "God's Gladiators" where I included a brief dig at Matrix V. Any information is worthwhile if read with discernment, of course. You gotta love Valerian for the in-depth material he once provided, but "The Author" of Matrix V is pretty twisted and annoying in my opinion...among other things, I caught him redhanded lying about what Robert Monroe said regarding loosh and discouraging others from looking it up themselves. Then last year Valerian emails me with sacharine ego hooks, asking me to remove all my links to Cassiopaea and link to the Matrix V page instead. I said no thank you and told him to not email me again smile  Not sure if Valerian's always been like this, or if he's been "reprocessed". Either way, he's always had some interesting connections with people high up in the technocratic/occult/hermetic elite. Trufax is an awesome site, but the increasing disinformation component of the site thanks mostly to 'The Author' has kept me from recommending it with thumbs up.

This is amazing to read, because I came across that site about a year ago or so, and something about the writings and the attitude or whatever it was, really turned me off, it felt so me, or I sensed between the lines, that this was not truths, nor from the heart, but something underhanded and not quite true..as if trying to mislead...som,etimes you just gotta go with your heart and soul, other than that at the time, I just couldnt put my finger on it. I didnt have any facts in which to compare, yet the readings in some parts, just didnt 'sense' right. And that happens a lot fo me, probably a lot of you too..so reading this....which I would have assumed that Val Valerians writings were embraced, and felt uncomfortable just thinkiing that, Im relieved to find that Montalk seems to have been able to find the crux of the matter..i just didnt buy that site and it felt, well ..negative..as if what was being said...was wrong, in an underhanded yet sugar coated way. Its amazing what a person can sense...or feel, or just...know when something isnt right..

"every good thought is adding to the rest of your life"