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Topic: Motivations of the Controllers

This is pretty long, so, if anyone wishes to discuss the material here, perhaps it would be best to start a new thread for that purpose, to save the trouble of scrolling scrolling scrolling.

Just discovered this channeled material, I'm excited about it and am learning a lot from it, though I think they need an editor--me perhaps??
smile
Jen

from http://www.greatdreams.com/dna_past_future.htm

Blue's response is below Taylor's question ..

-----Original Message-----
From: Taylor D
Sent: Friday, 19 April 2002
To: foreverblue@gmx.net
Subject: Hello from South America

Dear R, thank you so much for bringing us this Blue thing. I wait your posts like the school boy the weekend. I'm Bolivian, a country in South America. I'm therapist and a thinker and future agitator of social change. I have some very important questions to Blue.

I hope you can post them. There is some key idea that I feel missing in the whole conspiracy view point and maybe Blue can provide it:

OK there are these beings who want to CONTROL us TOTALLY, at ANY price and they use REAL SOPHISTICATED technology for it, and pretend to use even more. As if they weren't controlling us and the world and the markets ALMOST completely.

The question is: What could be the motivation? It would be so boring for them if we would become EVEN MORE ROBOTS! What could be the motivation for such BIG efforts and mobilization of expensive and impressive resources to get us to our knees, even more?. What for?? they already have the money, the women, the land. We are already slaves working 8 hours a day, 6 days a week with unpayable debts. What else for god's sake? I hope you see the point. It's important to know the prime drive of your "enemy" what do they really want? Our genes? they can take them whenever they want, they already do it. So, there must be something else. In your last post Blue mentions something, that gets near:

"the shadows do not need oil, nor money.... what they are after is the keys to the kingdom, the keys to the door of heaven's gate and for this they need a subdued humanity forever entrapped in limited physicality .... once they have obtained the keys, you will not be required."

WHAT ARE THOSE KEYS BLUE!!!!???? WHAT DO YOU MEAN WITH HEAVENS GATE???
We are as much subdued as for them to be able to do what they please, WHY MORE??

When you work with people and try to explain what is going on in between the lines of known history and you say they want total control of the earth, is something that sounds silly, like pinky and brain cartoon, childish. Please Blue, what do they want? Without this key resistance is not plausible. We NEED to know their motto.

Thanks R and hope you and blue give us a hand to this forgotten part of the world.
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[Blue] first we wish to say that you need to look at this wholly and not an US and Them scenario, the enemy and so forth, you have to move beyond this .... we understand of what you speak and ask ..... we ask that you start from the beginning of this epic as you may garner a better understanding ....

[R] Blue can u pls keep it simple, i mean simple so  can explain it to the five year old next door ...

[Blue] .... after the separation, the split, the fall into physical matter, those streams that separated and wanted to become creators likened unto the all-that-is, but not aligned with the all-that-is became raptured with the physical domains/frequencies ...

as we have explained, mmm .... we are re-scanning for better explanation .... ok .... they knew that the all-that-is could if it wanted pull it back ..... but also they knew that the all-that-is wanted to experience the physical, to behold it .... and so they thought they could withhold it ....

their problem was since cut of from the source in an entropic system, they required sustaining energy, just as do all physical beings and systems residing in the physical universes ...

now a way of obtaining this sustaining energy was to connect back with the source within the non-physical universes ....but in order to do this they would require obliques the grip on the physical .... which they did not wish to do!

further on/within, the all-that-is commissioned/desired a project to allow full interface with the physical universes, to be able to co-exist with in both domains ... and so began our work with the human 24 DNA physical body as explained in previous posts .... and our consciousness would embody this .... to allow a physical body and all-that-is and part there of to experience self-referential identity as well as all-that-is identity with in the one physical body ....

as we have explained, this was a two fold project

1. to allow the all-that-is to interface/experience
2. for the human stream to become a retro-repair for other physical embodiments that it may interbreed with allowing them to carry their own interface also back to the all-that-is should they choose it to be so...
to keep this short .... what occured was that the fallen for a better word, saw that this could be there way of obtaining a route back to the non-physical without needing to abide by the laws of the all-that-is ....

you see, as long as they remain in physical universes/frequencies they can do as they please with in certain limitations ..... but to put a foot so to speak in the non-physical domains, they would need to abide by laws that would render them ....

so they saw if somehow they could tap into the 24DNA coded matrix which was designed to interface with the physical as well as non-physical domains ... you get the drift ...

[R] but surely interbreeding with humans would have given them this, no ?

[Blue] yes, but as soon as they stepped into non-physical domains, they still would lose control ... what they wanted was to have both, control solely over the physical as well as co-exist in the non-physical domains and be universal law unto themselves regardless of the totality of all-that-is ....

[R] this is beginning to spin my head ...

[Blue] in order to co-exist in both domains, it is not just simple to obtain some DNA wiring codes and sequences, you must also on a soulular level resonate to those specially wired strings so to speak ....

[R] pls explain

[Blue] it is likened unto a musician ..... a skilled musician can play all types of music from all differing cultures, eg. rock n roll or classical ..... now a musician who hates classical may still be able to play it, but it does not mean he loves it or enjoys it, thus his soul does not resonate truely with the music ... apart from this, the audience can sense it and it does not feel that same as if one playing from within their heart/self ...

the musician may be able to keep up this charade for a while (physical) .... now tell this musician that he must play classical music for all eternity (non-physical) .... now if he had the correct instruments (DNA code) he could play it but not all eternity, eventually he would succumb to his true desire/heart to play rock n roll, as what would be the point of being in the non-physical if you could not play only rock n roll ...

[R] I would have thought all types of music co-existed within the all-that-is ?

[Blue] you misunderstand .... it does allow for all, but it must have to come from the heart so to speak, you must want and enjoy classical so to speak .... we are only giving examples, it is not literal, we are speaking metaphorically ...

.. do you see not that all this is about obtaining the genetics which will allow both physical and non-physical experience/creation through one unified embodiment ..... in order to fill this embodiment, it also requires a unified, mind and soul and spirit to be able to control it, otherwise it would be likened unto putting a 5 yr old in the driving seat of the space shuttle with no training or preparation ... do you see ...

so in short .... you have 5 yrs olds wishing to embody/control/take over the space shuttle .... and assuming they do, would wreak havoc unto themselves as they would not be able to control it and if they managed the launch sequence codes and managed a take off, the G-forces would crumbled their little bones .... and they may not survive .... again we are giving you a simplified metaphoric .....

so what is it that these shadows want if not for oil, wine, women and song, as you say ....

mmm. do you not recall the encrypted/compressed DNA known to you as junk DNA ... which makes up 90% of your genetic makeup ....

well there is a forgotten event which R allowing we will cover in your near future ..... a point came in your past, where domination and exploitation began over the Lilium (Human stream) .... cause the 5 yr olds figured if they could find the key that opens up the doorways to the non-physical, they could attempt to take control .... and so began the exploitation of the Lilium and much experimentation and so forth .... as although their soul/stream were not and still to a degree are not able to embody a fully switch 24 DNA embodiment as they did not resonate with it, they wished somehow to find the key to allow them to match resonance regardless of soulular frequencies ....

every time they attempted embodiment unto a 24 DNA wired body, they failed miserably as they needed to get the resonance correct and of course they could not do this for the 24 DNA wired body was only keyed for the Lilium (human) soul-matrix ....

so in order for them to be able to embody one method was to switch off certain DNA keys, basically have a crippled body that function 10% of its full capabilities which allowed them to embody .....

this is simply put .... but the idea was as they became accustomed, they would slowly switch on one key at a time, until they had full integration .....

this concerned many in the physical and non-physical as to re-start the whole creation would never be the same ..... so an event occurred where we had to commission an encryption/compression to the remaining 10-physical DNA strands today known to you as junk ...

ever since, they have been trying to break this encryption ....!!!

why is it you think that your Jehovan (Eli-Jovi) scientists of today are so driven for stem cell research and cloning and so forth ..... the research continues in hidden labs using technologies far in advance and yet to be able to break the encryption ... for they fail to see it is at the soulular level and not ONLY physical body ..

[R] hang on a tick .... do you mean that the " I " of me is a 5 yr old one of them ...

[Blue] no not necessarily ... you see we had to close of access to the remaining as they began to embody Lilium bodies .... so this was a set back for both .... meaning that Eli-Jovi and Lilium souls only had 2 physical strands (4 in total, 2 physical and 2 non physical)


why is it your main bible of today's earth begins with Genesis !!

is it not gene of Isis! and have we not told you the root-sonics of Ishael and Israel have all to do with this gene of Isis .... you have :
Isis-Hathor-EliJovi = Ishael
and Isis-Ra-EliJovi = Israel ....
Elohim/Jehovah is the offshoot in the physical universes for the Eli-Jovi as Humans are for the Lilium ...

and whom might you think are the authors of Genesis and most of your Judeo-Christian bibles ... is it not the one and only flesh and blood god-stream known as the war god Jehovah .... mmm ... this is the fabricated beginning of the Lilium demise due to the attempted misuse of trying to obtain the keys ...

and to continue with answering the questions ..... this is why they need you subdued and suppressed .... cause they need the keys, but they know only Lilium souls are able to de-crypt the remaining DNA ..... so they keep you in the dark and feed you shit, in the hope that you may be able to break the encryption for them .... once you begin unravelling, they will begin more and more gross experiments ..... we suggest you watch your genetic research and technologies development this will give you an indication ...

there is one thing you must understand ...... that the many beings on this planet are a hybrid physical makeup ..... where souls from the differing streams can embody ... but however there are some that can only be embodied by the Lilium and vice versa ...

this is why they keep you here and do not wish for you to wake up .... cause with a simple opening of your eye, you will see what is going on and once fully empowered you would do away with them .....

[R] but isn't this a catch 22 ... how can they have the keys, if we don't wake up and unravel it .... so in effect they are doing themselves a disservice ?

[Blue] you see they long ago gave up on for you to do it via waking up .... so now they do it via technology, food stuffs, genetic research both open and secret, vaccinations and a concoction of other methods .... to attempt to break the encryption .... also they do seek out those who are advanced and do much grotesque research/experimentation

we will tell you some that may shock you, but most of your new age streams are setup by these groups, to bring those out who may have this genetic soulular advancement, so they can be tagged, watched and some very high level technologies used beyond your awareness, to try and seek the keys ... sort of like a stealth key-logger .... something that is implanted mentally and cellularly that watches every key stroke, records it and and then retrieved so they can study and see how the soul/body interface is working ....

think on this ... why is it most of your new age streams are geared around Jehovan ideologies ... think on it ... your kabbala, off-shoots from your bibles using much of the same verbage as your bible does, mmm .... have you come across any alternatives that did not bear any close resemblance to your Judeo-Christian or other fabricated religions ... mmm ....

it is the same thing with another twist.

so they can take your genes but only the non-encrypted ones .... the rest they need the keys .... and so in simple ... waking up needs to be on the quiet/inner levels ..... to do it otherwise where you are polarized against another, makes it only obvious and actually will attract them to your diminishment ..... this is why you must walk the centare of the cross and not die on it metaphorically speaking, but arise unified from the cross ... but to do it openly and resistively against the establishment only will get you crucified ... are you listening R ?

do you see that this whole affair is beyond the physical, it is not about oil, or money or world government, not about globalisation and so forth, it is more than this, but these are only used as the cannon-fodder medium to keep you occupied and no time to wake up .... they play both sides of the game and see both hands of cards. ... whilst to you it looks like a conflict .... where you must side with one or the other .... "you are either with us or not" as one of your infamous leaders said to the rest of the world in order to polarize ..

we will tell you also that living underground the Jehovah/reptilian group appear as white skinned people ......

your aboriginals all over your worlds are the true colour skin representation of you as humans with 24 DNA .... which is black/brown .....

from this comes the different mixes which give different colours of your skin races except for the Asian races which were put in place as a means to rectify the imbalances created by the Jehovah stream ......

[R] so now these two groups are fighting for control ........ over earth humans

when you awaken and see your unified self for what it is, rather than your fragmented selves, you will begin to slowly, see with realeyes (realize) and have full perception and access to much knowledge that is carried from generation to generation within your junk-DNA ..... likened unto finding the encryption key to unlock this encrypted junk-DNA .....

many of you think that your junk-DNA is the portion that has been de-activated .... thus limiting your fields of perception and ability ..... to some degree this can be the case, but in fact, when you sold yourselves out due to deceit unknowingly, we had to encrypt much of your DNA and leave only that which was sufficient enough to allow your survival ......

... there are still many species who try in vain to decrypt your 24 DNA matrix soul/body in hope that they may attain the codes to heaven's gate so to speak ......

... but forcing one's way into a house, is not the same as earning the right of entry, and stealing one's possessions/knowledge is not the same as working and earning and learning the knowledge unto yourself ......... From: 4-30-2002
[Taylor] If we unlock this code you Blue talk about, does it mean we get connected with this endless energy?
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[Blue] if you unlock the code to your self, we shall say you have "access" to endless energy on a soulular/cellular level, be it in the physical universes or non-physical ....
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[Taylor] In terms of every day experience, what would it mean for us to unlock this code? How do a person who did it looks like? What is this person able to do? Is it the same as getting enlightened? was the Buddha a man who unlocked the code? When you unlock the code, you awake to what? what happens with consensual reality?
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[Blue] you questions are one-dimensional, but the answers are multi-dimensional .... it is more than just physical or 3rd Dimension in Universe-1 .... as you unlock the code here, you begin access to universe 2 and then universe 3 ... as a soulular being/entity/group/family ...

remember the "I" in You is only a fragment of a whole soul/gestalt ... which resides at the utmost levels of Universe6 in the non-physical ... below this are fragments which further fragment all the way down to Dimension-1 ...

currently the "I" of you which we are corresponding with resides in Dimension-4, your physical body being in Dimension-3 of universe-1 ... you have soulular family in D1-D2-D3-D4 which belong or work together and belong to other souls in upper dimensions/universes which are one family which ultimately belong to one of the 24 streams/frequencies emanating from the all-that-is .... we "Blue" are one of these frequencies ...

why is it you are attached, to an animal/pet, or even a sentimental object, plants etc ... because its energy makeup vibe belongs in the same family soul group as you are in ..

[Blue] .... once you have unlocked/braided all the way to universe-3 / dimension-4 ... you must await the cogs and wheels of universe, wheels within wheels to align .... this alignment occurs in cycles of your time ... remember the one-way valve .... where it is feeding lines into the physical universes, well at the right time it reverses allowing those who have unlocked the doors of they be ... to go back into the non-physical (non-time) universes ...

now again, a cycle is coming to pass, and thus why the big rush to gain access to the non-physical universes .... but understand, there are maligns who are residing in universe-3 who are attempting to force their way thru .... now since you are not in universe-3, but U-1, then what is the big deal for you .... for you it is not a matter of jumping from U-1 thru U-3 into U-4 (non-physical) .... but as these cycles come to pass, you have opportunities to go from U-1 to U-2 .... but there are those who are malign STS who feed off you and your knowledge and your access codes that are locked encrypted with in you, who require you in order for them to also make the jump to U-2 and beyond .... what is the term you call a hitch-hiker .... or more drastic a hijacker ...

there would not be an issue if they wished to go to U2, U3 and beyond for benign reasons, but for if the were in union with source they would not need to hitch-hike or hijack .... they would get thru on their own accord ... but since they have ulterior reasons/motives, they are taking the hitch-hike ride ....

what it means to be in a state of self-aware, fully potentialised ? we have already explained this previously, all these extra senses you pick up, you would determine every step of your past, present, future and sovereign unto your own creation and not limited choices given to you to decide ....

you would have access to knowledge beyond your current, you would not know of any diseasement or physical limitations... nor old age ... should a limb be chopped off, you would grow it again ... foods/sustenance would not be required ... as your intake would be from ionized air and unfiltered UV light ... death would be by choice or be decapitation only ... you would grow to be hairless, approx 8ft tall, and your skin would be likened unto a tumescent blue, sort of like a bruised light-blue-white .... your physical composition would be composed more of silica ...

[R] you mean you could live for ever ....

[Blue] time as you know it, it would appear as forever, but time in U3 flows differently to U1 and thus it is not forever, but from a U1 perspective it is a very long time ..

you would have telepathy and full communication with all animal kingdoms

pls understand what we are describe is a 12DNA, Univ-3 being .... making the jump to Univ2 gives you a subset of these attributes ... and lesser in U1 ..

much of your mythical gods thru your various histories are akin to attributes of above .... which questions as to whether they are myths or not ;o))

note you currently have 2DNA to 4DNA for Univ1 ... majority are sitting on 2-3 .... with some at DNA4 ... to get to Univ2 when the valve reverses you need to be at DNA4 and jump across to DNA5 .... you don't have much longer to before valve reverse ...

to re-iterate

Physical Universes

Univ1 = DNA1 - 4
Univ2 = DNA5 - 8
Univ3 = DNA9 - 12

Non-Physical Universes

Univ4 = DNA12 - 15
Univ5 = DNA16 - 20
Univ6 = DNA21 - 24

*** what is important this cycle around is that all the valves between U1 thru to U6 all reverse in alignment, allowing light from the all-that-is core to filter all the way thru!!!

normally it is only a subset cycle meaning, that the valve between U1-U2 or U2-U3 and so on ... this time is all valves thru from core to U1 are reverses ....

pls understand .... many a new age fad sell you on this ascension business .... it is not really ascension, as in U2 and U3 you still have polarity and malignancy existing ... pls note: that many of those who pull the strings, control and set the stage in Univ1, operate from U2 and U3 ... this is why it appears the odds are stacked against you ...

[Taylor] And also, the entities that want us to do the homework of unlocking the code, what do they want it for? reconnection with the all-that-is? free energy only?

[Blue] we have explained above, it is transportation into the all-that-is domains to take control, supply more energy to feed their entropic universes/domains ...

Definition of entropy: the degradation of the matter and energy in the universe to an ultimate state of inert uniformity b : a process of degradation or running down or a trend to disorder

[Taylor] Can one have access to this free energy while keeping a separated/paranoid consciousness? If not, do these entities suspect that this "unlocking" would be dangerous to their "separated" way of living?

[Blue] there is no such thing as free energy in your physical universes, the energy system that claim free energy have to vampirize this energy from elsewhere, so something gives in order for something else to take ... this is the physical law !!!

many who do not understand this nature, can cause more problems than they are innocently aware of, by developing such free energy machines ..... how ever there are systems which can be built which may use of energy that is already given, such as your suns' rays, wind, waves and so on .... we do not mean to pooh pooh your free energy inventors, but as many of you deem it sometimes a conspiracy by those not wanting you to have free energy, this is not so .... as their are beings in place who are benign and aware of problems/havoc that can be cause by these devices, that they will give these inventors choices such as $$$$ etc and buy their inventions of them, agreeing never to be used ....

in truth it is your maligners who use these devices for their own greed, and much, not all of your weather patterns and storms out of the blue un-notices as well as earthquakes are due to uses of these free energy systems which rob other areas of your nature for energy!!!

you can only take from that which has already given or chosen to give .... you can not forcefully take from something that has not given or chosen to give against it's will ... it is known as the law of compensation! we often muse upon this term and have given it a name known as the law of complexation, as many get complex in issue in trying to understand this law ... but it is quite simple, do not take from that which does not give to you, ask first ;o))

know you your nuclear plants and atomic weapons are of such nature, taking forcefully ...

as for Buddha, whose mother was known as Maya, is not a person and not to be personified ... it is an epoch, a state of mind, consciousness, just as the Maya were ;o) clues therein, where did they vanish or go ?

Re: Motivations of the Controllers

Wow, great stuff. A lot to take in and am still processing. The genetic aspect is interesting and seems to provide some puzzle pieces. Will check out further.

Thanks, Stephen

Re: Motivations of the Controllers

Thanks, Jen. That was really, really good!

this is why they need you subdued and suppressed .... cause they need the keys, but they know only Lilium souls are able to de-crypt the remaining DNA ..... so they keep you in the dark and feed you shit, in the hope that you may be able to break the encryption for them

Not to diminish the importance of this information, but it would have been so cool if the Matrix movie sequels had gone in this direction.

--Justin

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Re: Motivations of the Controllers

Glad you guys liked it.  I'm perusing the archives (there haven't been any new messages this year) at http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/foreverblue
and getting a lot out of them.  Blue is just so tuned in.

Apparently, he's the "god" of "universe 1" (that's us), but as he says,
"god" is a title, like "captain."  Blue is his/their name.  When someone asked him what the title of "god" stood for, he said

blue wrote:

god - stands for G.O.D. .... "Generator of Dreams" .... that's my job ;o))

I think this excerpt from the above post is particularly important to remember:

blue wrote:

so they can take your genes but only the non-encrypted ones .... the rest they need the keys .... and so in simple ... waking up needs to be on the quiet/inner levels ..... to do it otherwise where you are polarized against another, makes it only obvious and actually will attract them to your diminishment ..... this is why you must walk the centare of the cross and not die on it metaphorically speaking, but arise unified from the cross ... but to do it openly and resistively against the establishment only will get you crucified ... are you listening R ?

do you see that this whole affair is beyond the physical, it is not about oil, or money or world government, not about globalisation and so forth, it is more than this, but these are only used as the cannon-fodder medium to keep you occupied and no time to wake up .... they play both sides of the game and see both hands of cards. ... whilst to you it looks like a conflict .... where you must side with one or the other .... "you are either with us or not" as one of your infamous leaders said to the rest of the world in order to polarize ..

Or IOW, you can't fight polarity with polarity smile

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Re: Motivations of the Controllers

Wow, I can't believe it - I just posted this today.
http://noblerealms.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1786

Blue says:

and to continue with answering the questions ..... this is why they need you subdued and suppressed .... cause they need the keys, but they know only Lilium souls are able to de-crypt the remaining DNA ..... so they keep you in the dark and feed you shit, in the hope that you may be able to break the encryption for them .... once you begin unravelling, they will begin more and more gross experiments ..... we suggest you watch your genetic research and technologies development this will give you an indication ...

If you read the above thread, you'll see they have begun to unravel the puzzle.

Enlightenment happens!  Attachment to the ego-self leads one into delusion; but faith in one's Buddha nature leads one to enlightenment.

Re: Motivations of the Controllers

interesting read Jen.

it really seemed to ring like an honest dialogue, even if some of the grammar was wacked out, which can happen with this kind of material.

and it fits well with the thoughts ive been forming over the past few years regarding all of this metaphysical / paranormal tidbits:

INTEGRATION.

i knew it all along that this was the purpose. purpose of what? i dont know... of everything it seems.


czyx wrote:

this is why they need you subdued and suppressed .... cause they need the keys, but they know only Lilium souls are able to de-crypt the remaining DNA ..... so they keep you in the dark and feed you shit, in the hope that you may be able to break the encryption for them

Not to diminish the importance of this information, but it would have been so cool if the Matrix movie sequels had gone in this direction.

well, remember the 'keymaker' ?

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

Re: Motivations of the Controllers

Before I read this article I had some loose ends of thought about DNA, but this has gone a fer piece to drawing some of those loose ends together.

Thanks Jen!

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

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