Hollywood (Hellewood) gliterati/illuminati (Eternal Sunshine/Montauk)

I am acquainted with an individual who has had many paranormal experiences which are apparently ET-related,  and this person also fits the description.  I recall a recent conversation we had where they spoke of having had suicidal urges for a long period of time, but for some reason "wondered" if they actually would be able to go through with it if they chose to ... the essence of the question being whether an outside force would prevent that from happening.  This was a specific question of interest in their minds in light of their own intuitive sense of "mission" (which we now know is itself indicative of contact).

a further note:

the forementioned movies Planet Earth and Genesis II were both failed t.v. pilots by Gene Roddenberry in the early 70's (both featuring the underground 'Atlantean' type magnetic-leviton or mag-lev tech rapid transit tube shuttle craft which is said to exist as a worldwide transport system utilized by the Ultra-Elite, Ultra-Military, Aliens, Overlords for their private mach-speed transit, for example, the L.A. to N.Y. route takes only approx. 2hrs (the fastest non-stop, airplane now takes at least 5hrs in comparison) and there was a song called I.G.Y. by Donald Fagen of Steely Dan from the late 70's or early 80's which had the lyric 'N.Y. to Paris undersea by rail in 90min' or similar- an airplane takes around 7hrs the last time I checked, non-stop)

the upcoming 'Constantine' looks interesting (the veiled angels and daemons among us).

Independence Day
Day After Tomorrow

I, Robot (note: I remember recently seeing an old sixties Outer Limits episode entitled I, Robot too perhaps based on the Asimov short story/book?)

Bubba Ho Tep (as mentioned in the general discussion thread 'movies' by Lyra seems interesting too, and I plan to eventually see it too)

the weird David Bowie movie mentioned there in that thread seems interesting too (considering he was the star of Australian director Nic Roeg's cult film 'The Man Who Fell to Earth' and also star of 'Labyrinth' and other unusual films like 'Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence')

One more note:  I am currently in a search (with notable video outlets/sources) trying to find out the title of a sci-fi film I first remember seeing (only once) on t.v. in the 1970's where silver discoid ufo's are depicted entering the ocean and submerging down into a cave opening utilizing a force-field over the cave entrance and then flying (anti-gravity tech) into the large hanger bay parking near other ufo's, and the only other thing about this film I remember is two-to-three secret agent types arguing with the background of the ocean in the scene.... I can't remember any big-name stars in this film which makes it that much harder to find.... maybe, in rare cases, certain low-budget sci-fi films which hit too close to home in accuracy at portraying the real-life silver discoid transdimensional anti-gravitic tech ships which are often reported to be entering our oceans, desert-sub-level, mountain-concealed via fake tree terrain hanger openings, and deep water lakes... and are thus retracted or never released in the video format (they might occasionally show up on late nite t.v. though even nowadays there would be less 70's type movies on t.v. or written about in video guidebook formats...)

I know I saw that movie!

I also remember that really bad sci-fi flick called 'Laser Blast' airing on t.v. around the same time... where a young man discovers an alien laser gun and starts to wreck havoc (and that one is written about in say the VideoHound Guide) and I remember another low-budget sci-fi 70's flick where a floating orb is seen in the desert regions, can't remember much else though

Last (for now):

A very strange occurance (among many of mine so far) was when I bought the dvd of the movie Deep Impact (about the comet that might hit in 2012, and which never hit in Nostradamus' widely mis-interpreted prophecy of 1999...), when I got home with the dvd that nite, they were showing  Deep Impact (a better more realistic-like film as opposed to the Bruce Willis asteroid film Armageddon) on cable-t.v coincidentally...

Weird,
kinda makes me more paranoid than I already am!

Does that bode bad for the possible 'Project Awareness' advance warning prep for an inevitable impending asteroid impact (and the mock? BBC 70's documentary 'Alternative 3' based on the book of the same title depicting the Ultra-Elite's survivability plans, underground bunker/shelters stocked for the few lucky in-the-knows, key scientists, leaders, ultra-rich, aliens, human-collaborators, artists (gotta keep em entertained!) and off-planetary moon/mars bases?) and predicted via Bible Code I, II, and now upcoming III books by Michael Drosnin which mentions the asteroid potential in 2012...?  the so-called phase-shift and shift of many 3D bodies into the astral or next life....?

-Indigo

Interesting!    Yeah, I know one too.................my dad.   

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I just know that during the portion of "Taken" that involves the abductee kid now as an adult, going over to Vietnam, then his life afterwards, that's when I was leaning forward, very intense.   To me if was the best part of the entire series, hands down, the most realistic part of the series compared to everything else which was more cartoonish.   And again, I've just never seen something like that covered in any movie.   I think my eyes were bugged out when I was watching it.   

Indigo -  Yes, the David Bowie movie "Labyrinth".......VERY symbolic meaningful movie.   It oozes Illuminati mind control symbolism.   The white owl, the costume masquerade ball in the mirror world, altering / messing with personal time, the MC Escher stairs at the end, the labyrinth itself with its bezillions of features, all of which correspond to something which has to do with the inner workings of a compartmentalized split mind control puppet.    I own this one, and I've seen it dozens of times, I can't help it, I'm just so incredibly drawn to it.      I know it's used as a programming tool, but it's just so enjoyable to watch.    oh well.   !

Well, can't speak for others, but I'm not equating the Illuminati to anything.   I was just agreeing that there are messages and insights being featured in many mainstream movies / shows / miniseries which often times goes over the average person's head when they watch.   All they see is an entertaining fictional movie, when in fact, there's an actual message being conveyed there.  Layers upon layers, you could say.   

But you did admit, you haven't read the thread before you wrote that, so................   

For the sake of conversation, I'll take on the role of Devil's Advocate and ask......where's your proof that your version of historical events pertaining to the Illuminati is correct?   What makes your version any more legitimate / true versus somebody else's?   Just wondering, and again, playing Devil's Advocate.   Just wondering what your basis in proof is for your more correct "bit of background information."     I have no vested interest in the Illuminati, so you know.   In fact, I've gone on record in other threads proclaiming that I'm kinda tired of always hearing them blamed for everything that goes wrong in this world.   Illuminati this, Illuminati that.   Those who study alterative history / conspiracies overuse and abuse the word "Illuminati" far too often, imo....

The debate was only regarding the actual meaning of the word "Illuminati" (="Enlightnened ones" in Italian) and how it is used nowadays. That's what's p&@;ing me off a little, whether Hollywood is a valid source of secret knowledge is not part of my concerns but I respect those who are looking for clues regardless of the particular crystal ball they are using.

The Illuminati is widely being equated with the bad people. According to the only source I have at hand ("Cosmic Trigger" by R. A. Wilson, yet again) the term started to be used in 1776 in Bavaria. The Illuminati was an inner circle within the local Free Masons. [Did I hear somebody reach out for a crucifix and a clove of garlic?]. According to Mr. Wilson the origins of that  secret society within a secret society can be traced back to Knights Templars, Greek gnostic cults and Egyptian Schools of Mysteries (hence Atlantis, etc.) The problem with this debate is what we (you, they?) associate with the term Free Masonry. Free Masons are anti-Vatican and anti-pope for the reasons I have briefly highlighted further up. The problem is that this is often associated with Anti-Christianism, Devil worshipping, "Elders of Sion", NWO etc. This is what I call an amalgamation, and a pretty bad one too! I have neither the time or the need to prove my views by doing research and ending the posting with "You see, I told you so!". In fact I value free thinking and relying on one's OWN intelligence to decide what's what. [No, I didn't mean the NWO's intelligence, Funny!]. Whether Jesus existed or not, whether the Illuminati and Masons are in fact "The Dark Ones" I have my own beliefs, experiences and sources but not having anything published under any major publisher make any further arguments from me inconsequent. Right? So, if you want the Answers to come out of Icke's books, anti-occult propaganda or the Church of Satan I am sure you will find them right there as usual.

[Sorry, am I raising my voice? At least I managed to avoid the urge to write in frigging CAPITALS!]

By the way I am not a Mason and never will be. I am a free atom and I do not belong to any organization, church or movement...at least none that has a postal code!

In Light.

Back again,

I read over the replies here.

I want to state (while I am at it) that I too, am not affiliated with any particular group (whether of the so-called "Light-Workers" who always claim to be benevolent and on 'humanity's-side' and all their various groups, Ashtar, Pleiadians, Andromedans, Nordics, etc..., or on the negative malevolent side or so-called "Dark-Powers" and their various groups, Orion, Sirius, Draco, Reptilians, etc...).  I try to remain somewhat 'nuetral' and merely 'observational' and detached, pointing out my findings/views and not taking up any particular 'side' or 'alignment' (as of yet, though I do tend to lean toward benevolence).

The only nearly related type of group I might consider myself to have similar ideas with is that of the Gnostics (and I still do not totally agree with all they teach/advocate), I say Gnosis is Empowerment because I resonate with how the Gnostics say that (in the American Heritage dictionary-2nd College Edition, an older dictionary I still use) defines gnosis as 'Intuitive apprehension of spiritual truths, an esoteric form of knowledge sought by the Gnostics. gnosis=knowledge<gignoskein, to know'.

Also the term 'illuminati' can be defined as follows: 1. Persons claiming to be unusually enlightened with regard to some subject. 2. illuminati- any of various groups that claimed special religious enlightenment. [Lat. pl. of illuminatus, p.part of illuminare, to illuminate] --same dictionary source

So, really, I suppose that various people (to even include myself and possibly the Gnostics themselves) could be termed 'illuminati', or possibly 'enlightened' to some extents (at least in comparison to the average masses of humanity who are largely mostly ignorant in certain areas such as spiritual, religious, and paranormal/conspiracy/supernatural/ufo/et etc phenomena).

Like I said, I do not really consider myself all that 'special' or 'enlightened' or affiliated with any specific groups (save possibly a loose connection to the Gnostics).

I_like_Athm_too!:

Don't worry, I don't mind wandering into tangents such as how illuminati is defined or perceived or misperceived...

I can understand how the term does get misused and overused at times (especially in certain circles like conspiracy/ufo/et/paranormal etc) and how it can hit a nerve...

I do think that yes, there are benevolent and malevolent (and those in-between, or nuetral) forces at work in the world that could call themselves 'illuminati'.

Meaning, there are different types of 'illuminati'.

Zonabi:

Thanks for the compliment, I agree with you about your observation of the wordplay NWO, and Now, and Won... I remember noticing that you pointed this out in one of your other posts at Noble Realms.... I never thought of that particular wordplay until I saw you mention it... (good work too!)

More movies (and t.v.) I forgot to mention:

Stargate (the original movie with Kurt Russell and James Spader)
Stargate Atlantis (the new sci-fi channel spin-off t.v. series)
Stargate SG-1 (the eight plus seasons t.v. series)

Battlestar Galactica (the 1970's original t.v. series) --btw in their pilot, Apollo makes note/mention that the Cylons (a robot species) was originally created by a race of 'reptiles'...

Battlestar Galactica (the 2003-05 new sci-fi channel t.v. series) --btw the Cylons (a robot species, who in this updated version can also appear fully outwardly human like the 'replicants' of Blade Runner film/novel fame) can be a possible allusion to David Icke's and other researchers' conception of an alien species (Cylons) who look 'human' but who are really non-human underneath and malevolent toward most humans, also one of the creators/writers of this series has the similar full name of 'David Eick' --an anagram of the controversial author/lecturer/researcher British-born David Icke?  really odd-huh? I wonder at times if the Hollywood elite/certain-writers change their names for publicity/hidden/occult purposes?  lastly, this series depicts the human-Caprica peoples being wiped out by nuclear weapons... some kinda subtle message to Earth? their related project/show was called Battlestar Galactica- 'Propaganda and War' -I found it interesting with its WWII symbolism etc.

the many other t.v. sci-fi channel shows
Farscape
Andromeda
Sliders
etc...

Lyra:

Yeah, I will probably eventually purchase that Labyrinth dvd... (I think David Bowie is very interesting, weird and controversial, his many sci-fi/occult-type songs and movie-projects are fascinating, I remember seeing his picture and the mention of his 'looks'/facial features as being 'cruel-like'- a common 'look' of many 'suspicious' or 'strange' celebrities)

Soylent Green
Omega Man
Demolition Man (where Swarzenegger is mentioned as the 'president')
The Lone Gunmen (where there is an episode depicting a plane crash into the WTC towers eerily similar to the actual tragedy, shown/aired pre-9/11)

The X-Files (of course, -a huge effort in regards to the whole ufo/et phenomena)

Millenium (the Chris Carter X-Files related spin-off)

The Peacemaker (a nuclear terrorist scenario)
The Sum of All Fears (another nuclear terrorist/nazi scenario by Tom Clancy)

I am sure I will think of others as time progresses...

-Indigo (still observing)