1 (edited by Thoth 2004-10-08 17:06:31)

Topic: If you stop looking t.v.

I have quit watching T.V. but after just more then a week i get a light headache almost the whole day and this is now almost a week know that i have this, and it just feels very weird.:rolleyes:
normaly i have never a headache or i must be sick or something.
I think personal it's whitdraw syptoms.

Have anyone had similarly things experienced?

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Sometimes watching tv gives me a headache. Most of it feels like outright etheric raping of my conciousness (comercials and reality shows like Fear Factor . . . why would _anyone_ _ever_ watch this sh! a aaah! makes me want to curse). It is just the absolute most repulsive thing I would never have imagined!

Also, Congradulations on turning the tv off. That's the first step. I love turning the tv off. It's like ecstasy, whenever I need relief I just turn off the tv!

As a second step, I would recommend you remove the television from your home. Just get rid of it completely or take it out of your home and put it somewhere else.

I hope you feel better soon!

I am as is Void.

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I haven't actively watched t.v. since 1998, that was the last time I lived in a place where i had cable set up, and the only reason we even had cable then was because the people before us (who were personal acquaintances) had paid for it in advance, but then moved out, so, they just left it for us to use until it ran out.   So before that it was 1996 when I lived somewhere with cable.   I've since sporatically watched it here and there, like when I'm traveling and staying in a motel, or those times I was a laundromat or restaurant where there is t.v.    I'm completely anti-TV though, and always encourage everybody to give it up and toss it out.  Like Xenopope said, just get rid of it altogether.   It truly serves no purpose.   And for those who would argue for the "educational" aspects of t.v., like the History Channel, the Discovery Channel, the Home and Garden Channel, the Cooking Channel, etc. all I can say is, there is NOTHING educational on t.v. that you can't get from alternative sources, ie, the internet, books, traveling, people, life, etc.    Nothing.   As far as headaches go, I'm one of those who feels weird in the head if I do watch it.   If someone recently gives it up and is experiencing headaches, it's probably withdrawals.     I once knew somebody who felt weird after giving up t.v., but after a few months they noticed that they felt weird if they watched it.   The 180 flip.   So, try to give it more time.   See how you feel in 2 months.

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Thanks for the reply,

I live at home with my parents and my sister and they al watch t.v. so it is almost impossible to get rid of the t.v., i have said it to them it's not healthy but they don't listen to me and are really not interested in this kind of things so thats there problem...
Anyway the t.v. that was in my room is gone, so i did my part what i can do but it is still hard to live whithout one because when i eat with the rest that thing is still on as always in the living room.
What i found interesting is when i am around the t.v. and it's on my headache is in a instand gone roll
So that's proof enough that thing is evil...

5 (edited by Ayahuasca 2004-10-10 10:53:06)

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lyra wrote:

It truly serves no purpose.   And for those who would argue for the "educational" aspects of t.v., like the History Channel, the Discovery Channel, the Home and Garden Channel, the Cooking Channel, etc. all I can say is, there is NOTHING educational on t.v. that you can't get from alternative sources.

Isn't entertainment a valid purpose? I completely agree that tv has almost no educational value, and as a source for news it is less than worthless.

However there have been a few tv shows over the years that I have got a lot of enjoyment out of watching, and still do to this day.

On average I usually watch less than 3 or 4 hours of tv per week. I never channel surf or watch tv just for the sake of it but there's usually 2 or 3 shows I'll watch purely for entertainment, and I really don't think there's anything wrong with that.

One of my current favourites is a show called "Six Feet Under". It doesn't educate me, it doesn't brainwash me or insult my intelligence. It usually has great storylines (it was originally devised by the guy who wrote American Beauty) and I get a lot of enjoyment out of watching it. Ditto "The Sopranos".

Owning a tv is not a bad thing in itself, it's how you use it that matters. If you spend all day in front of your tv channel surfing and watching nothing but crap then obviously that's stupid and you deserve to be a brainwashed zombie. But if you use it sparingly just to watch a few shows per week for entertainment then I don't think anyone can argue there's anything wrong with that.

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6 (edited by lyra 2004-10-10 11:11:01)

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Ayahuasca wrote:

 

lyra wrote:

It truly serves no purpose.   And for those who would argue for the "educational" aspects of t.v., like the History Channel, the Discovery Channel, the Home and Garden Channel, the Cooking Channel, etc. all I can say is, there is NOTHING educational on t.v. that you can't get from alternative sources.

Isn't entertainment a valid purpose? I completely agree that tv has almost no educational value, and as a source for news it is less than worthless.


What people choose to do is their own business.  I'm not here to tell people they're "wrong" or to pass judgement on how they spend their free time.   I didn't write what I wrote so people would feel like they have to respond and justify their actions and what they do.   What's funny is people in real life do what you did in your post.   Someone will ask me, "Oh, did you watch so-and-so program last night??"   And I'll be like, "No, actually, I don't even own a t.v."    Then usually, probably 8 times out of 10, they immediately start justifying themselves to me.   It's weird!    They'll start telling me that they only watch whatever # of hours a week, they only watch it for such and such programs, that's all, they don't "WATCH" watch t.v., they only just "watch" t.v.....just going on and on, justifying themselves, as I'm just sitting there, or standing there, not saying anything.  Very strange!    People shouldn't feel they need to justify what they do to anybody, let alone something as small as t.v. watching.   People take my comments about t.v. personally, and assume I'm passing judgement on those who choose to do differently from me.   Which I'm not.  Doesn't matter to me what everybody else does.   If the opportunity presents itself for me to say how I feel, or talk about what I know, such as with t.v. on a messageboard, I will.  But what everybody chooses to do after that is their own business.   


Ayahuasca wrote:

   Owning a tv is not a bad thing in itself, it's how you use it that matters. If you spend all day in front of your tv channel surfing and watching nothing but crap then obviously that's stupid and you deserve to be a brainwashed zombie. But if you use it sparingly just to watch a few shows per week for entertainment then I don't think anyone can argue there's anything wrong with that.

I disagree, because I happen to know that there's "spy" technology embedded within many people's cable boxes.   So just because one may "only" use it to watch "a couple" of shows per week, doesn't mean the t.v. isn't serving other purposes in its off time.   wink   Just some food for thought there.   I also disagree because for me, I just don't like t.v. and have absolutely no tolerance for any of it.   Again, that's just me.   Others are free to believe and do what they will.   In the end, we must all make choices based on what feels right for us.

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I've pretty much stopped watching TV altogether. There are no good shows on anymore ("reality TV" is the work of Satan), and I think I've long since reached my limit on X-Files re-runs. One of the other big reasons I stopped watching it happened when I came to America from England. I simply couldn't believe the sheer amount of advertising you guys have to suffer through here; it's absolutely f*cking ridiculous. The show starts, the opening credits roll ... break for five minutes of advertising ... back to the show, get maybe five minutes of it ... then break for another five minutes of advertising ... five more minutes of the show... another five minutes of adverts ... back to the show, and as the end credits start to roll they get shunted to one side so that we can be shown even more adverts. And you guys PAY good money for this shit?!?!?! Unbelievable. But I admit, breaking the TV habit is hard, hard, hard. It's like quitting smoking. I don't recommend going cold turkey on it. Just start cutting back very gradually, and it'll make the transition easier. Find other things to do with the time you used to spend watching TV: Read a book, go for a walk round the neighborhood, tidy up the house, visit a friend, learn a new skill, find a new hobby, etc, etc. I will also add here that watching TV late at night is not very good for you (and neither is sitting up at a computer screen) because the artificial light messes up your circadian rhythm, which can screw up your sleep cycle--especially during dark winter months. I'd recommend switching to using natural light at night i.e. candlelight if you can.

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I got rid of our tv about a year ago.  That was the silver lining of a very traumatic experience.  My kids and I were homeless on 9/11 because of a psycho ex-boyfriend.  One of the results of living in shelters for a while was that there was no tv!  I noticed that my kids seem to behave better, even though we were in this horrible situation.  So, after we settled down again I tried various experiments with limiting tv, and finally came to the conclusion that there was 'something' with tv that made them act worse.  Even wholesome PBS-type shows had this effect.  So, I finally got rid of it, and I'm not going back.
Kathy
PS Except for the whining nearby, I had no withdrawal symptoms. smile

Never Give Up!

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It's mutch better now so thats a relief and i kind of like it now i have now much more time to invest to things i really wanne do so thats also a plus smile but i have one more questen about this.
A tft display is that to much radiation or is that significant less because i use a older 19 inch monitor and i want to renew it.
I have searched the internet too for this topic and they say it's less but i wanne know what you experience to make my decision easier?
Beforehand thanks for the replay smile

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Flatscreen TFT monitors don't have cathode ray tubes in them, so you betcha that's less radiation.

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

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Yeah, flatscreen monitors lack the x-rays, positive ions, ultrasound, vector magnetic potential stream, and obnoxious 60/75Hz flickering of CRT monitors. However, they do still flicker ... definitely a better choice if you can afford it.

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12 (edited by Atlantis 2004-10-14 09:23:14)

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The main issue is not discussed out, yet.

Besides the radiation risks and the unhealthy electronic influences, the real
danger with watching TV these days is the frequency/intensity and the speed of the images and movements on the screen.

When you're watching TV you're watching to thousands of pixels fluctuating
from red to green to blue, that's all.

And your pineal gland (3rd eye) is not prepared on this.
So, TV is damaging the function of your pineal gland. At the same time
STS are easier invading in your auric field because your pineal gland is less able to close your auric fields because
it is misdirected by the high-speed movements on the screen.

Again, TV programs (you name the word program !) are developed to
invite STS-entities and to block your ask/initiatives for help of divine energies.

The speed of the screen-movements shifts the watcher's ability to objective awareness.
So, frequent TV-watching implies: believing everything what is broadcast:
eq. What you see, is what you (have to) believe.

Televison is the most powerfull weapon of the hidden powers.
It's Mind-Control and astral invasion caused by 1 DEVICE.

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a kid had this shirt on yesterday;

BOYCOTT REALITY T.V.

i told him "nice shirt dude"

I am surprised at some of you who say quitting TV is hard.

TURN IT OFF.

its all in the mind.

I quit smoking ciggs after approx 3 years (i know thats not much) COLD TURKEY this jan '04. only had 3 ciggs since then.

the ONLY thing ill ever watch TV for is a good flick or a funny show such as that 70s show, for the humor factor. just to laff.

A friend of mine said that TV mind control is for weakminded people, and i agree. you have the power to laff at all the stupid crap you see on TV and to realize what its really trying to do. but, not watching TV at all eliminates any suspicion.

QUESTION for MONTALK/ATLANTIS:

you say the TV unit shoots all kinds of Rays and stuff from the tubes, potentially harmful... ok, but what if you watch TV on your PC thru a TV-card ? does this minimize that? what about computer monitors? you know, i dont know about all of that stuff about the TV actually shooting harmful stuff at you is true... but u could be scaring yourself into making it true... either way i dont watch TV just cuz the programs on there are ... programming the masses to be stupid, and to accept a fake reality in exchange for their own.

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Just thought I'd add some more general comments about t.v. here, as food for thought:

-  T.V. programs just tend to be stoopid in general, I'm sure many here have noticed that. There have been some genuinely clever / well written programs over the years, sure, but in general, it's just kinda dum.  So, one side effect of extensive t.v. watchnig, or even daily t.v. consumption in minor doses can be the lowering of intellectual expectation.  You stop expecting intellectual stimulation and intellectual conversation from the world around you because your model of expectation has been established and reinforced by the "glass teat."

- Relating to this, when we watch t.v. we're just sitting there, absorbing.  It's a chance for many to "turn off their heads" and veg.  Relax from a day at work, or a day dealing with the kids. Sink down in that comfy sofa, rest your head on the pillow, and begin click click clicking with the remote control. Then we just lay there and let t.v. talk to us.  We're not thinking in the true sense of the word most of the time and we're certainly not interacting with anything.  It's a one way feed.  We just lie there and veg while being pummelled with garbage.  Baaaaaaaaad habit to get into!  There are other ways to relax, and I don't recommend this one!  Even if you're just watching movies on t.v., it's like Neomatrix mentioned earlier...there's an INSANE amount of advertising on t.v. in this country.  Every 5 minutes it seems. 

- ...and relating to this, what's interesting about the advertising thing is, if you get away from t.v. long enough you should ideally find yourself suddenly becoming completely intolerant to advertising.  Avid t.v. watchers don't even seem to notice the commercials and leave them blaring in the background without a second thought.  (and I use the word "blaring" for a reason...............it's a known fact that the volume of commercials is louder than the programs...)   But give up t.v. for awhile and THEN see what happens.   Has anybody here noticed this?  I know Montalk feels this way.  And I definately have this problem now.  I can't even stand to HEAR a commercial on t.v those times I do find myself around it.............I can't even deal with RADIO anymore for this very reason!   I literally get a little freaky inside if I hear a commerical on the radio and go AHH!  and immediately start grappling for the dial to get it off, get it off, get rid of it!  ahhh!   It's not a staged reaction, it's genuine.  This is what over 6 years of lack of t.v. has done. 
   
- And yes, the longer you go without t.v., the more you will find that it negatively affects your head when you are around it.  You'll find that you get used to the quiet, the lack of all that electronic "noise" that's emitted from it.  The quiet starts to feel good!  It's nice!  You learn how to concentrate and focus again!  Woohoo!  But then you may find yourself around a television again, maybe when you're over somebody's house hanging out, and you'll notice that you may feel a little bit "frowny".  Your brows are furrowed.  It's noisy.  It's distracting.  It's...............chaotic.  Your head may even start to hurt.  And the content of the programs................nothing but nasty negativity.  From the "news", to those reality t.v. shows, to even regular programming.  It's all so inane, and yes, negative.  You never really noticed it before, but now in your new quiet, post-TV life, it stands out like a sore thumb.  Yikes! 

Just some random thoughts.......

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Zonabi wrote:

you say the TV unit shoots all kinds of Rays and stuff from the tubes, potentially harmful... ok, but what if you watch TV on your PC thru a TV-card ? does this minimize that? what about computer monitors?

If you watch TV on a PC with a flatscreen or laptop, then you minimize the majority of cathode-ray-tube (CRT) emissions. Regular computer monitors are the same, except they have better refresh rates so they flicker at 60 or 75 cycles per second instead of TV's 30 (or 24?) frames per second - which is easier on the eyes.

Zonabi wrote:

you know, i dont know about all of that stuff about the TV actually shooting harmful stuff at you is true... but u could be scaring yourself into making it true...

Paranoia always amplifies things, even things that aren't there. On the other hand, awareness is a prerequisite for moving yourself out of harm's way. CRT's give off positive ions, which are known to cause fatigue and irritability. They also emit X-rays that are dangerous at close range (several inches -- but who watches TV at several inches?).

As for the vector magnetic potential (VMP) field, that comes from electrons being shot from the back of the TV toward the screen in the direction of the viewer. VMP fields follow the direction of electron motion and are known to affect biological processes, so TV's could be used to make you sick.

Bringers of the Dawn wrote:

Modern technology is one of the biggest weapons of frequency control. You have been sold devices for entertainment and convenience, and they are all involved with frequency control. We recommend strongly that you get rid of your television sets. They are the primary tool used to manipulate your consciousness on a day-to-day basis. This experiment is so finely tuned that you respond subliminally to disease via the television. So there is an entire generation that is killing itself by watching television-and supporting the medical society while they are doing it.

Sometimes liberating information is broadcast-perhaps even a New Age show. However, you may watch such a television show about how uplifted and unlimited you can be, while subliminally you are being hit with a frequency that keeps you from original thinking. This subliminal keeps you immobilized and holds you in a "survive, arrive, be-on-time, be-silent, go-towork" society. Television also promotes inactivity and a sedentary, obese life. Look around you. Wake up, humans!

Most of the subliminals on television are done through technology that was developed in conjunction with off-planetary beings. The use of subliminals to upset human consciousness has become a worldwide program. If you think about the houses that have two, three, and four televisions in them, you must agree that this has been a very successful marketing program. Some people who know about the subliminals on television feel that they are immune to them. However, the effects of television are so permeating that no matter how clear you say you are going to be, you cannot counterbalance what the technology is presently doing to your vibrational frequency.

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