The galactic alignment of 2012 already happened......In 1998. (Page 3 of 5)

Sure Zagami has a disorderly mind... I have listened to his radio interviews with Greg Sczymanski and he's so talkative and disorderly that he can be very annoying.

You got it in the Bull's eye, Montalk!

Our choices and allegiances matter most in determining what will come next, in the future and also in our future incarnations. Two 'races' are being born: the beast race is dividing itself from the spiritual race. Thus we will have increasingly two types of people, and only a slight spiritual minority will be truly STO. Many people, even many who still can be 'saved', will incarnate in the materialistic-animalistic (STS) race.  The Michaelic-STO race will be persecuted and great suffering is awaiting them. How we live now, how we respond to life and others, determines which one of these two paths our soul-spirit will take in the future. This is a most crucial moral turning point for the soul-spirit of mankind: STS or STO? You cannot postpone the necessity of choosing between these two options right now. The number 666 indicates a time when it is too late to turn back and change sides. 6 (imperfection, incompleteness, division, 6=3+3, 33) is the last figure before 7 (completion of a cycle). We are living a 666 period now. There will be many other 666's in the spiritual realms in a distant future.

Promises of 'heaven on earth' and 'quantum transmutation of consciousness' in 2012 is a gigantic trap.

Like channeled entities saying that 'God is in you' and that you just have to 'loose the illusion of limitation' to become a god. It means actually: 'become an angel right now and forget all the improvement you can make on yourself, flee right now and leave away all the base things that keep you tied to the illusion of reality'. This way you will think you are already fit for becoming an angel and thus will become a premature and immature angel... Many spiritualities suggest that. This is luciferic trap, to use Steiner's concepts of luciferic and ahrimanic traps. This is a tempation fit for spiritually-minded people... mostly, it is lovers of ease who fall into this trap.

Hi Proto,

Why would it necessarily need to have the effect of

To me it its just another idea that is 'out there', with all those other ideas including the catholic church, mayans, aliens, left wings, right wings, and dietary advice.  I take what I like and I leave the rest.

I believe nothing now, I watch the moment.

I'm finding for myself that whatever is going on for me is down to where my awareness is at.  If it is here and now, then I can tell you that I'm living a big, beautiful adventure.  But, if it is 2012, or 1998, or 1966, or 1989, or 2008, or 1715, or if it is tomorrow or yesterday, then you can bet that I am probably living a nightmare to one degree or another.

Just Say No to Time.

I'm sorry, I should've made myself alot clearer. Yeah, I agree, the idea is out there like alot of other ideas/theories, however, I've noticed people outside NR who believe in this shift hardcore and I observe their behavior, speech, etc and they seriously think they're going to be saved by some date. These are the same people who look down on Christians and how they believe Jesus is actually going to come in physical form and save people. Not so much. Both groups are playing the same game, but in different guises and expect to have something or someone to do their "dirty work" like working on yourself/helping others in terms of mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, but that's doubtful. I actually overheard some guy in  Barnes and Noble who said "after 12/21/2012, life's going to be so different!!!"to his friend. I was about to say something, but I didn't. Why can't you change your life now and make it different? I know I go through major changes WEEKLY for the better by bettering myself in someway, shape or form, not that I'm special or expect an Olympic gold medal, but it can be done today if you choose.

That's what I meant when I said "slouching around", like the guy in Barnes and Noble and his weirdo voice all giddy, giving the impression that he's advanced and arrogant with his know it all demeanor. (Ok, I seriously did not like this dude, he rubbed me the wrong way haha, but great writing inspiration with this whole 2012 thing).

Oh jesus god.  For real??   I'm afraid to even click on the link and see. 

ugh.

Edit:   Okay, I clicked over to see.  Luckily he does identify himself as Leo Zygamy, or whatever his name is.  He just so happened to choose the same handle as me.  Hopefully people won't get confused, because there are people on the Icke forum who post here.  The only problem would be if they don't see his first post where he identifies himself as the Zygamy dude, and then think it's me, now posting over on David Icke.  I did register to the Icke forum a long time ago...but NOT as "lyra," and only made a few posts.  Namely, I questioned the people who were posting attacks towards Neomatrix's "Open Letter to David Icke," just being dumbasses, and I also set the record straight when former NR poster and short term resident nutter "Racsouran" started posting lies about what happened during his brief time spent here at NR.  I don't think he realized that anybody from NR was over there reading his stuff and would step up and go, Um, excuse me, Hello, that's not what happened, AT all.      So yeah, that was my brief foray into the Icke forum.  Found it to be too chaotic and noisy for my liking.

Not to mention that Lyra doesn't post entire BOOKS spanning multiple posts, and expect anyone in their right minds to read it all.

If she wants to write a book, she writes it herself and puts it up front!

Hey all, I just had a realization regarding what Blue mentioned on the previous page................I was just re-reading my piece about "Synchronicities" on my website about 10 minutes ago and realized for the first time, and I don't know why in the world I never noticed this before or why it didn't "click" but, time seems to be moving backwards. Just like Blue said.  All these synchs I mention in my write up seemed to be moving backwards.   The "future" event moved backwards to create the synch that happened just prior, in the "past."  It just clicked today, again, I don't know why I didn't see this.  Because when you read some of the synchs I write about, that really seems to be the only way or explanation for how they could have possibly occurred.   My thoughts and actions were influenced at that present moment to where I was "put into position" like a chess piece you could say in order to create a synch that lined up to something moments in the future.  The future is creating the now, and I think this explains EVERYTHING.   !!!!!  It even explains many of my number sightings, such as the ones that foretell a negative event coming up down the pike.  That negative event has already happened, so technically the numbers are coming after the event.  They are a residual after effect, but we're viewing it all backwards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  This is so exciting!  I love mind bending twistiness where the brain has to contort!    But think of the implications!!!   I figured out when I was 17 on my own for my own reasons and personal proof that the past, present and future are happening simultaneously, but it never occurred to me to view all of our present as a direct result of the future, that our very thoughts and actions are being created, influenced and manipulated by future events we have yet to experience!  And probable future timelines definitely do fit into this as well.   I get my negative number indicators that foretell trouble and fighting which has already occurred in the "future".....I find myself positioned like a chess piece to react badly when I get to that point in the future.......but because I now know, I then opt for a different response instead because I've seen the residual after effect numbers.  And my changed response creates a new future. 

It's so mind bending I'm so excited!!!  Weeeeee!!!!   So thanks Blue for sharing your experience with what your higher self told you!  Exciting stuff.....

You know, you may be right.  I've always been a skeptic of reverse speech and have voiced my skepticism about it on NR in several threads, only because some people really get a bit cuckoo with it, hearing what they want to hear it seems and interpreting what amounts to gibberish in a very liberal way.  BUT.....if we're going to say that time is moving backwards, then indeed, it would have to affect everything I'd think....including speech.

This is just so exciting though.  I've had all the pieces together, and even had them positioned in their proper places, but just never connected them all together.  It's going to give me tons to think about this weekend.  Makes me see everything differently.....