Divine Dilution (Page 1 of 2)

Hi Titmouse, I have noticed you in the dead series realms!

What I am exploring is the possibility that the geniuses creating are in a way creating new worlds (if only in the astral realms) which requires energy to sustain, thereby diluting the energy-average of others. In that sense it would be more beneficial seen from an 'astral-economic'-perspective to be an imitator, because that would probably not require new worlds to be created.

Perhaps one of the problems that our creator might face is that there are far too many creators (and geniuses) in its creations, depleting the creations of their natural resources, invoking shortages which amount to others plundering other creations in order to sustain themselves.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not believing all this, I'm just testing if this perspective could hold any useful elements.

Maybe the Creator's intent was to become individualized.

I don't think that would be the case that the Creator would have problems. As a world, everyone who is a 4d candidate ascends together, not one person by himself. Some friends of mine said that we are already in 5th, just that not at the point we would recognize it actively. We're going in a steady process.

As we ascend, we would learn more that it's a process in the universe. If you have attachments, you would have trouble opening your crown. So as we ascend, we will either learn and accept, or go back in a time warp with that we have to face Ancient Earth. Life is a school, learn it... Or go back and retry.

The Creator has no problem, because this was Its intent.

Also, as we ascend, we are able to survive easier. The universe was created metaphysically.
I'm not sure about this yet, but in 4d, our physical skin would be elastic-like and easier to survive due to the frequency that changed.

The merging back to the Creator already happened, it's that we're the dreamed.

Hi Spi,

As you know I like the biological ascension idea a lot, and it all comes down to beliefs in a way (although not completely). I don't know which brand of ascension you resonate with, but I like the Mila/SSoA-perspective, although there are quite a few elements that I have doubts about. Seen from this ascension perspective there is a creator that doesn't know everything. It is a creator that learns through his past creations.

The idea of 'too many creators' was mentioned in a september 2007 article, it really wasn't conceived by me. I am just playing around with it a bit. To quote a small part:

If we would deal with a creator that is learning, we can never be sure if all this really was its intent. Perhaps it is also just trying to see what is possible and what is not, how creating works and what are the pitfalls?

Hi Gibbon, nice to meet you too, great to see you posting in Noble Realms!

I certainly don't deny the existence of non-physical 'loosh vampires'. However, I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the amount of energy available to sustain creation(s).

Obviously from a certain perspective energy is limited. All physical beings require energy to sustain themselves in the form of food. It would also seem that some types of non-physical beings require subtle emotional/fear based energy to sustain themselves. But whether that's got anything to do with the amount of creations and  creators, I have no idea. It's certainly a valid hypothesis. But something that, in my opinion, will always remain part of the infinite mystery!

Spi, I am not yet convinced of the STS-STO-polarity. I guess this also depends on the perspective you take. Seen from the perspective of the 'ultimate creator' everything would be STS, right, and that seems quite reasonable and acceptable to me. For now I don't see too much advantage in using terms like STS and STO. I like the harmful-harmless continuum better.

Seen from the ascension-angle STO is not a very clever thing to do, since it implies attachments and loss of energy. On top of that it gives energy to others that would probably do better to learn to hold on to their own energy themselves.

I would like to accept the idea that vampires are not able to connect to any higher source because they are so 'distorted' or harmful. Perhaps that is the dynamic: in the creational avalanche certain things could happen that would cause a sense of distortion, leading to a lesser contact with the original source, causing energetic creational sustenance problems. These problems could only be solved by either becoming more distorted by invading others or by fixing the original distortion.

If this would be the case then the solution for the next creational round would be to prevent any distortion from occurring whatsoever. How to fix the 'problem' or interesting challenge in this creation? (or creations)

Hi there Spi, that's the problem with certain words, it is being interpreted in various ways. The problem I have with these terms is the heavy connotation of 'bad', 'longing for power' with STS, whereas the service to self can be the best approach to boost your own average vibratory level, as long as it doesn't negatively affect others.

STO is used in a 'light' and 'positive' way which I find rather confusing as well. Service to Others seems to imply (at least for me) less service to self. Within my perspective being harmless is the main issue, and when Service to self is upheld in a harmless way I believe that your vibration increases, allowing you to tune into other aspects of this creation which all try to understand themselves better, they are all doing service to themselves, eventually we might all be doing service to ourselves, meaning that we provide service for others at the same time, because the difference has been removed.

That's why I prefer not to use the terms STS and STO as defined at http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=3338: they are creating confusion in my opinion.