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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Anti-depressants make you shop?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully said, thank you <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> My journey has been very similar. The most important thing I learnt is that there is no reason to be afraid of sorrow and suffering.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=10866#p10866</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ermolai wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Depression is a natural process during which the person attempts to get back in touch with his/her soul / life force. Toxic medicines only prevent this process to be completed.</p></blockquote></div><p>Agreed.</p><p>American culture (and many other modern cultures blindly following suit) says we must have constant happy faces.&nbsp; Perform, perform!&nbsp; Run, rabbit run.</p><p>Natural energy levels fluctuate.&nbsp; Sometimes we need to move inward, hibernate.<br />Sometimes we need to relax and practice the art of doing nothing.</p><p>But many get stuck in depression because they are still committed to the game, believing the pretense to be real and then being upset with themselves for not fitting into that falsehood.</p><p>So for those who are stuck in depression and feel isolated, it might help to confirm that there is a greater Truth than the one they were fed by their sick and ailing culture.&nbsp; </p><p>I guess this folds back in on your quote, because if we were going to be real as a society we would not force drugs down the throats of the many, many individuals who are falling into depression, but take a real look at WHY this is happening in such great numbers.</p><p>Even if it is a natural part of emotional cycles, the clinical &quot;stuck&quot; depression that is so prevalent is a red flag.&nbsp; It is remarkable to me how many people in my general circle of aquaintances, friends and family are on some kind of mood-stabilizer.<br />And when I suggest that this might not be the best course of action, most people are so, so quick to defend these pharmeceuticals....</p><p>&quot;She just needs it right now&quot;</p><p>&quot;It&#039;s helping her, at least she can function.&quot;</p><p>We are so afraid to STOP.&nbsp; Stop functioning!&nbsp; Stop juggling, stop running, stop being busy, stop avoiding.</p><p>My depression came so hard that there was nothing that could have broken it.&nbsp; I needed to STOP and examine and question.&nbsp; And I questioned EVERYTHING!&nbsp; I was being pushed into directions that were wrong for my soul.&nbsp; I am so grateful that I didn&#039;t end up on chemicals that might have kept me sailing in the wrong direction.</p><p>What a beautiful, difficult journey.&nbsp; What a blessing.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=10859#p10859</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Depression is a natural process during which the person attempts to get back in touch with his/her soul / life force. Toxic medicines only prevent this process to be completed.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (ermolai)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=10807#p10807</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I like the bit in the film Waking Life where one character mentions how exciting this current &quot;historical&quot; period of humanity is, and that whatever you do, don&#039;t be bored!!</p><p>I think a lot of people who are depressed are just missing a couple pieces that would allow them to verify the bigger picture and trust their gut.&nbsp; So they become isolated, not knowing that many people see what they see and have been there, and that there is Truth beyond their state of sinking oblivion.</p><p>We are at such an important juncture, it is a sin to be depressed!&nbsp; Awaken, rejoice, get into life....we need you and your creative spark!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I also think one reason for depression is a lack of a sense of purpose and a loss of direction;&nbsp; When a person feels they have no purpose, nothing exciting that&#039;s worth getting up for in the morning, no direction, that leads to stagnation which seems to then spiral into depression.&nbsp; &nbsp;In these modern times, many people&#039;s lives lack purpose and direction. </p><p>Compulsive shopping is result of &quot;trying to fill a void.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;Be endlessly on the prowl for cool things to buy which temporarily makes you feel good, gives you something to do and provides distraction for real problems that need to be dealt with.&nbsp; &nbsp;People with a &quot;need&quot; to shop in my opinion are all people who are uneasy and feeling empty with nothing better to do with themselves.&nbsp; Just my two cents.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (lyra)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh Soloflecks, sooooo true, especially the part about stopping concentrating on themselves and start thinking about and acting on behalf of others.&nbsp; I happen to work with many psychiatrists, and it takes great restraint keeping my mouth shut; especially if the psychiatrist has an &quot;Apollo complex&quot;-must say it gets the creative juices flowing as far as communicaiton goes.&nbsp; Believing in the &quot;Big Lie&quot; is so often engrained that some people get really scared to face it, let alone remotely question/consider this at all (the Big Lie).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=10754#p10754</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>You gotta love the absolute and total HYPOCRISY that runs rampant in the pharmaceutical industry.&nbsp; They&#039;ll show commercials on TV for various drugs for things like depression, sexual dysfunction, commercials like the one tillibullu described above, then &quot;the powers that be&quot; turn around and proclaim that illegal &quot;street&quot; narcotics which are also mood modifiers are illegal.&nbsp; &nbsp;In fact, you&#039;ll go to prison for YEARS if caught posessing or selling them.&nbsp; Does this MAKE any sense??!?&nbsp; &nbsp;No, of course not.</p><p>I&#039;m preaching to the choir too on this one, I&#039;m sure, but it&#039;s really irking me the more I think about it.</p><p>If anybody ever hears somebody talking about &quot;drug dealers&quot; or &quot;drug addicts&quot; or what a crime drugs are, ask them if they&#039;ve ever taken medication.&nbsp; Pain meds, meds for post-surgery pain, psychological meds....ask them if they have any family members who are on meds.&nbsp; &nbsp;Point out the hypocrisy.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=10731#p10731</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I know I am preaching to the choir here, but anyway....</p><p> I remember watching this ad on teevee whilst in a laundromat.&nbsp; It was a cartoon character feeling sad, with rain constantly falling on him.&nbsp; Then he took this drug and the sun shined again....</p><p>The message was, &quot;Something is wrong or deficient in you, the individual&quot;.&nbsp; Of course society is not questioned.&nbsp; There is no questioning of the larger picture.....</p><p>we know HOW to elevate mood with drugs.&nbsp; </p><p>But we forget to ask WHY so many people are depressed in the first place.</p><p>Also, if this American system is supposed to create such great privilege for white men, why is it that white males have the highest rate of suicide in the U.S., way above and beyond the rates of other groups (by gender, race)???</p><p>Average people don&#039;t ask &quot;WHY?&quot;</p><p>And Soloflecks, word-up on your comments!&nbsp; We ARE love, and I am learning to understand this and gradually gaining greater strength and peace as I come to know this truth.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=10719#p10719</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Great comments from everyone.&nbsp; At the heart of it, depression is caused by feelings of helplessness and unworthiness arising out of the lies we believe about ourselves.&nbsp; This is where psychiatry fails, because shrinks went through the same domestication process we did and, like us, do not recognize the lies they themselves believe.&nbsp; They proclaim a diagnosis which merely enforces the lie that there&#039;s something wrong with us and put us on drugs that separate us from our emotions but do not engage productive self-examination at the same time.&nbsp; So our conflicts continue with the drugs dampening the emotional response so we seem &quot;better&quot; at least to others.&nbsp; Really all that does is manage our behavior according to accepted norms; it&#039;s never going to &quot;cure&quot; anything.&nbsp; It still leaves our personal power locked in the hands of others.</p><p>That&#039;s why people often have breakthroughs when they stop concentrating on themselves and start thinking about and acting on behalf others.&nbsp; It&#039;s a way to step back from our own ego and emotions, and one result is that we can see ourselves better.&nbsp; We can see that we are love, because it&#039;s reflected back to us when we share it with others.&nbsp; When we see that we are love, many of the lies we believe about ourselves begin to break down, and we start to love ourselves.&nbsp; This empowers us from inside to take responsibility for our lives.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2004 14:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>chinesejycc wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>wut i heard about anti-depressants is that when you get off the drug you begin to have violent tendencies ... <br />MEDS ARENT THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING</p></blockquote></div><p>Right on.&nbsp; From what I&#039;ve learned simple good diet, exercise (especially cardiovascular) and rest play a major role in maintaining proper mood.&nbsp; I have personal experience with St. John&#039;s Wort as well and it can be quite helpful for minor cases.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2004 09:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Moralman wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This is one of the reasons why I think Wrestling will survive the shift 2012-McMahon created a product that removes depression of everyday life and Illuminati scams.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>I have now officially heard it all.</p><p>WMHAOI</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2004 01:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friends<br />kind regards<br />I advise anyone against taking anti-depressants.<br />Nearly everything that Doctors give us are no good for our health.<br />I think half the time doctors, dentists and vets manufacture problems in order to heal them.<br />I have a few tips to help with depressing.<br />1. Find a hobby to take up.<br />Whenever I get depressed I watch WWF and my depression dissapears.<br />Seeing as though all of the TV Evangelists are called Doctors...........Vince McMahon should be called a Doctor too.<br />This is one of the reasons why I think Wrestling will survive the shift 2012-McMahon created a product that removes depression of everyday life and Illuminati scams.<br />2. Look on the bright side of life.<br />3. Shun medications at every opportunity-they make things worse.<br />I hope that my contribution to this thread has been of valid use to someone.<br />yours thankfully<br />John</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2004 19:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>chinesejycc wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>wut i heard about anti-depressants is that when you get off the drug you begin to have violent tendencies.</p></blockquote></div><p>yes, if they are stopped suddenly instead of gradually.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (ermolai)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2004 13:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=10368#p10368</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>There was ?researcher? that said the best ani-depressant is to actually get the person out and serve. Whether service projects or at soup kitchens how ever, where ever...serve?</p><p>Don&#039;t know the first name last name was Meininger I think.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (T-Ren)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2004 05:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=10355#p10355</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>wut i heard about anti-depressants is that when you get off the drug you begin to have violent tendencies. I heard of a kid getting off of the drugs who killed his grandparents, and a college girl who jumped out the window when she went off the drug. DEPRESSION IS NORMAL. I am very depressed, when i wake up in the morning i am depressed as shit. Just because u are depressed does not mean u will kill urself. like tillibullu it has caused me to question life, and to look at everything we do everyday from many different perspectives. If Depression is part of ur nature u should not change it. when u try to change ur nature it is impossible u just end up screwing urslef more than when ur depressed. </p><p>MEDS ARENT THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2004 03:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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