They Sold Their Soul To Rock And Roll: Aleister Crowley (Page 3 of 8)

I read some of Crowley's writings where he cites the importance of knowing the Hebrew letters and everything that is associated with each letter.  That is something that I have also been finding relavant.  Oh yeah, and he mentions that anyone that devotes their time and energy toward this, will develope a great memory.  I think that alone is very important. Giordano Bruno was noted for having an incredible memory.  I wonder how he developed it.

I took the day off because I've worked six days a week for ten weeks straight, and wanted a breather.  I'm trying to complete a lesson since I have the whole day, but it is too difficult to do in one setting without a break every so often.

Precisely, SiriArc!

For instance, even thinking, as I do, that yawehism, church christianity and organised islam are frauds, that doesn't prevent me from delving the significance of their symbols and formulae.. hundreds of generations of real mystics have charged the myths and names with resonance. Qabalah, Gnosticism and Sufism are central to my practical exploration, far more than Buddhism.

If you deconstruct even the hyper-lame Scientology mythos you'll find elements of gnostic doctrine. Be it ripped off from Hubbard's time in Parson's company or simple inevitable creative resonance with types and archetypes, it doesn't matter... once you've parsed the mythos, what does Xenu mean to YOU? ;-p

The importance here is on actually parsing the information, finding out what bits of n-th hand retelling actually pertain to source material, parsing the source material iteslf, THEN making resonance considerations or judgement calls on content.

Doing the last bits first will have two negative effects:

1) Precluding certain studies on prejudice.
2) Accepting certain presentations on prejudice (I call it the "head-bobber" effect)

The Crowley claptrap serves both purposes.

1) Sow confusion and fear over a vast area of occult study
2) Crowley is an intermediate "head-bobber" for insinuating evil in just about anything.

preliminary head-bobbers are truisms. sowing the beginning of a presentation with these gets the reader's head bobbing early.. the goal is to keep it bobbing throughout the article.

intermediate head-bobbers are "popular truisms" or tribal myths, that while not necessarily true (as surely as the sun circles round us each day!) are widely accepted. Mythological and Semimythological figures are often used (e.g. Nero, Crowley, Hitler, JFK, Lincoln, Jesus Christ)

in the end a string of different types of head bobbers keeps the reader in accord throught the article which usually comprises at least a couple incredibly, absurdly and obviously false statements, exaggerations or distortions; and entropy in general moves up a peg or two.

"Make yourself ignorant and there is more stupidity in the world" to negatively paraphrase a common booster-phrase.

93/93, yo...

:-))

Now see, Dwight* is obviously a serious, right-thinking citizen. He even knows to stand at attention whilst bobbing.

[*if that is indeed his real name.]

Zejith_Themis, is the head-bobber saying, "uh-huh, uh-huh, yup, that's right, keep telling it brother!" I just had that picture crop up in my mind, is why I ask.

I hear what Nexus is saying also.  Information from a certain source which may be accurate, can also lead a person into putting possibly too much trust in that which is the propounder of this information.  I guess Nexus is back to saying Crowley is evil and that no good can come from evil.  I'm starting to get confused and that is never helpful.

I'll just quote Horace Greeley, " I accept unreservedly, the views of no man, living or dead."

Truth may be defined as that which is Reality; and present human intelligence can make but approximate advances or approaches to this Cosmic REAL which is measureless in its profundity and in its infinite reaches, and therefore never fully comprehensible by any finite intellect. It was a wise declaration, in one way, that Pontius Pilate made, as alleged, when Jesus, the great Syrian Initiate, was brought before him: "What is Truth!"; for a man who knows Truth in fulness would have an active intelligence commensurate with the Universe: and whose intelligence is universe-wide?

There are, however, relative truths, and it is relative truth that the human mind can comprehend and therefore can understand.

There is only relative proof also.  For if anyone declares a man is disclosing absolute proof, this person is declaring the man as well as himself infallible.  There is blind faith. In otherwords, something claimed as true because it says that it is true in this Book or that Book; this is what dogma has become.  People who pledge themselves to this type of creed, immediately allegorize every other creed as false.  The man who truly KNOWS is always reticent, if not invariably silent. He never in any situation calls attention to himself as a prophet or a seer. He says to those around him: "You have within yourselves the divine touchstone, by which you may test reality. Use this; in fact develope it.  I think it is an attribute that achieves great potential when a sturdy foundation of information, knowledge and understanding is built.  I feel this attribute is intuition.  A little voice inside each of us that says this is true, that is false.

As far as the evidence that people seem to be compiling toward proving that Bush blew up the world trade center, I don't think anyone in the federal government is interested at all in actually exposing this if it is true.  I think that our noble statesmen and women in the federal government are like the USSR and USA during the cold war.  I can't think of the phrase, what kept the two from going to war was the capability of assured mutual and total destruction.

Nexus:

I don't think I agree with that at all... if anything "Ultimate Source" would be the viewpoint that actually does see all as neutral, and it is only Specific Viewpoint that can make a resonance call for positive or negative. "Ultimate Source" would necessarily be Source of all, therefore dissonant with none, no?

In manifestation there is only relative truth. Any universal truth would have to be incomprehensible from a specific, manifest viewpoint, wouldn't it?

I mean it would have to reconcile all possible viewpoints; the murderer and the victim, the ant and the anteater, the virus and the leukocyte, the oxygen, the hydrogen, the water produced and the rocket being upward thrust would all be one and non-contradictory in "ultimate truth"; a truth as useless "in the field" as living in a perennial Acid peak.

also, Antaeus:

I was just shooting down false statements and faulty procedure in my posts, not dragging into the question of "ultimate truth", and the question of putting ANY amount of TRUST ito ANYTHING should not come up.

To say what you think nexus is saying is to miss my entire point. The information being accurate should not be a one-time check, that if it checks out leads to resigning oneself that that source has a hotine to truth.

NO! BAD SEEKER, BAD! 

Verify always! Reputation should be a null consideration, if you're interested in truth you're interested in truth; not image, not rep, not hype, not habit... just the facts, Ma'am.

And there is no proof. Even firsthand perception is liable to the filters of perception.  Look closely into everything, master the sophistication of "scientific proof" and "logic" but don't BELIEVE in THEM either.

And information is by itself neutral. Were this not so, the task of spiritual seeking would be, at this point, impossible due to the amount of intentional corruption layered onto all teachings through the ages by TPTB. --

But the fact is you can remedy "positive" information from frauds intentionally placed for control (you can still extrapolate valid mysticism from the Big 3 Religious frauds, for example) . If that doesn't attest to the negentropic power of conciousness I don't know what does.

If there were only Newtonian entropy without the negentropic factor of conciousness the whole show would be run down by now, and there would be no such thing as "valid information" left.

I think that we can determine what use we make of information, and effectively decide it's value -regardless of original intent behind the communication- just as similar sounds or scratchings on paper can be completely different signifiers for people with different cultural backgrounds.

Now with that said, it's obvious that 100% false information can be used to in a positive way, idealy, but applying false statements as if they were true is obviously going to lead to trouble.

Understanding Plato's Myth of the Cave is good use of Myth.  Spending generations of time and capitals of cash actually searching for the geographic location of said cave is not.

Is that viewpoint at all clear?

Negentropic.  So if I want better chances to have a certain number appear, its better to roll two dice than one.

...It may be interesting, before passing on, to allude to one mystery-fact in illustration of the allegorical and symbolical character of the events described in the New Testament. It is there stated, in the words giving the mystical story of Jesus, that he came riding towards and into Jerusalem on an ass and the foal of an ass; and thereafter came unto him his life-work in the earthly Jerusalem; leading, as the legend sets it forth, to his arrest, his trial before the Roman Proconsul, Pontius Pilate, and to his death.

It is to be noted carefully that in the Oriental Mystical Cycle of the Hither East, or what is now called Asia Minor, the Planet Saturn was frequently mystically called and figurated under the form of an 'ass' -- or rather the ass represented that planet in mystical symbolology. In equivalently characteristic mystical symbolology the 'foal of the ass' was this Earth, because the ancient seers taught that this physical globe Earth was under the direct formative influence of the planet Saturn. This curious fact, and the teaching connected with it, which will indubitably strike the modern Westerner as being both extraordinary and startling, was based upon the ancient teaching of the Esoteric Philosophy concerning the interblending powers and influences of all the celestial bodies forming the solar system, each such body being intimately involved not merely in the life and evolution of every other body, but aiding in the formation or building of every other such body. It is likewise to be remembered in this connexion that the cyclical peregrinations of the Monad after death -- reference to which has been made elsewhere in the present work -- take place strictly according to the law and the established order in the Solar System, and according to the psycho-magnetic pathways, called the Circulations of the Universe, running from one planet to another, and connecting the sun and all his family of planets.

It is likewise to be remembered that the 'earthly Jerusalem,' according to the Jewish mystical symbolology, was this Earth, as the 'heavenly Jerusalem,' according to the Christian symbolology, was the 'City of God' in spiritual spheres and the goal of human attainment. When the reader remembers these facts, which it is taken for granted that he knows, he may begin to have a clearer idea of the highly mystical and esoteric significance of this story.

The Spiritual Soul, the inner Christos, rides into 'Jerusalem' -- material existence on Earth -- on an ass, meaning Saturn, and the foal of an ass, meaning this Earth; and the Monad, the Christ-Spirit, descending into matter thus,...

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