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Topic: Atlantean Genetic Creations-Cats are part "Gray", Pigs are part human

Well, that probably got your attention, no?

big_smile

Over in the Karla Turner "Taken" thread in the Links section, Montalk posted this link to channeling source from 1990.   http://www.beyondweird.com/ufos/Revelat … _1990.html    It was pretty good stuff, and talks about many things, including the Dulce, NM underground base, reanimation of people, aliens, their genetic mutation creations, and most interesting to me........the Atlantean genetic creations.   The source of this channeling talks about how we have left over examples of these genetic "creatures" the Atlanteans spawned still with us in our world today.

Two offhand examples mentioned:   Cats.  Cats were a creation taking the stock genes of the big wild cats and mixing them with the genes of Grays.   Sounds far fetched?    Well, I totally see evidence for this.  In fact, I subconsciously saw it all along, but didn't consciously "connect" it.    On my rear window of my car I have two stickers side by side -  one is of a metallic sparkly "Gray" face with its big almond black eyes, the other....a female purple cat face, winking, with it's almond up-turned slanty alienesque eyes and Gray shaped face, and abormally large head on a skinny little neck.   Both stickers were side by side....go figure.

The Grays that cats were spawned from were in themselves a genetic creation using the Reptilian genetics.   They would have had their reptilian eyes with the vertical slits.   VERY strong psychic / 3rd eye / telepathy abilities.  Gray personality traits such as hive mind, being robotic, programmed creatures of habit, etc.   Sound familiar?   All are cat traits when you think about it.   Cats have vertical slit eyes..........unlike their big cat counterparts in the wild.     Ever wonder where that comes from??    Cats "hiss".......big cats don't.   They roar.    But snakes hiss.  It's also known that cats are HIGHLY psychic and their 3rd eye chakras are very strongly developed, more so than other animals.   And not to sound like a loon, but yes, I've "communicated telepathically" with my cat.  wink   I have, so there.   !  Never had that with a dog.   Plus, look at their faces.   My cat's is triangular wedge shaped, like a Gray's, with the big eyes.    Back in Florida there was a stray male cat that I used to help take care of whom I nicknamed the "Illuminati Kitty".    Because he had these huge upturned TOTALLY alien eyes, rimmed in black, and an upside down triangle / pyramid shape on his head / face.   He was a sweetie, but I couldn't come up with another name for him other than the Illuminati Kitty.    big_smile  He was FREAKY looking.    VERY alien eyes.   

The other big one that was mentioned was Pigs.    Now, the C's confirmed this too, but, pigs were supposed to be a genetic creation involving the mixing of human genes into the wild boar.    Ever wonder why pigs have such soft, smooth pink skin??     Doesn't really resemble a wild boar, does it?  Kinda looks a little more like us, huh?    hmm.    Yeah.   Pigs are also highly intelligent.   Very sociable.  Very affectionate.   They make great pets.  Doesn't sound much like a wild boar, does it?    And why is that?  Because they are like us.   They are comfortable around us and resonate with us.  Probably because they are PART us. 

Ever wonder why the Jews are absolutely adament that you DON'T EAT PIGS?

hmmm.  Seems their ancestors knew something.    For Jews, they have been instructed to stay away from animals with cloven feet, and as pointed out in the above channeling, Grays with their 2 toes are certainly cloven footed in that regard.   

So, those are two remants that have somehow surived all the eons since Atlantis.   I bet if you told an Atlantean scientist that some of their genetic mutation creations would survive thousands of years and became part of every day life for future humans......yet their origins would be completely unknown to those future humans.......they would have been shocked and amused.   

Another one worth mentioning offhand which wasn't in that channeling source but which Lloyd Pye talks about is the Cheetah.   The cheetah, native to Africa (= Egypt....)  is like no other big cat.    For starters.....it has the body of a Greyhound dog, runs like a Greyhound dog getting up to speeds of 70 mph, which no other big cat can even come close to doing -- nor would they have any reason to do that -- it has part "dog fur" and, the clincher.......it's the only big cat who is lacking in retractable cat claws.   Instead, it has non-retractable dog claws.    That's unheard of in cats....even in the mutated Gray-big cat.  wink   The other clincher is that all cheetahs are genetically identical.    They are all, literally, clones of each other.   The "experts" try to explain this as being a result of "genetic bottle necking", but XX!  try again.    So, looks like the Cheetah was yet another genetically engineered creation that survived into modern times.   It's a dog-cat.    And a very cute one at that, but still, a little odd I guess.   www.lloydpye.com

Anyway, hope this doesn't illicit anti-cat predjudice.   Try not to change how you view your little mates.    They're still the same loving little critters that warm your lap as always...but it's cool and interesting to know who they really are, and why they are the way they are.    It gives some answers for why they are different from the big cats they supposedly "evolved" from.    Fills in the missing pieces. 

And as for eating pork chops, honey glazed ham, pork fried rice, bacon.............I'll leave that one up to you to decide.     !

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: Atlantean Genetic Creations-Cats are part "Gray", Pigs are part human

Wumpedy dumpedy dee!
If this doesn't beat all. Lordy lord. Can't say I ever liked to think about the pork I've eaten anyway, but man. Oooh eeeh. Yech. Yechity double yeck, ya know?!
And a little cat's part sabertooth, part "Communion" clan? Figures! But whatever you do, don't feed em pork. Don't want em getting any ideas.Phewiewiewu. Wooo. This one's got my head spinning and my belly a gigglin, that's FO SHO.

I'm crying wee wee wee all the way home.

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Re: Atlantean Genetic Creations-Cats are part "Gray", Pigs are part human

Would that also explain why Egyptians revered cats as gods?

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Alushe wrote:

Would that also explain why Egyptians revered cats as gods?

bingo!

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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Re: Atlantean Genetic Creations-Cats are part "Gray", Pigs are part human

Sedna,

Yeah, it's an interesting idea alright.   But you have to wonder why Jews are just SO adament against pork.  It's the ultimate No-No for them.  Modern Jews don't know why they're not allowed to eat it other than that it's "unclean" and cloven footed....but think about it, all modern slaughter house meat nowadays is "unclean" in some regard.   Meathouses regularly use "downer" animals, animals that were already dead and lying in their own vomit and feces....it's all dirty, unclean and diseased and the reason many people are going vegetarian.    So what's the deal with "pigs" specifically?  Personally, I think the real reason has been lost over the millenia.   All that's left is the warning to just not eat it, period, with the real reason long since forgotten.............or supressed.


This Atlantean stuff opens up a huge Pandora's box when you think about it.    Supressed history, for starters.   The fact that modern man is certainly NOT at the top of the heap, and that there were past civilizations that could totally blow us out of the water in terms of technology and knowledge and science.  The fact that we have REMANTS of this past civilization and all it's moral implications existing RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES....as our pets, as our FOOD......etc.    We eat bacon or ham, (half human, half wild boar) then go cuddle with our pet cat (half Gray, half panther)  etc. etc.   and all the while, we're totally oblivious to this.   Hell, half the population is still quoting the Bible as literal fact.    They couldn't even handle it to find out what their bacon and pet cat is really and truly all about.  Their minds would go into overload.   There's nothing in their precious mistranslated bible that could prepare them for that.


The big issue here isn't so much about Cheetahs, pigs, or pet cats, but rather, Atlantis, and supressed history, and the fact we have remants of Atlantis all around us apparantly.........but TPTB are so desparetely afraid of us knowing this.    They will do ANYTHING to keep us from knowing "true history."   Why?   Because of that Pandora's Box.   It's all about "Control", and it's very sick.   Why???  Why can't we know about what really happened?   Okay, so there was a flood catastrophe 10,000 + years ago, and the Great Civilization broke apart and scattered to the 4 corners of the world, settling in new areas, starting anew.......why is that so bad to know??    Why shouldn't we know that many of the animals.......many of the RACES OF PEOPLE......are remnants of this past civilization that broke apart and scattered??

sigh.   Just some thoughts.......

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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6 (edited by lyra 2005-01-30 17:46:02)

Re: Atlantean Genetic Creations-Cats are part "Gray", Pigs are part human

Alushe wrote:

Would that also explain why Egyptians revered cats as gods?

Like Zonabi said......Bingo!   smile    That's mentioned in the channeling excerpt I linked to...the fact that the Egyptians worshipped cats because they were half "Grays", and therefore, half genetically of their "Gods."   It could all be bunk, but, it does possible explain some things.   And there's NO denying that domesticated cats are 1)  Very psychically adept, with very strong 3rd eye chakras;  and  2) Look VERY much like Grays -- at least, the breeds that haven't been too much tampered with by people;   The true "cat" looking breeds should look more Gray-like versus the inbred tampered with breeds with pug faces and close set, rounded eyes.   

I just know that the little "illuminati kitty" that I used to take care of struck me as being a cat that I "should" mate with my little female kitty.   Why?   Because he looked so "gray" like.   He just looked so alien-esque that I had this strong urge to mate him with my cat, meaning, his alien features were something that should be passed along and taken advantage of.   Versus all those messed up inbred breeds with their pug faces who have lost all traces of being a Gray.      I didn't end up doing it in the end, because I didn't want to risk putting my cat through pregnancy and birth, but, it's still all very interesting.......!

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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I don't eat ham.  Don't like it.  For some reason I always thought ham tastes how a human would taste.  I wonder if somehow I picked this up subconsciously.

Interesting stuff.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

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lyra,

STS always has to be reset-- because  they cannot contain their thirst for dominion. thus, they are allowed to play this game-- but with setback (resets) in the system to keep some kind of balance.

STO can go on forever !!

(this is a realization i had a few days ago)

((also a realization that STO societies tend to be in the higher, non-physical realms))

i cant help but to wonder (and hope) that some how, some way, we can bring STO to the physical world... bring down the love from higher up...

..........dreaming................

theres genetic leftovers all over the place... i even think we ourselves may be. just look at how controlled everything is, the manipulation everywhere means its been like that for eons...

interesting you bring the point of Atlantis being STS. never really heard anyone put it blunt like that, but it is true. they did have a spiritual side tho, as ive read they had monk like figures and whatnot... they seemed to be (or try to be) balanced. but alas, they had to be reset which means STS...

how can we bring STO to the physical world ? (this is why i asked questions about Alien cultures elsewhere here)

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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zonabi wrote:

theres genetic leftovers all over the place... i even think we ourselves may be.

Seriously.  It's so obvious, to myself, that we're half primate.  We're so animal in our natures.  I'm surprised that so many don't see it as clearly.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

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Re: Atlantean Genetic Creations-Cats are part "Gray", Pigs are part human

I wouldn't be surprised about cats. I have a little story I wrote back in college (in 85-86) about cats. I always loved cats, had telephatic communication with my cat as lyra said. Then wrote a short sci-fi story about cats. In the story they were the watchers of a very advanced galactic race. The advanced race were always watching & observing us through cats and try to decide if we're ready to join a galactic organisation. I found myself really believing in this short story of mine for a looong time. Haha, as I see it, we NR's were always strange people beginning from childhood smile

After many years now I read this thread. Thanks lyra, I'll check the link that you gave too.

Change we must, to live again
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Haven wrote:

Seriously.  It's so obvious, to myself, that we're half primate.  We're so animal in our natures.  I'm surprised that so many don't see it as clearly.

Haven........I'm not quite following you here.  Are you saying that humans are not taught / not aware that we're suppoesd to be primates?.........???!


As far as I know.......and maybe things are different where I grew up.........!...........but, everybody is taught in school that humans are primates, and that chimps are our closest relative.  I've never EVER heard anything different.

Out of curiosity..what did they teach you in school?!   Yikes!   big_smile



zonabi wrote:

interesting you bring the point of Atlantis being STS. never really heard anyone put it blunt like that, but it is true. they did have a spiritual side tho, as ive read they had monk like figures and whatnot... they seemed to be (or try to be) balanced. but alas, they had to be reset which means STS...

Yeah, I should have clarified.....from what I heard, Atlantis did have its good points, and its good people (guess we'll never know for sure though...!)   just like in this world we have our positive good people striving for an STO spiritual existance.   But it seems from what I gather (via channelling, etc.) that there was a predominance of STS running rampant in Atlantis, like in our world today.  So like you said......time to re-set.


feritciva wrote:

Haha, as I see it, we NR's were always strange people beginning from childhood

big_smile    Same here!

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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lyra wrote:
Haven wrote:

Seriously.  It's so obvious, to myself, that we're half primate.  We're so animal in our natures.  I'm surprised that so many don't see it as clearly.

Haven........I'm not quite following you here.  Are you saying that humans are not taught / not aware that we're suppoesd to be primates?.........???!


As far as I know.......and maybe things are different where I grew up.........!...........but, everybody is taught in school that humans are primates, and that chimps are our closest relative.  I've never EVER heard anything different.

Out of curiosity..what did they teach you in school?!   Yikes!   big_smile

But how many people fully realize this fact?

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

Re: Atlantean Genetic Creations-Cats are part "Gray", Pigs are part human

lyra, interesting topic. I just read that Cosmic Awareness channeling last night. Yes, the presence of gray/human genes in those animals is quite evident. Pigs especially, but cats more subtly so. I've always felt an affinity for house cats. They seem to be reading your mind when you make eye contact with them. I swear I've had entire conversations with cats before just by locking eyes with them.

One thing that really struck me though, besides the talk about cats and pigs, was the description of "nightmare hall" in the Dulce base. Supposedly there are all sorts of genetic experiments going on there hybridizing animals with humans in all sorts of ways. Half human, half octopus; half human, half bird; etc. WTF!? Wow! I almost started crying when I realized that these are real creatures being experimented on, against their will. This is not the way to create new species. IMO, genetic engeering requires knowledge and care, not reckless experiments to see what works and what doesn't! I think the whole "nightmare hall" account puts the recent ruckus in the news about human-animal hybrids in perspective.

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Haven wrote:

But how many people fully realize this fact?

That's true, many don't.   Many people know this intellectually, yet fail to connect things together.  They don't look in the mirror and see a "primate".  They see a special human, in all their specialness.   wink   (i say that sarcastically, btw  smile  )   I had a weird experience along these lines several years ago.  I was standing in front of a pretty big mirror in the bathroom in my old apartment.  It was big enough to see down to one's hip region.  So I'm standing there in front of the mirror, gazing at myself in a spaced out way, where you just stare and stare and stare at the image in the mirror, and things get kind of blurred (anybody here ever do something like this?)   then things changed, and I suddenly saw myself in a completely different way.

I saw myself as a primate.  I saw myself the way an alien life form with a completely different physical structure would see my reflection had they jumped into my body at that moment.    I wasn't me, I was a PRIMATE.    It was FREAKY.   And I'm somebody who's studied up on primates, and researched the whole chimps and bonobos thing, even visiting the San Diego zoo so I could see real Bonobos and Gorillas, orangatans, etc.   Despite ALL of that.....I still never had the experience of seeing myself as a "primate" in the way that an alien life form would view me. 

!!!   It actually scared me a little.  I didn't like it.   But I reflected on it afterwards and realized it was a good experience to have.   Knock me down a couple of notches, remind me of what this body shell really is.   


BTW.....I'm having an ear ringing right now as I type this, right ear, 1:28 p.m............!   Go figure.   Right ear for me usually always signifies a positive "affirmative" of sorts.   Interesting...


seeker wrote:

They seem to be reading your mind when you make eye contact with them. I swear I've had entire conversations with cats before just by locking eyes with them.

Seeker.......I can't help it, I totally thought of this movie called "Go" from 1999, has anybody here seen this movie??   big_smile   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139239/?fr … ;ft=6;fm=1
There's a scene where one of the characters, Manny, is trippin on E and he's in this one guy's apartment and sees the pet cat, and him and the cat start having a telepathic conversation.   There's subtitles to show what the cat is saying.   The cat's face is blank and expressionless and it says "You're going to die!"  and Manny's like, "UGH?!?"    It's funny if you see it, just because the cat is so blank and Manny's very high.  But in all seriousness, I totally know what you mean, my cat is the same way.   I can mentally call her to me from anywhere in the apartment, it's pretty cool.  I've had even more detailed, telepathic "communications" with her, but that's the least loony one to mention!  big_smile 

About Nightmare Hall............anytime I hear about some "controversial" cloning experiment that's been leaked to the public to much outrage I ALWAYS think of Dulce's Nightmare Hall.  We'll never know if it's actually true, but I don't doubt that this stuff is going on, not at all.   The public gets to hear one or two random tidbits and they're all up in arms, outraged.  They have NO idea.   That's not even the tip of the tip of the iceberg.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: Atlantean Genetic Creations-Cats are part "Gray", Pigs are part human

Yea it could all be bunk....but boy the evidence to suggest otherwise is awfully strong isn't?  I should admit at this time that I have always looked at cats as "unique".  Something is amiss with them.  When I was a kid, I loved cats and always wanted one.  Finally got one when I was older and just to watch my cat behave is something else.  She behaves as if someone or something else is in the room with her, is always aloof, Its as if they are tuned into a different frequency which is something I have read about but i dont remember where.  I think it was something to do with the fact that the cats where created with a frequency akin to the Greys perhaps...or other Aliens....I can't remember.  I also read that the frequency cats are tuned into allows them to connect with their "creators" which is the reason cats always seem to go out and night and could be the reason why my cat always tends to go to the window at night and stare up at the sky. 

Then there is the attention that cats receive in the media and what not.  The Broadway play..Cats was huge...I dont think that is just mere coincidence.  It brings to mind the old saying..."Cats Eye" because they seem to see us and beyond us...if you know what I mean.  Whenever I see my cat acting up I always say..."That old cats eye eh...."..lol..........You never know...