I have tried to expand upon ways to round up our creation in a tidy way. I used the destenian approaches to 'separation' and 'oneness' and 'trust in self' to make things a bit clearer for me. There's still a long way to go and I did not turn into a destenian (at least not yet 
) Thanks SiriArc for the unique way in which you contribute, although it is slightly intangible for me now.
Would turning into a non-creator be a good way to shut down a creation?
INTRODUCTION
This page goes on to explore further the premises upon which the desteni approach seems to be built. This time I would like to spend some thoughts on the concepts of separation and oneness and its connection with creating creators and the divine dilution idea. This idea refers to the distortion that would have set in because there would be too many creators, creating endlessly perhaps not knowing enough on how to sustain and eventually wrap up their own creations.
HOW TO END THIS CREATION DECENTLY?
I have come to the point where I want to invest my energy in exploring ways to end this current creation in a decent fashion. The concept of biological ascension is based on the idea of wrapping up this creation, starting with the most physical layers first. I'm not sure if the desteni group is working on ending this creation as well; they do seem to want to push some kind of 'reset' button. The question that is central to me these days is: what is the best way to assist 'my' sub-creator in realizing this shut down process in a respectful way.
Let me be clear on this: shutting down would be equal to returning all aspects that were created back to the ones who created them; ending creations by inhaling them so to speak. But how would this process function? What is the role of the creator and what is the role of the ones created?
SEPARATION
In order to further explore this connection between the creator and its creation (filled with other subcreators) I want to see if the way the desteni group deals with this issue can shed some new light on these matters. The concept of separation seems to be quite important within their perspective. I can remember people (regardless of their density) claiming that every single thought is an act of separation. Every word spoken would be an act of separation. Language would develop a sense of separation.
They seem to hold the belief that there is something like 'the self' and its products which turn into 'objects of separation' as soon as they are thought or spoken. To translate this perspective into 'creator-created'-terms you could conclude that the desteni group favors the idea that everything that a creator creates or manifests is by definition separate from itself.
Since the desteni philosophy wants to work towards what they call 'oneness and equality' they want to end all forms of separation. If I would, once again, paraphraze that into 'creator-creation' terminology it would imply that 'oneness and equality' could be achieved if a creator would be able to stop any act of creating. Without creating anything, the creator would remain in itself, and be itself, without any separations.
Attached to this belief in 'Being the self without creating thoughts or words' is that it would be possible to 'live more completely' within this state. Being your self in every moment would give one the ultimate tools of living in some optimal state of 'oneness and equality'. Faith is expressed in the ability of the self to act harmlessly. If one could live in such a state it would end separation and one would contribute to a better world.
CAN YOU MUZZLE MILLIONS OF CREATORS?
If you take in consideration the 'first molecule'-concept presented by desteni it becomes rather complicated. The idea given is that of a creator who 'felt lonely' and wanted to experience itself, it therefore decided to duplicate itself. These duplicated parts went on to duplicate themselves and they started to individualize, especially after the 'prime creator' decided to add all kinds of forms to the new creators.
If these creators all continued creating worlds you can imagine the vastness of all the creations created ever since the first act of creation. What would happen if all these creators would decide to stop their expansions? What would happen if all creators in the 'omniverse' would collectively stop creating?
Would creations start to fade out because they are no longer fed? Would all creators start looking within and would they see who they really are? Would they realize that there is a difference between what they created and what they are themselves? Would they be able to tune within and connect to their own creator instead of the external focus on creating and upholding their creations? Would creators be willing to stop creating, even when it can be so extremely interesting?
A NAIVE TRUST?
If you take into consideration that our present state of affairs can be viewed as rather distorted, with probably all kinds of harmful distortion going in all kinds of layers of existence, together with the rather mechanized way that we have come to live our lives, we could wonder what the effects of non-creation would be like.
People living a rather mechanized life are often considered as easy preys for other people and other dimensional folks. The reason being that they are simply unaware of them being (partially) used, exploited or enslaved.
If you would be able to drop quite a lot of these mechanized/harmful thought-forms from your system, you could try to become a non-creator: creating nothing: no new thoughts, no new ideas, no nothing, because you could see it as new signs of 'separation' and expansion. It could indeed prove to be counterproductive to keep on creating if the goal would be to 'round up' this creation by returning home.
The question however remains: if you turn yourself into a non-creator, replacing your ability to think, feel or reflect with a trust in an 'aware-self-in-the-now' would you notice the harmful acts of others? Can you be sure that you are able to defend yourself against these energetic attacks? Or, would you become an easy prey for those not willing to work towards 'rounding up creation'? I cannot tell.
SOME CONCLUDING THOUGHTS
At this stage I would like to say that this concept of 'oneness and equality' might even work if only all creators would collectively decide to tune within instead of tune without. Since I don't think that this is a likely option, I would not give away one of the most powerful tools a creator has: its power to create.
Another thing that needs to be considered is the possibility that by turning into a non-creator, you might also turn off your possibility to understand what happened, what caused the various distortions to arise? But then again if your trust in the 'self' is big enough you might believe that the self is able to understand matters as well, perhaps without using words, because it is connected to the whole.
I still am not sure about what might be the best way to 'round up' a creation: is it a good way to fix a creation by withdrawing any creative potential from a creation? Couldn't it compared to watching people fighting and harming each other and instead of finding ways to understand (and perhaps even help) these people, you decide to 'turn off your creativity' and 'become your self' trusting that perhaps the self would know what to do in these circumstances.
The biggest drawback of this limitless trust in the 'self' is that it was this self in the first place that created the circumstances. If your aim is to simply become the self again, the self is likely to repeat the same 'mistakes' again. Perhaps it is our task to teach our self what aspects of its creation are beneficial and which aspects are harmful. Perhaps the creator is not able to do this by itself, but it just might require the input from its own creation to understand. I therefore think that it is our responsibility (as sub creators) to provide our creator/self with the information to learn. If we focus on nullification our creator is unlikely to learn anything.
Words don't mean a thing. Words make all the difference in the world.
