Topic: Unusual Flu

Hi guys and gals,

I'm needing some urgent advice.

Previously when I've had flu, it's lasted for between 7-10 days which is the usual cycle I believe. I contracted the "flu" which I now have, about six weeks ago.

I've had no aches or fever, but abundant mucous from chest and nose. Generally I've been weak and listless. The odd characteristic for this bout is that I recover after two weeks, am fine for a day or two, and then it returns.

Others in my village are suffering similarly, so it appears to be a particular strain, no doubt manufactured by our global masters.

Have any of you been through this and can you suggest some therapy?


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I work in a hospital and this year they are pushing flu and pneumonia vaccines on people like you wouldn't believe.  I wonder what the secret ingredient is.
  You might try oregano oil, add a couple drops to a pot of hot water and sniff the vapors carefully. Also, a product named Sambucol (black elderberry extract) is supposed to be effective against flu.

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Try this (Earth Clinic) or this ("Immunics") (PDF).

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Thanks to you both. Much appreciated.

I suspect these guys are really manipulating the viruses and releasing them onto unsuspecting humanity. A friend of mine, who doesn't buy into conspiracy theory, has a similar condition and is on his 6th course of antibiotic. Nice profit for the boys, isn't it.

Yesterday I had a conversation with a nice courier guy (would think I was whacko if I mentioned conspiracy) who said a friend of his also suffered a lengthy spell and, after her 5th course of antibiotic, her doctor said "Well, that's enough. Now I'm going to give you something that I know will work, but it's expensive".

"What was it?" I asked.

"Avian Bird Flu capsules, and it cleared her in a week! Wow, that stuff is really good!".

Sinister, isn't it?


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Sorry to hear you've been feeling it for so long.

If I had what you're describing, I would probably visit a local TCM (Trad. Chinese Medecine) practitioner and get diagnosed from their perspective.

Would probably involve a few points (acupuncture) and a round of herbs.

Hope you beat it, either way.

Just my two cents smile

6 (edited by lyra 2007-10-30 07:52:54)

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bruce wrote:

Yesterday I had a conversation with a nice courier guy (would think I was whacko if I mentioned conspiracy) who said a friend of his also suffered a lengthy spell and, after her 5th course of antibiotic......

Just a note that too much antiobiotics do damage over time.  They wipe out the good bacteria in one's digestive tract, as well as upping one's resistance to them over time.   It's best to go the all natural route when looking to kill bacteria, replenish with probiotic supplements, (available at any decent health food store or online) and look for ways to strengthen one's immune system and improve health overall, to aid in the body's ability to fight back.

Some natural supplements off the top of my head that help kill bacteria, viruses, parasites/critters, etc:

- Oregano oil
- Cayenne pepper
- Colloidal silver, prepared correctly
- Black walnut hull extract
- Garlic

Supposedly olive leaf extract too, although I don't have personal proof for this one. 

And again, supplement with some good probiotics. I use Jarrow brand, and buy it from the refrigerated section of Whole Foods.  Supposed to be a good brand. 

Get rid of junk food, fast food, white sugar, dairy, processed foods too in the meantime.  Eat whole foods, salads, things like that while trying to get well and shake this thing off.  You're trying to boost your immune system, and sugar, dairy, junk and fast foods wear it down big time.

A good quality vitamin C supplement probably wouldn't hurt.  Most are made with ascorbic acid and so don't really do anything for people.  So get it naturally via fruit juices, (if the sugar won't be too much for you...) or find a supplement that has it from natural sources like citrus fruits, acerola, etc. versus mainly from ascorbic acid.

In fact you can make a salad with dressing that will help get some of these ingredients all in one.  Make a salad full of (organic) veggies (include veggies of different colors) and homemade dressing of apple cidar vinegar, olive oil, cayenne pepper, crushed garlic and fresh squeezed lime juice.  It's very tasty, and serves a double purpose of being good for you too.

Other secondary health supplements like spirulina, chlorella, or any "Greens" sort of powder might help too, as they increase energy and are good for the body in general.   Concentrated spirulina is best though, as general greens powders tend to have like 20 things in them, and not a whole lot of any one thing.   

If I think of anything else I'll let you know........

Oh, and yes, I agree.......

bruce wrote:

her doctor said "Well, that's enough. Now I'm going to give you something that I know will work, but it's expensive".

"What was it?" I asked.

"Avian Bird Flu capsules, and it cleared her in a week! Wow, that stuff is really good!".

Sinister, isn't it?

....very sinister.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."

7 (edited by Barefoot Doc 2007-10-30 11:19:42)

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Another tool to consider for chronic chest or lung infections is a nebulizer (handy for chemtrail sprayings too)

They can be bought very cheaply now and are are excellent way to get remedies or oxygen to the mucous passages and throuhout the lungs. You can nebulize salt water, ozonated water or a low solution of hydrogen peroxide (0.5% max), colloidal silver or even lung herbs such as lobelia. The oxy therapies using this delivery method will oxidize any pollutents, pathogens or viruses in the lungs.
Also consider Ozone generators for the house, especially if you suspect chemtrail or deliberate contanimation of whole areas as these too will oxidize pollutents and pathogens in the air.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

8 (edited by Millenium 2007-10-31 18:03:41)

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Bruce,I had "it" whatever "it" was.  I tried the conventional holistic methods but after three weeks of  incredible mucous and constant coughing I sought an after hours clinic where I was diagnosed with walking pneumonia.  The Dr. said it probably started out as a sinus problem because of seasonal allergies and turned into an infection which turned into an upper respiratory infection.  She gave me an antibiotic called Levaquin (big mistake.. google this antibiotic and you will see some of the really bad side effects this baby can produce) and an inhaler.  I'm not a pharmacist and I don't know if Levaquin really does have flouride in it, but, by golly, I had all the symptoms of flouride poisoning. The Levaquin cost me over a hundred and sixty buckaroos and about three weeks of missed work.  Well, it's took me exactly seven weeks to get over this whatever it was.  When I first got sick I started out by putting about three drops of oregeno oil under my tongue three times of day. This usually nips whatever in the bud, but this time, nope.  I then tried my good ole neti-pot with the Neti Wash Plus which has zinc, goldenseal, grapefruit seed extract, and some homeopathic salts.  The neti pot was great but the zinc can mess up your taste buds. The mucous was still coming and when I say mucous I don't mean a runny nose we're talking running lava.  I tried Mucinex and received no results.  Then I got the cough and tried over-the-counter expectorants. The cough syrup kept the cough productive but then I started getting chest pains and I couldn't breathe.  I got scared when I started getting cold sweats (no body aches or pains) and I was breathing okay, but it felt like I was starved for oxygen, so I copped out and went to the doctor.  I could speculate on about fifty reasons why my respiratory tract freaked out. This "it" bug could be a result of chemtrail, unvaccinated farm workers, uranium dust, I mean who knows?, I'm sure someone will say they do.  I do know my immune system was down do to a lot of emotional upheaval like a sixty foot tree falling on my house and my mom being admitted to the hospital guessed it, pneumonia. She was given the pneumonia shot two weeks before while in the hospital for a bad fall caused by prescribed dementia medication over-dosing.  Alzheimer meds are another big pharma horror story. Anyway, people in close proximity to me didn't get sick but it does seem that a lot of my friends in really stressful situations out  are the ones who got "it."  If I had to re-treat my self I would have started doing EFT at the first signs of my calamity and stuck with my conventional holistic methods.  You live and learn.  Bruce, Be Well! Keep us posted on your healing progress.

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An MD found in a study that in the elderly, getting a flu shot 5 years in a row increases the chances of alzheimers by 1000%. Evidently something in there that accumulates in the brain.

10 (edited by Millenium 2007-10-31 08:46:40)

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This is off the flu thread but I had to pipe in about Alzheimers and flu shots. My mother and grand-mother never got a flu shot until after they were diagnosed with the disease.  On an interesting note there was a woman in my mom's facility who had not walked in five years.  Her family put her assisted living after being diagnosed with dementia.  She forgot she couldn't walk and has been out of the wheel-chair and has been walking without a walker for two years.  If you talk to 100 people whose parents have this bizarro disease you will hear a 100 different ways it manifests. It does not surprise me in the least that flu shots would exasperate the Alzheimer condition. If you want a Halloween horror story read about the end stages of this disease. No don't! Have a Happy Halloween! Bless the souls who have transcended the travails of earthly life and wish the ghoulie ones for whatever reason still hanging around in ghostly attire a merry adieu.
Great links Skyalmian. I wish I would have found that site before that nasty little boogie boo flu got a hold of me. Take care everyone.  Be Well.

Edit:  Just found these sites from the supertorch website regarding chemical spraying and
it's effects on our health, plus some great herbal health recipes. printable article
Originally published October 25 2007
Governor Schwarzenegger Backs Aerial Biochemical Spraying That Harms Children
by Rami Nagel printable article
Originally published October 4 2007
Traditional Herbal Blood Tonic Recipe Revealed by Medical Herbalist
by Leslee Dru Browning

(NewsTarget) Blood tonics today are used for cancer prevention; cancer treatment; liver health, viral and bacterial infections. In the days of old blood tonics were called Spring Tonics and farmers would religiously take them come Spring Time after a long sedentary winter to get their sluggish blood in shape for the upcoming season of farming. A custom that has been lost in today’s world. Why? And why aren’t blood tonics readily available for purchase from holistic healers or from health food stores? Could it be that pharmaceutical companies don’t want any competition from herbal and botanical medicines?

In Dr. Wright’s Newsletter dated September 17, 2007, he talked about Washington State's war on holistic M.D.s. Sad but true. Holistic healers are still being attacked in the USA that spouts that we are a Free Nation...except when it comes to health care, of course. The onslaught on alternative healers is brought about by Big Pharma, Big Business, the American Cancer Society, the AMA and our elected politicians who are bribed by lobbyists. They don’t want you healthy! Instead, they want the path cleared of anyone who can heal you so they can keep pushing their legal high-profit drugs. In today’s world where the propaganda mantra is “There is no cure”, holistic healers are being harassed, arrested and charged with “moral turpitude”, and put out of business simply because they can cure what ails you.

With the attacks on Natural Medicine it can be hard to find an Herbalist who can make up blood tonics for their cancer clients. Herbalists can be hard to locate, especially those who specialize in cancer treatments because they do not advertise since it is against the law in the USA for any health care practitioner to claim they can heal cancer; or any other illness for that matter, yet, it is not against the law to heal yourself. Therefore, why not learn to make your own? In this article I will give the recipe for the very first blood tonic I made.

Browning's Blended Spirits is a blood tonic I formulated years ago for an 80 year old man who had been diagnosed with Invasive Bladder Cancer that had spread to his lymph. During surgery it was found that his tumor had grown outside the wall of the bladder and the surgeon was unable to remove it all. He refused chemotherapy and radiation treatments and was given only 3-6 months to live. His family called me to see if I could help him. After hearing his case I couldn’t recommend herbal capsules because he had difficulty swallowing so I made him this blood tonic. Also included in his treatment was a Bladder and Kidney tonic along with diet changes.

His cancer was eliminated in 6 months and was verified by a cat scan his doctor did in the hospital. The doctors were mystified when they could not find any cancer in his body, yet they never asked what he did to eliminate his cancer. That alone suggested that his doctors not only didn’t care how he healed himself; but that his doctors weren’t the least bit curious about alternative medicine and how they might learn from his recovery. The gentleman is no longer living, but he did not die of cancer. He died of old age from natural causes. I continued to use this blood tonic recipe for several types of cancer and bacterial illnesses in my practice up until the day I retired.

About the Ingredients:

Browning’s Blended Spirits Blood Tonic contains a comprehensive blend of all-natural ingredients of herbs that are effective for blood purification and detoxification. The ingredients in this blend provide nutritive support to the body and are historically proven to provide both cleansing action and detoxification of the cells throughout the body including the lymph, lungs, liver, heart, colon and bloodstream. Many of the ingredients like burdock root, chaparral, poke root, red clover and yellow dock have been used for years to treat cancer.

What ingredients you will need make the tonic:

3oz each of the following dried herbs:

Anise seed (pimpinella anisum)

Blue violet (viola odorata)

Burdock root (arctium lappa)

Chaparral (larrea tridentate)

Dandelion root (taraxacum officinale),

Fennel (foeniculum vulgare),

Licorice root (glycyrrhiza glabra),

Oregon grape (mahonia aquifolium),

Poke root (phytolacca Americana),

Red clover (trifolium pretense)

Yellow dock root (rumex crispus).

40 oz of Honey or Black Strap Molasses, your choice.

16 oz of Vegetable glycerin.

4 Tablespoons of Citric acid which can be found in health food stores or from herb companies on-line.

5 gallons of distilled water

Purchase the whole herb (cut root and cut leaf) instead of the powdered herb if you can. The reason for this is two-fold. First, the powder absorbs more water leaving you with less liquid; second, the powder takes longer and is harder to strain. I purchase most of my dried herbs from Mountain Rose Herbs. Their herbs are processed and handled according to strict organic standards and they will sell individual herbs in a 4oz quantity so you will not have to purchase a full pound. I am sure there are many other herb company’s and health food stores that carry the herbs you will need. Just make sure they are organic.

What cooking tools you will need:

You will also need two stainless steel or glass 20 quart pots with lids.

A large strainer.

A candy or water thermometer.


For bottling you can use regular canning jars. If using pint jars you will need about 24 – 28 jars. If using quart jars you will need about 14 jars. This is a large recipe that will provide one year worth of tonics for the cancer patient, or, if using for a preventative go together with friends or family and share it.

How to make the tonic:

Making this tonic is like canning fruit from your garden. If you can cook you can make it. It takes a few days but is well worth it. You will not find this tonic on the market because it is time intense. The cost would be prohibitive to manufacture it, yet you can make it in your home for around $3.00 a pint. This tonic stores for up to a year if placed in a dark cool closet. They key to keeping tonics fresh is to prevent them from exposure to extreme temperature fluctuations. Don’t let them freeze and don’t let them sit in temperatures above 75*.

In one pot add:

Anise seed, burdock root, chaparral, dandelion root, fennel, licorice root, oregon grape root, poke root, yellow dock root and add 3 gallons of distilled water.

Cover with lid and set on stove on warm heat overnight so that the roots can be softened for extraction.

In the morning turn up the heat and bring the water to a low simmer for about 4 hours then bring to a boil for 15-30 minutes. After boiling turn off heat and strain the liquid into a clean container by laying a layer of cheesecloth over your strainer.

In another pot add:

Blue violet, red clover and add 1.5 gallons of distilled water. Set on counter and let soak in water over night.

In the morning place the pot on the stove on warm/medium heat to steep (not boil) the herbs like you would a cup of tea. Let them steep for at least 4 hours then strain the liquid by laying a layer of cheesecloth over your strainer.

Compost the strained herbs in your garden.

Mixing the pots:

Once the liquid is strained from both pots mix it together in one of the 20 quart pots and let it simmer for about 30 minutes.

Then add

16 oz of vegetable glycerin,

40 oz of honey (or black strap molasses for those allergic to honey)

4 heaping tablespoons of citric acid

Stir and let the mixture mingle for 15 minutes or so. When ready to bottle use a candy thermometer to check the temperature of the liquid. You want the temperature between 185* - 190* to prevent any bacteria to grow in the tonics. Maintain this heat temperature throughout bottling.

While waiting for your liquid to reach the accurate bottling temperature prepare your canning jars. Sterilize jars and lids.

Once your bottles are sterilized and your herbal liquid is at the right temperature add the tonic liquid to the hot jars. Fill to ½” from top of jar and cap. Let cool overnight. Check to make sure all the jars are sealed properly then store them.

Once you open a jar of tonic for use you must Refrigerate it. The tonic will last for a month in the refrigerator once it has been opened. Sediment in the bottom of the jars is normal. Give the jar a little shake or stir to mix the sediment before taking.

How much to take:

Adult Folklore Dosage: 2 Tablespoon 2 times a day for cancer, tumors, liver, viral and bacterial infections. In my practice I recommended that cancer patients take this tonic for at least a year and then drop to a maintenance dose of taking it once a day for another year. Some of my cancer patients continue to take it on and off throughout their life to keep their blood and lymph clear of toxins.

For cancer prevention use a bottle of this tonic every 3 months taking 1 Tablespoon 2 times a day.

Do not use if you are pregnant. Do not use if you are taking blood thinning agents like Warfarin (also known under the brand names of Coumadin, Jantoven, Marevan, and Waran).

Disclaimer—The information provided in this article is for informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for advice from your health care professional. You should not use the information in this article for self-diagnosis or to replace any prescriptive medication. You should consult with a healthcare professional before starting any diet, exercise or supplementation program, before taking any medication, or if you have or suspect you might have a health problem, suffer from allergies, are pregnant or nursing.

About the author
Leslee Dru Browning is a 6th generation Medical Herbalist & Nutritionist from the ancestral line of Patty Bartlett Sessions; Pioneer Mid-Wife & Herbalist. Leslee practiced Medical Herbalism and Nutritional Healing for over 25 years and specialized in Cancer Wellness along with Chronic Illness. She now devotes her career to teaching people, through her writing, about Natural Healing from An Herbal Perspective.


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An MD found in a study that in the elderly, getting a flu shot 5 years in a row increases the chances of alzheimers by 1000%. Evidently something in there that accumulates in the brain.

Fluoride plus Aluminum a deadly combination for the brain  = Alzheimers

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Same here in my state.. multiple rounds of antibotics with individuals not usually sick.. side infections of bronchitis and pneumonia. In some cases seem to develop from allergy issues un-addressed beginning this summer. Thank you for the herbal ideas..  And I thought we were just the only special ones...:P

In search of...

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Thanks guys. That's a lot of very useful information.

Four days ago I began taking Colloidal Silver, Chlorella and Oxygenated Capsules, and I am beginning to feel better. I think this stuff really works.

But this has been a bout of "flu" like I've never had before. Like Millenium said, mucous as in not just a runny nose, but thick and yellowy-green.

I live in South Africa and there are no chemtrails in our area. I can imagine they can produce this condition but I think the PWTB are also getting this into the population another way. Guys, this condition I'm going through has made me realize that our population is being poisoned. We are fodder for allopathic medicine and the pharmaceutical companies. Our immune systems are under attack.

The same courier guy I mentioned earlier said that he has had chicken pox twice! Once as a child and then when he was 31. Do you know what the doctor gave him second time round? Antiretroviral drugs they're using for aids! This guy doesn't know any better. He now thinks Avian Bird Flu capsules and Antiretrovirals are the greatest.

What a world.

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Hello! My daughter, who is 10 yrs. old, has had a sore throat, with white patches off and on for a while now. She was tested for strept throat, but the results came back negative. I was told it was 'viral'. What can I give her that will be safe for her? I was wondering also if this could be related to her spirit/aura? You know what I mean? Like I've read about some physical ailments due to spirit attachments, or if she is having a problem communicating about something that it will suffice in her health. How would one know the difference in this? Am I making any sense? lol. Thanks!