Freemasonry is not evil (Page 1 of 5)

I don't know how it is elsewhere, but I read recently that the Freemasons in Australia are having a bit of a panic because the younger generation couldn't give two hoots about joining a semi-secretive boys club to the point where they were advertising etc.

Though emphasis varies from lodge to lodge, I suspect (I don't know, I am not and never will be a Mason) most lodges these days have dropped the esoteric element and they have become more of a social club for businessmen. But then that is enough I guess for favouristism etc. Another problem of being associated with a group of people is that an individual tends to be judged on the actions of the group (not all members of the group would have the same stance on issues) and also the group is judged on the actions of an individual (a bad apple).

Is Freemansonry evil? I'm not sure. Does it provide opportunities for those inside the club? Absolutely. Which is no different than if I attended the local church or having 10 zillion myspace friends or even this board. It's about networking and who you know. But the Freemasons have an agenda right? So does this board...it's about alternative information etc etc etc. I'm not for the Freemasons but if you want to run around in an apron and make a cube out of a piece of rock then that's fine with me. My dad used to tell me when you reached 33 degree (or whatever) that you find out you've been worshipping the devil ALL THIS TIME!!! Argghhhhhh! Oh Noes! I'm sorry but it's IMPOSSIBLE to do that. Worship is about energy and intent. It's like telling a Hari Krishna all these years he's really been worshipping a teapot.

Actually I take that back. Freemanonry is not evil. No organisation is evil. Only individuals within an organisation. And within any organisation there's a whole spectrum of personalities and moralities.

The more you learn about freemasonry, the more you view might flipflop on it. The mainstream person thinks it's just a men's club. Then if you get into conspiracy literature, you paranoidly perceive it as the ultimately source of evil in this world. Then when you read up on what it stands for, like say the Manly P. Hall books, you realize it is actually an esoteric charitable organization dedicated to the upliftment of mankind. Then when you learn about occult jurisprudence, how the matrix infiltrates and subverts nodes of power and influence, and have some personal experience with freemasonry, it will then dawn on you that what started with good intentions has been taken over by both physical and nonphysical negative forces with vested interests in gaining soul-level control over initiates. If you don't believe me on that last point, then good luck finding out the hard way.

while in Europe. Freemasonry has been somewhat elitist, quite the opposite is true in America ...  Freemasonry does not recruit and is open to anyone whom asks, except atheists ...  you don't have to be well-to-do and usually the opposite is the norm ...

I am a thirty second degree mason, and I am from a blue lodge that is over a century old and has many well known thirty third degree masons among the membership ...  the blue lodges are the core of the organization that form the first three degrees, a Master Mason is a third degree mason, and usually meet twice monthly in the small buildings you may see around town ...  the higher degrees are conferred at reunions that happen twice a year and take the form of biblical plays that are preformed for members only, and many of which are exceptionally boring ...  imagine getting there around 7:30 AM and spending eight hours watching various blue lodges from around the area performing the plays, it can be quite a long day ...   nobody does the degrees in order, so once you have seen the thirty second degree you are a thirty second degree mason ...  different jurisdictions perform different degrees, and some of them have been modernized, there is one that takes place during world war 2 ...  personally I find them really boring and I am a little young for that crowd so I usually only show up to blue lodge when I have time ...

the principals of Freemasonry are quite good however and I do believe that it is the origin of both the common law and trial by jury, however there is no real evidence of this ...  what Freemasonry really is at it's core is an ancient hazing ritual designed to keep men from fighting over women, hence no women are allowed in the lodge because men act differently when women are around ...  also, historically lodges were places where members of different religions could come together and discuss things in private without worrying that what they said would be repeated ...  Freemasonry is the reason why the founding fathers fought to protect all religions of all cultures ...  Freemasonry leaves no name and seeks no reward, the northern jurisdiction gives over a million dollars a day to various charities and does not publicize these efforts ...

so have you any personal knowledge of this or are you just repeating what you heard on the internet?  of course you wouldn't mind seeing all Freemasons rounded up for guilt by association without any evidence of crimes just like Hitler or Saddam Hussein did ...  your apathy and willingness to denounce others without any evidence is much more evil than what you claim about Freemasonry ...  if any Freemason touched a child in the wrong way they would not be looked upon kindly by Freemasonry ... 

while the rumor is that Freemasons receive preferential treatment by the criminal justice system, again the opposite is quite true ...  if you are pulled over by a Freemason cop and you try to pimp Freemasonry to get preferential treatment, expect the cop to write the ticket immediately ...  if you are accused of something more serious and get a Freemason judge, expect to have the book thrown at you ...  Freemasons pride themselves on their integrity, and will zealously defend it against the bad apples that bring disrepute upon the fraternity ...

there are no real secrets in Freemasonry as the secrets are the handshakes, secret knocks and passwords and whatnot that identify members of the various degrees ...  Freemasonry is not particularly powerful in this day and age ... particularly during the revolutionary war, many people of the time were Master Masons and hence Freemasonry was part of the foundation of America ...  today, it's not as lucrative a networking organization as the rotary club ...

hp lovecraft wrote in a story about how the old Freemasons hall was taken over by the followers of Dagon ...  your point about how Freemasonry may no longer be exclusively a fortress of good but a battleground of good and evil is true of every organization on the planet today ...

I initially joined Freemasonry with mixed opinions as my catholic family is very prejudiced against Freemasonry, however I have always been a very big history buff and was intrigued that all of the revolutionary war veterans were Freemasons ...  I have been a Master Mason for eight years, and still remain quite the iconoclast ...  Freemasonry is all about the hard way, yet has only helped my soul by providing a moral compass with which to circumscribe my actions ...

A 32nd degree mason still dwells in the land of the profane my friend. To become a 33rd or beyond you must be a second or third generation mason preferably with an Eastern Star spouse or have celebrity status. Until you've reached 33rd degree you'll know nothing of the inner workings and ancient origins of the group. They operate under a cloak of charity and always have. Unfortunately sub 33rd degrees means you're a dues paying worker bee who will never see your queen. And the reason they don't want atheists is they figure if you've fallen for one soul binding lie you're fully prepared for another. I do know that 98% of masons are well meaning and feel they contribute greatly to their communities, unfortunately it's a subset duping.