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Topic: Orfeo Angelucci - STO Contactee?

Orfeo Angelucci was a contactee who published his accounts in the early 1950s. I read about him in the last part of Carl Jung's book on flying saucers where Jung excerpted part of Angelucci's story. From that excerpt I noticed key elements typical of encounters with 4D STO beings. The following is excerpted from an abridged copy of his book at http://www.galactic.no/rune/orfeo2.html

Time is a dimension as your scientists now correctly surmise. But it is only a dimension when applied to the various densities of matter. In the absolute, or non-material states of consciousness, Time is non-existent. So let us say that in one of the time frames or dimensions, there was once a planet in the solar system of Earth, called Lucifer. It was of the least material density of any of the planets. Its orbit lay between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. Among the etheric beings, or heavenly hosts, it was called the Morning Star. Among all planets it was the most radiant planet in the universe.

The name of the prince of this shining planet was also Lucifer, a beloved Son of God. [...] Earth's legends about Lucifer and his hosts are true. Pride and arrogance grew in the heart of Lucifer and in the hearts of many Luciferians. They discovered all of the secrets of matter and also the great secret of the Creative Word. Eventually they sought to turn this omnipotent force against their brothers who were less selfish. Also against the etheric beings and the Father, or Source, for it became their desire to rule the universe. You know the rest of the legend: how Lucifer and his followers were cast down from their high estate. In simpler words, the Luciferians who were embodied then in the most attenuated manifestation of matter "fell" into embodiments in one of the most dense material evolutions, which is the animalistic evolution of Earth.

We were among those who did not join the Luciferians in their revolt against the etheric hosts [...] Thus although the Luciferians shattered our radiant planet in the holocaust of their war, we entered the etheric, non-material worlds in the higher octaves of light as liberated Sons of God, while the Luciferian hosts fell into the dream of mind in matter upon the dark planet of sorrows."

While our brothers are lost in the hell of unreality and turn their blinded, imploring eyes to the mute heavens, we can never forget them. We intercede unceasingly for your peoples' liberation. Thus today every bondsman upon Earth has within himself the power through the mystery of the Etheric Christ Spirit to cancel his captivity.

Eventually all of mankind deep-drowned in Time and Matter, will surface to reality when they recognize their basic unity of being. When man is for man honestly and sincerely and not selfishly arrayed against himself, the hour of deliverance from the underworld will be close at hand. We wait now beyond the great, sad river of Time and Sorrows with open arms and hearts to receive among us our lost and prodigal brothers in that great day when they rejoin us as liberated Sons of God.

Our disks, or saucers as Earthmen term them, are in your space-time frame as harbingers of mankind's coming resurrection from the living death. Although our disks are essentially etheric; that is, non-material, they are controlled in such a way that they can almost instantaneously attract substance to take on any degree of material density necessary. Various other types of space craft are now permitted to visit Earth for certain purposes. These are from other worlds and also space islands of various densities of matter. Some are on the borderline between materiality and non-materiality. But all are operated by intelligences highly spiritual in nature. All are on a mission of love to their brothers of the Dark World, but mankind's understanding of their ultimate intent and purpose will only become fully apparent further along in Earth's Time Dimension. We do not say that there are no negatives in the universe who have not attained primitive modes of space travel, but at present Earth is fully protected from these by both cosmic law and the etheric host.

The only part I question is their saying earth is fully protected from negative beings. Although the Ra Material talks about how earth is under a quarantine that prevents mass freewill violations despite this quarantine failing pseudo-randomly to allow negative forces to stir things up as a matter of potential spiritual catalyst. That would explain why the negs are so cunning and patiently manipulative towards getting us to give up our freewill, as though following some cosmic law. Also, the C's warned that 4D STO, being isolated in their own realm and thus being limited in their contact with and knowledge of 4D STS, are a bit naive when it comes to that subject, so I wouldn't overestimate their knowledge of what types of neg aliens are operative here. That much came out in the Allies of Humanity material as well.

I couldn't help but notice the mention of a former planet between Mars and Jupiter, which in the Cass material was referred to as Kantek, from which the nordic races on earth came as part of an Alternative-3-like evacuation from the planet they destroyed through war. Supposedly the grand TDARM (aka Ark of Covenant / Holy Grail) was built there by STO beings and transported to earth, which meshes with what Wolfram von Eschenbach said  in Parzival of the Grail being a magical stone brought to earth  for safekeeping by angels who stayed neutral during the war in heaven (Luciferic Rebellion). What stuck out for me most was the idea that many of us could be the fallen ones, trapped in this maelstrom of spacetime. It goes back to the War in Heaven thread discussions about being trapped here, that something is wrong, etc...

Personally I believe we are existing in a tangent universe that arose from a cataclysmic hyper-dimensional error brought on by misuse of the TDARM, and that like in Donnie Darko the universe is attempting to rebalance itself and redeem that error through a synchronistic shaping of history towards some destined singularity-exit from this forsaken timeloop that restores balance and brings back the Golden Age, the one that existed before the cataclysm. Maybe I'll do an article on this and provide all the backup that I don't have time to mention here.

Anyway, that link http://www.galactic.no/rune/orfeo2.html is an interesting read for anyone into this contactee / STO / hyper-D-history stuff.

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Re: Orfeo Angelucci - STO Contactee?

Montalk,

I read your post aloud and I swear to you it felt like I was being watched scared the crap out of me. I think you might be on to something. Geeze.

3 (edited by SiriArc 2007-02-17 01:37:23)

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For Emphasis:

MOnTalk Notes:

Eventually all of mankind deep-drowned in Time and Matter, will surface to reality when they recognize their basic unity of being.

We wait now beyond the great, sad river of Time and Sorrows with open arms and hearts to receive among us our lost and prodigal brothers in that great day when they rejoin us as liberated Sons of God.

MOnTalk Wrote:

What stuck out for me most was the idea that many of us could be the fallen ones, trapped in this maelstrom of spacetime.

Personally I believe we are existing in a tangent universe that arose from a cataclysmic hyper-dimensional error brought on by misuse of the TDARM, and that like in Donnie Darko the universe is attempting to rebalance itself and redeem that error through a synchronistic shaping of history towards some destined singularity-exit from this forsaken timeloop that restores balance and brings back the Golden Age, the one that existed before the cataclysm.

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Just to throw another name into the Mix:

‘86: Got a report from two friends about some info. they received the previous night during some meditative work:

That the Asteroid Belt was a destroyed planet called, ‘Mandrexla’ and that a previous ’Self’ was Intimately Connected from Start to Finish.......


Early ‘90s:

On one of The Deep Journeys Of Discovery:

Moving from a ‘daily level of experience’ >>>>>>> {In-To} Other, YOU pass through a ‘Buffer Zone’ or what Mckenna referred to as, ‘The Chrysanthemum’.......

Via the Intensity, there is no ‘usual’ to this early Phase, but after a few Experiences, a general sense develops:
Physical sensations, moving through ‘the carnival’, etc.


But, On This Day, the physical sensations had just started, when

Suddenly:

Immersed In A Vortex Of Insanity

In the ’air’

Totally surrounded by screaming vicious lunatics

Spiraling deeper

Memory of ‘self’, in a room, in a pyramid, on a Journey

Fading.......



Years later, saw, ‘What Dreams May Come’:

The scene in the boat

surrounded by insane ‘people’

in route to the nightmares destination.......



But

Refresh On The Premise Noted Here:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2139

EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING is GOING TO MAKE IT - It's DESTINY - The CHOICE AND DECISION was Exercised ‘Long Ago‘.......

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Thank you for posting this, Montalk.   Some of my experiences make more sense in light of reading this.  For example, the man who materialized in my room to years ago.... and whom I have seen on a starship.  He was wearing a closely fitting uniform, as described here.  And he felt the same, for lack of a better word.  Too bad  I don't recall any of his words, except for the date, March 6th, followed by a year I don't remember.  It's been 10 years since the "dream" I had where he spoke that date, and every March 6th, I wait to see if anything significant happens.   And it never does.

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Finished reading it.  I agree that the info about there not being negative aliens in our sphere is untrue.  However-- these experiences happened in the 50's.  Perhaps that info is out of date?  They merely said that "at this time" the Earth is protected.  They didn't say how long that would last.

I could have done without the Christian overtones toward the end.  Also, the ending seems a bit abrupt.  Is this the full book?

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I don't think that's the full book. And I don't know how much of what he wrote was recalled incorrectly, embellished, or just plain made up. Not to mention, how much this book may have influenced the Ra and Cassiopaean channelings if the latter are also fabricated, even if only subconsciously.

George Andrews made the point that none of the contactees of the 40s/50s ever mentioned the Grays, which today saturate reports of alien encounters. I know someone who in those decades also had STO alien encounters in a way that meshes with Angelucci's accounts. Perhaps the STO types were more active back then as far as interacting with people goes. Andrews also suggested that the positive aliens offered non-military assistance to the US government but were passed over for the Grays instead who were willing to give military technology in exchange for being allowed to abduct humans freely, that this happened in the mid 50s. So who knows, maybe that explains the proliferation of Gray contacts and the diminishing of genuinely positive ones. I can't remember if it was Alex Collier, Phil Schneider, or both who said that the positive alien groups have picked up and left since that time. Something's definitely changed. Maybe it was atomic bomb testing, occult rituals a la Jack Parsons and his gang, contracts with the Grays/Reps, etc...

Couple years ago I had some intensely revelatory dreams. They are ones that feel like being psychically held in the tractor beam of some higher positive power who is beaming wisdom, remembrance, and understanding into your head. When I read some of Angelucci's experiences in the Carl Jung book, I recognized the similarity and that's what made me look into him some more.

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If you look at movies and even cartoons, from the 40's and 50's, "aliens" were portrayed as little green men from mars, or like "Marvin the Martian" from the Warner Bros. cartoons. Or if you look at the sci-fi movies of the day, it was always martians in space suits or some weird looking creature.  Hmmmmm... seems to me back then, they were always portraying them as bad, scary beings, at least in the media.

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Alright, here are the two main books by Orfeo Angelucci - in full:

          [size=16]Secret of the Saucers (1956) - PDF | TXT[/size]

          [size=16]Son of the Sun (1959) - PDF | TXT[/size]

The link I posted earlier in the thread was only an abridged version of the first book.   

Not sure if these are factual. My guess is they have a factual basis, that Orfeo really did have encounters with 4D STO beings, but that in writing the story he embellished parts with his own fantasies, philosophies, and pet theories. It's also worth keeping in mind that as the Ra Material commented, higher density STO interact with a person in a way that most comfortably fits their expectations while still passing on what matters: the illumination that follows from the experience. So the trivial details of benevolent alien culture may not be true to actual form, but the lessons imparted are. You can tell by how much it makes sense and strikes a chord in you.

Definitely check out Son of the Sun also... it is a very unusual book in that even if it were fiction, it is still profoundly enlightening. For me it has a deep and meaningful story, and is crammed with Law-of-One philosophies that elevate you to a higher perspective on life and existence. It was published by DeVorss and they put out some of the best spiritual books.

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belljar wrote:

Montalk,

I read your post aloud and I swear to you it felt like I was being watched scared the crap out of me. I think you might be on to something. Geeze.

This might be off topic, but I have to say somethig about that. I started checking into all this material about five years ago on the net. Same thing; felt like I was watched so badly I couldn't sleep for a LONG time. The more information I found that resonated with ideas I had always entertained only in my mind, the more I would have these frequent attacks of fear. Then they started coming around in my dreams. Then manifesting right there before my eyes.
   So I entertain the idea that the more knowledge I gather and ponder, the closer I get to what is REALLY going on.
   Don't let that scare you too much, Belljar, as with this fear comes a more finley tuned awareness to the nuts and bolts of this game.
   So far, it's been a hell of a ride....

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Oh I agree GreyCat sometimes when you're doing your research and working out the different ideas you can really feel yourself being watched. Like all sides are going oh have they got it yet? tongue

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montalk wrote:

Alright, here are the two main books by Orfeo Angelucci - in full:

          [size=16]Secret of the Saucers (1956) - PDF | TXT[/size]

Thank you!

The PDF version of Secret of the Saucers (1956) is not there, but the TXT.

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Okay it's fixed.  The letter "o" in "of" in the URL was not capitalized, but it is now.

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