1 Topic by ermolai (edited by ermolai 2004-09-17 08:49:45)

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  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Topic: Rebirthing

Maybe this thread can be used to share experiences of "rebirthing" (in all its forms) and what insights were gained from them.

I personnally had a spontaneous rebirthing a few nights ago. I realized a single thing on a metaphysical level which put meaning into years of suffering, and suddenly I burst into tears and cried for 2 hours straight. After that I felt completely different, and I still do to a large extent. It's like if I got back an old vehicle of mine and don't quite remember how to use it yet. wink

I'm aware that it's a gradual process, that all of life is about finding again who we are,  yet I never had such a strong feeling of starting to find myself again. Really, it was all about remembering. On a chakra level I felt it as the removing of major blocks on the 2nd chakra, which then fred much energy in the throat chakra. I've read that the two are strongly linked, in relation with creativity and self-expression, and I can really now testify for it.

I was in Holland last month and had an interesting discussion with someone who had went through several types of emotional therapies such as rebirthing and holotropic breathwork. He said that it somehow didn't really help him, that it was just a temporary release and then he was back to his old problems. We both understood that there was more to emotional release, that it needed to be linked with UNDERSTANDING, that is to say, LOVE. (Emotions cannot be separated from the intellectual process, they go together, they need each others. When these two worlds work together then you can have a link between the earth and the sky.)

These "weekend sessions for rebirthing" are in my opinion not so valuable, and even could be dangerous as the problem is again that people try to force something into birth, rather than allow the spontaneous process to unfold naturally. I understand this frustration, when there is so much suffering and you can't keep on, yet I feel there is no choice but to bear with the suffering. In the end it all comes at the right time, and as I wrote on another thread, for me this happened just at the right time. It's like if a part of me knew that this would happen at this space/time, after I had travelled in my understanding.

I also feel a strong connection with shamanic/toltec teachings. As I understand it, recapitulation frees, through UNDERSTANDING, the part of us which are trapped in lies, in illusion, in the timeloop, in the illusory "past". Then not-doing allows us to adjust our patterns / habits to these new energies which have come back to us.

Any thoughts on this?

(I need to admit, once and for all, that it's strange for me to write like this, I'm always afraid of coming across as arrogant, yet I know this is part of my old self I have to let go. I understood today that sometimes what is selfish/STS is to hold the things we know are true. I also know self-expression is one of the most healing thing, both for self and otherself)

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  • Registered: 2004-09-03

Re: Rebirthing

ermolai wrote:

I personnally had a spontaneous rebirthing a few nights ago. I realized a single thing on a metaphysical level which put meaning into years of suffering, and suddenly I burst into tears and cried for 2 hours straight. After that I felt completely different, and I still do to a large extent. It's like if I got back an old vehicle of mine and don't quite remember how to use it yet.

I would like to discuss this but am unfamiliar with rebirthing. Could you elaborate?

Once I was at home enjoying an evening ecstacy high while watching a Len Horowitz video where he describes in detail the murals in Denver airport and their symbology in relation to the NWO, global elite and what they are trying to communicate through them. I slowly came to a realization of the immense sorrow involved with these individuals and what they plan to do to humanity. I have to say that it impacted me in a special way. After bringing me to tears I understood that there is a terrible, terrible situation going on. I thought of the innocents who would still (in the future) die in vain and the conspirators themselves from a humble perspective which made me realize that they themselves are the ones in most need of our unconditional love.

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3 Reply by ermolai (edited by ermolai 2004-09-19 11:13:37)

  • From: sw tz rl nd
  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: Rebirthing

Xenopope wrote:

I would like to discuss this but am unfamiliar with rebirthing. Could you elaborate?

My use of the word "rebirthing" is a bit liberal. Strictly speaking, it is a breathwork method which is supposed to allow you to release the trauma of birth and allow you to become yourself again. I do not know if similar techniques used to heal other kinds of trauma (which are in my opinion widespread due to the utter violence of the society we live in, no matter what background we come from) are also named "rebirthing". Anyway rebirthing for me was the release of a tremendous amount of energies trapped in the past which made me feel like I could finally be myself again.

Xenopope wrote:

Once I was at home enjoying an evening ecstacy high while watching a Len Horowitz video where he describes in detail the murals in Denver airport and their symbology in relation to the NWO, global elite and what they are trying to communicate through them. I slowly came to a realization of the immense sorrow involved with these individuals and what they plan to do to humanity. I have to say that it impacted me in a special way. After bringing me to tears I understood that there is a terrible, terrible situation going on. I thought of the innocents who would still (in the future) die in vain and the conspirators themselves from a humble perspective which made me realize that they themselves are the ones in most need of our unconditional love.

The realization which triggered "my" "rebirthing" was also all about unconditional love and freeing you and others from the hell of karma timeloop and STS predator/prey feeding. Seems like there is a pattern here... Ra's material has a really good perspective on this in my opinion.

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