Re: George Washington
mandalis wrote:since this thread is really about George Washington
Interesting, you make it seem like it was somebody else that took this thread waaaaaaaaaay off track. Yet you took the liberty from 1 little sentence to lead into a great diatribe that took this thread on this rabbit trail.
when i made the comment it was in context and relevant to the dark ages dogma that Washington et all was trying to keep us from ...
mandalis wrote:get out of the dark ages!
Who's in the dark ages?
mandalis wrote:when those pesky monotheist Jews that wouldn't pray to the Roman god (that was also based on the Egyptian mythology) destroyed the intellectual foundation of hierarchical Roman society with their monotheism ...
Seriously dude! The Jews caused the fall of the almighty Roman empire?
yes, this is why it had to be reinvented around the Hebrew God as the Holy Roman Empire ... after the concept of monotheism hit the Mediterranean civilization they lost heart for their pagan multi-theistic pantheon ... it happened in 300 AD, read about Constantine, last Roman emperor and first Holy Roman pope!
mandalis wrote:Jesus was ....plagiarized from Egyptology
I thought Jesus was more closely linked to being a plagiarized form of Mithraism. What's funny is that Christianity has also "plagiarized" a lot of Taoism, Buddhism and Toltec teachings. Weird.
many ancient religions featured a 'redeemer figure' symbolic of spring ... an excellent exposition of this thesis can be found in the Corporation for Public Broadcasting Annenberg Project series called 'The Western Tradition' ... they do a great job of comparing much archaeological artwork with Christian symbols ... Mithraism and Zoroastrianism, however Egyptology was the other major influence ... read about Horus, the child god, which symbolizes sunrise on the horizon ..
here is another interesting link to some of the same information http://www.freedomdomain.com/relig.htm ... and Christianity has nothing to do with Buddhism or Taoism despite what you read that want you to believe encompasses everything ...
It is refreshing to see mandalis, that your personal development is at such a high level that you can allow people to believe in something you so obviously don't and not return the hatred, angst and intolerance they seem to live by.
it would be like a teacher hating a student that cannot master a lesson ... unlike most Christians, I respect compassion because my belief system does not require denouncing everyone else ...
mandalis wrote:you misspelled consciousness because you are asleep ...
or is it because he became fascinated by watching you on your verbal hamster wheel?
i was referring to some of the montalk material about living with the mind asleep ... John Carpenter's THEY LIVE! also discusses this point ... if I can help one person wake up from the dark ages the time is well spent ... here in another link on how religions induce an alpha wave sleep state for brainwashing ... http://www.freedomdomain.com/mindcontro … attle.html
mandalis wrote:the ego and consciousness are one in the same, the individual ...
Well your ego is wounded that is painfully obvious, that by your definition means your consciousness is wounded too. I ask forgiveness on behalf of everybody that has wounded you that you identify as being Christian.
why would you think either my ego or consciousness is wounded? i am actually quite egotistical, hence i can go around telling brainwashed religious fanatics that everything they know is wrong and to get out of the dark ages ... intolerant religious fanatics have caused much damage to the world, just look at the mess the world's religious fanatics have created lately ... right now there are kids all over the middle east killing each other over nothing more than 'faith' ... the idea that 'Jesus is the way' or that salvation only comes through the blood of the lamb is really implying that everyone else is less worthy and going to hell for not kowtowing to your Jesus ...
mandalis wrote:you are your higher self
The "Godspark" people talk about being in them I don't believe as just being your higher self, but your highest self. Your higher self may be 4th, 5th, 6th D etc can be achieved by you and your own ability. Where as it is your highEST self that is united with God/ the infinite consciousness/ the cosmic awareness, what have you. That I can become better is not that hard to believe. That I can become perfect? Well now that is something hard to believe and will take faith and perseverence to achieve.
your higher/highest self is you in the future beyond the illusion of mortality ... this entire world/dimension is designed to get you to believe in the illusion of mortality .... if your soul was not immortal, you could actually get away with causing suffering and not have to repay your debts ...
mandalis wrote:and will suffer for your/it's own sins ...
Hmmm you believe in the "masochistic god of the old testament"?
actually, having the chance to repay your karmic debts is very benevolent ... if you weren't given the opportunity to suffer for your sins then that would be truly sadistic ... (you meant sadistic and not masochistic right?)
mandalis wrote:you have no inner spirituality ......your introverted spirituality is a way of burying your head in the sand
What even if a person has an inner spirituality if it doesn't fit your mold it is wrong/ fake a way of burying your head?
You certainly make a lot of assumptions about nexus' and anybody that professes to be christian as being what bush is and siding with the wholesale slaughter...dude nothing could be farther from the truth! you seriously need to step back and let people be people. see the individual for who they are.
the same belief's in Jesus/Mohamed are being used by Americans/Muslims to kill each other ... believing in such idolatry is sinful in that it provides justification for the destruction of those who do not share the beliefs ... true spirituality is beyond this world and the history of this world ... believing in false sun god idolatry is exactly the cause of the problem ... i am not the one with a mold that needs to be fit into ... the historical origins of Christianity are very clear and verifiable, look at the zodiac, look at the history of Osiris, Isis, Set and Horus ... propaganda like the divinci code has been contrived to provide a modern basis for the Jesus myth instead of admitting the truth about sun worship ...
As for your Zodiac time line, He was a lamb slain, not a lion. easter is in the spring not winter - mind you maybe the legalistic/ traditional Jews did move the passover which which had been established for centuries just to help show Christianity is false.
in the bible, his ministry concluded as the Lion of Judah ... the historical reasons behind the selections of the various dates is very complicated, however know that the moment of the resurrection is December 25, when the sun has passed through the Winter solstice and starts redeeming life with spring ... the resurrection takes awhile astronomically until March 21 when the north celestial pole meets the celestial equator on the Vernal equinox, or spring ... keep in mind that it is a cycle that repeats so the sun/son is born of a virgo/virgin to die and be reborn ... check out the link on easter again http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/easter.htm ... there are some illustrations that help explain it ... also, the word easter is actually from Esther or Eastarte, the Greek fertility sex goddess that was symbolized by a bunny ... the date in spring was chosen to represent the rebirth in order to coincide with an ancient pagan fertility holiday dedicated to the sex bunny Eastarte ... much of the greek mythology also corresponds with Christianity, the original new testament was in Greek ... look at this section from http://www.freedomdomain.com/relig.htm
With enough Knowledge out there, eventually people will return back to a state of self-interpretation of spirituality instead of being told what God wants or has said. The ancient people held a set of belief systems which were very primitive as far as simplicity but they were extremely knowledgeable in their understanding.
It doesn't matter what religion you are today, there is a common underlying source of ideas and these ideas are what have come down through history. Therefore all religions have certain things in common and have all borrowed their current ideas and doctrines from older religions. This can be seen by looking at
the COMMON SYMBOLISM.
First of all, in ancient times, there were certain things which obviously mystified the early people and the were certain apparent features of the landscape
which were difficult to ignore.
1. The Sun : A little difficult to ignore, don't you think. If the sun, which is the source of all life fails to come up the next morning the ancient people would not have lived long and they knew this. The Sun invigorates you with it's energy and causes the crops to grow. The Sun gives up it's life force to provide us with warmth and food and many other things. So it could be said that the Sun of God gives it's life up for US and it is the TRUE SAVIOR for it has risen-"Risen Savior"
When the ancient people would track the Sun on the "Sun dial", as it still does today, the Sun traveles South until the Winter Solstice when it cold and harsh, representing death and the Sun would stop "ON THE SUN DIAL FOR THREE DAYS and on December 25th, the Sun would be said "To be BORN AGAIN" on the CROSS OF THE ZODIAC" after having died for three days. This is when the Sun begins it's annual journey back to the Northern Hemisphere.
The Ancient calender also started at a different time. It began in Virgo and ended in leo, that is why the Sphynx has the head of a Virgin and the Body of a Lion. When the Sun of God was re-born, it was in the Constellation of Virgo, so it was said "Born of a Virgin". The Sun is the "Eye of God" or "Eye of Horus". Ra was the Sun God in Egypt. His full name was Amen Ra. That is why we say "A-men" after our prayers. The Egyptians knew this and all of the Egyptian beliefs and customs are built into our society secretly by the Freemasons. Both symbols below are the Sun.
The Origin of the Trinity, the father, the sun, and the holy spirit. Horus comes up at the "Hor-izon". He is born, this is the beginning, 12:00 he is the "Most High", and then the Sun "Sets", hence "Set" or "Satan", the prince of darkness does battle with the light of the world and wins, until the Sun is re-born the next day. This is a representation of the evolution of life. The birth, or the beginning, mid-life starting in your teen years, and old age, leading to death, the end of life. This is also symbolized in other religions going very far back. In India, there is Brahma, the Father, Vishnu, the Son, and Shiva.
In Malachai 4:2 of the Old Testament, it states "But unto you, fear my name, shall the Sun of rightiousness arise with healing in his wings." Look at the above symbol from egypt of the Sun and his wings. Jesus was supposed to have 12 apostles. These were the 12 Houses of the Zodiac.
In the book of Job Chapter 38:33 "Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? 38:31 "Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Plei-a-des or loose the bands of Orion?" 38:32 "Canst thou bring forth Mazz-a-roth in his season? or canst thou guide Arc-tu-rus with his sons?" This is all in reference to the zodiac and astrology. The definition of Mazzaroth in the King James Version of the bible is "The twelve houses of the zodiac".
Jesus is said to have fed his people with two fishes and five loaves. The two fishes represent "Pisces" and the age of Pisces or that particular House of the Zodiac. That is why Jesus is referred to as the "great fisherman". It is also why the Pope's headdress is shaped like a fish. If you turn it sideways you will see this. Rome ruled the world for 2000 years under the age of Pisces. "Dogon" is the fish God, which is what is actually represented. The New Testament is Astrology.
In Matthew 28:20 it states "Surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age". What is being talked about is the "End of the Age", the age of "Pisces". The
end of the "Age" is often mistaken for the "end of the world", creating the "Apocalypse fears". Joshua was called the Son of Nun, which in Hebrew means "fish". The new "Age of Aquarius" is coming. The symbol for the age of Aquarius is the "Water-bearer", or the man with a water pitcher.
In Luke 22:10, when jesus is asked by his 12 apostles where he will go to settle his new kingdom, he responds, "Behold, when ye arew entered into the city, here shall a man meet you bearing a pitcher of water, follow him into the house where he entereth in." This is the "House of Aquarius".
In Matthew 12:32, "The holy spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come." In Matthew 13:39, "The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels". 13:40 "As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age". In Matthew 24:3 "and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" and from Luke 18:30 "the kingdom of God will fail to recieve many times as nmuch in this age and, in the age to come, eternal life." First Corinthians 3:6, "We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age who are coming to nothing". Hebrews 6:5 "Who have tasted the goodness of the word of god and the powers of the coming age". and in Revelation 15:3 "Great and marvelous are you Lord God Almighty. Just and true are your ways, King of the Ages."
--The Sun, our Lord, is the King of the Ages and we are in the "End Times" and entering a "New Age". There is nothing to fear in this regard, of a "New Age" or the End Times".
The "Passover" is the Sun passing over into the Winter Solstice from the Fall Equinox. This too was borrowed from the Hebrews who borrowed it from the Egyptians.
mandalis wrote:what would the animal farm be without sheep
Yup and every animal farm has a toad and we love that noble creature too.
so you agree that his 'i agree with everything' comment was bleating? i am not a toad, and I do not appreciate you trying to label me as one ... I also am not impressed by your false and hollow affection like I am not impressed by your false and hollow religion ... this is why the Catholic church masters laugh at your ignorant protestant heresies ... so you think you have the knowledge to interpret scripture do you? why do you think the priests would study ancient Greek? was it not to understand their mythology? spare me your hollow sympathy and your false praise ... i am like the statue of a Buddha ... your criticisms leave me unmoved and your praises are met only with silence ... your love is like the love of an insurance salesman ...
There's my two cents since you're so fond of money.
keep your money and your simpleton anti-semetic ignorant holier than thou protestant heresies that only alienate and condescend while pretending to be loving ... save yourself because your Jesus cannot save you ... the Buddha did not come begging with a bowl for money but to save people's souls by teaching them compassion and non-attachment ... when his disciples were forbidden to have anything else and started collecting begging bowls, he smashed them to pieces and said ' I have taken you away from your family and property and everything earthly for which you have attachment, yet you still lust for your begging bowls ... '
