google wrote:Hello nexus.
I'm glad you addressed my question.
I was feeling a llittle disappointed when I thought you were bypassing it.
That question wouldn't let me go. I wanted to talk about it but i got waylaid a bit.
google wrote:I may respond to your indepth response in sections.
nexus wrote:It has been written and taught in the east that we are indestructable and immortal .... having no beginning and no end. This refers to the Spirit. We are one with spirit at the level of christ/boddhi and beyond that in higher levels of causality and the I AM Presence. But the level of self which is incarnate in the 4 lower bodies is the soul. The soul is a portion of the higher- Self projected into the material planes to gain experience and to express divine ideas into form. The soul is not immortal …..
google wrote:Would I not still be in possession of the higher Self, could my consciousness still inhabit my Christ consciousness, if my soul dies ?
Right now, we each are a 7 dimentional being. By freewill we must become conscious of that reality. By Freewill the soul must prove it through the law of love. The I AM Presence is God individualised. Spiritual individuality is the gift of life to each of us at the level of Spirit. The I AM is a replica of the One Spirit and is immortal. The soul is again a representation of the I AM Presence in matter, beautifully formed and connected to the I AM through the chakra system and all the lower bodies. The soul is that portion of selfhood which the I AM Presence is willing to "lose". By creating the soul and bestowing freewill on the soul, the I AM Presence has taken a risk. But it could be no other way. Without the gift of freewill we would merely be possesions of the I AM Presence, not children ...... children who, by making wise decisions, can mature into the fullness of being.... Firstly by accepting the inner I AM Presence as the guide on the journey through matter..... then through permanent conscious union in the ascension.
So, if the soul fails to fulfill the incarnational opportunity then it is not going to be aware of it's higher connection with Christ, and the I AM Presence. While those higher Levels of consciousness are Self Conscious and active, alas, the lost soul is not aware of that. Having severed itself from the flow of love from inner levels, the soul is totally ignorant of the greater Self. If the distorted identity of the lost soul is eventually cancelled in the final judgement, then the higher levels of spiritual being are still Self Conscious yes. But if the soul was not conscious of those higher levels before that judgement then the opportunity for Divine Self awareness (at all levels) is lost when the soul is cancelled.
The reason for that is simple. Our own soul is not in possesion of the Higher- Self as you put it. The Higher- Self is in possesion of the soul. That is quite a difference. The Higher- Self created the soul for a purpose. To fulfill that purpose the soul was given freewill and a source of inexhaustable energy to express within the law of love. Withn the law of love, infinite opportunities are open for creative expansion of consciousness. To defy the law is a path to contraction and oblivion, which means the eventual cancellation of soul- self awareness. It is finished. But it is not finished for the Higher- Self. The Higher-Self is still conscious, intelligent, loving, wise, powerful and able to create a new soul from the recycled energy that was you. As you would know, energy is never destroyed. It is only transmuted into a new form. If the soul had have exersised it's freewill to transmute itself and all karmic energies then the ascension would have been a new birth for that soul. (All the memory of all it's experiences and all the well qualified energies would have been the net gain of the whole experience.) But all that is lost to the soul that rebels against love's law to the end.
The Higher Self is patient. Again the Spiritual- Self takes the recycled energy (that was once the soul but is 'now' transmuted elemental energy) and again projects it into materiality. The Spiritual- Self watches over the evolutionary development of that elemental energy (elemental consciousness) through the lower kingdoms until eventually, again, the Spiritual- Self bestows individual soul awareness ---- connected with Divine Reason----- upon a human form. The connection of numinous is established and the soul is on the final evolutionary stretch to union (with the spiritual- Self) through the ascension.
google wrote:I realise in different realms that the notion of "I" may be non existant because we may realise our Oneness and meld into the group, so the notion of "I" could be fake.
Perhaps when this current soul, in this case called 'google' on Planet Earth at this 'time' 'dies' in the manner in which you outlined, my Higher Self will project into another soul.
Kind of like air trying to fill balloons and when one balloon springs an irreparable leak the air makes its way into another balloon.
The notion of "I" is not fake. But the "I" (of soul) must first become the "eye" (of Christ) if there is to be any hope of immortal individual Selfhood( for the soul) at the level of the I AM Presence. The capstone (the "eye") on the pyramid is missing because the builders knew that the soul is not complete without the conscious realisation of the inner- Christ. They knew that Spiritual- Selfhood had not yet been consciously realised by the soul incarnate in the 4 lower bodies...(which are represented by the 4 sides of the pyramid). The capstone is the Christ Consciousness. That is why the capstone is missing at the apex of the pyramid.... because Christ Consciousness (the mediator between Spirit and matter) is missing in the awareness of humanity. The Christ Consciousness is largely dormant in the human race. Only through attunement with (the divine vision of) the Christ- Self, can the soul come into alignment with the plumbline of divine Will, and rise in consciousness--- from the base of the pyramid--- to the capstone --- the vibrational apex of Christ Consciousness. Only then will Spirit and matter be ONE--- consciously--- in individual man and woman. The soul's individuality in Christ is then immortalised in the ascension to the individual I AM Presence.
"No man goeth unto the Father except by me"
google wrote:What else would this portion of Me do until all the other kids are finished playing ?
Good question. We can know what the Christ- Self does in matter by attuning with it in our soul. But as to all IT'S activities in Spiritual planes? We will first have to vibrationally unite with the Christ- Self and then ascend into the I AM Presence to find out.
"But as it is written
eye hath not seen nor ear heard- (with the physical senses)
neither hath entered into the heart of man- (the activities of the I AM Presence in spirit are not yet revealed)
the things- (the activities and realms)
which God- (I AM) hath prepared for them that love him"- (that love the inner- Christ in ALL)
google wrote:Who experiences this higher-Self ?
The Higher- Self experiences the Higher- Self. And the soul can experience it too by obedience to the Higher Will and communion/vibrational resonance with it.
qoogle wrote:In this obsured yet possible scenario, I could understand why some people feel that "nothing matters and what if it did ?".
The soul memory is largely obscured from the outer mind. If it were to be opened and revealed we would see the cause and effect of all our experiences in matter. We would see the consequences of action and inaction. We would see the seed sown and the fruit eaten.... both bitter and sweet. We would realise of what great consequence are our own lives, even though we sometimes feel insignificant. The Will of Christ is a force of potent grandeur and it is within us. In order to maintain a continuity of consciousness (without losing the soul) it is very important to consciously become Christ. Then, nothing will "matter" because we will prove the supremacy of Spirit over "matter" in all "matters".
I believe that the only sense in which "nothing matters" is in our own attitude to fortune and misfortune. We can master the lower energies within ourselves by developing the attitude of "non- reaction" (in the lower-self). This can only be achieved by progressive attunement with the inner- Christ. Then, this "non reaction" develops into "divine indifference". This does not mean that we become spiritually/emotionally paralysed. It means that through spiritual attunement, we can learn to govern the reactions (that spring from the lower mental and astral bodies) to all life's interactions. We can learn to "allow" the spirit to move/act in all situations. Our development of this divine art is the path to ascension.
As Paul wrote : "I" - (the lower karmic self) must decrease - (by transmuting the karmic energies)
and He - ( the inner- Christ) must increase - (in my soul and 4 lower- bodies)
google wrote:And yet there is this beautiful Divine presence that overcomes us at times that spurs us on and it becomes obvious that loving is reason enough to exist.
The obsuredity disappears and it is God re-discovering the grandure of Unconditional Love, in me.
Maybe God is blown away by the grandure of Love and wants to rediscover it over and over in us, which is actually Him.
God (the I AM Presence) wants our soul home in the loving embrace of perfect union. That union will never end.
quote wrote:I've had this thought many times.
Is God the very definition of loneliness ?
Not now that God has your love and you have God's.
In that love, we are not scrambling for the exits as montalk put it. We seek the divine Will and walk in it wherever it leads.