Also, the so called "friends", instead of healing for that pain themselves released, they transpassed their bad energies to you, that´s why the desire of trowing up. Maybe.

U sould avoid those persons, or similar, they are psychical vampires.

I'm curious as to what part of nevers' comment disturbed you, and why.

-how were you breathing (shallow? deep? slow, etc)
-what was your posture: contact with earth, feet relaxed? tense? knees? neck relaxed? tense? back straight or curved. head hanging heavily in the empty or aligned and supported lightly by the neck, eyes, relaxed? squinted? tense?...Look stuck on one spot or freely scanning the horison from time to time.
-your inner dialogue: you were relaxed inner silence? or a few words turning in loops? a defensive dialogue about the 'self'? judgements about yourself, light humour? etc..
-were you hungry, just normal?, eaten too much? did you have lots of coffees, or sugar, etc

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i try to help put your attention on the elements listed above (posture, breath, inner silence/dialogue), contact with the earth, etc, because these elements are extremely crucial to how one FEELS at any time. Life is before all a feeling.

I am doing the same practical tasks of stalking my position (the things above) lately and am absolutely amazed at how a tense neck or an imbecilic loop inner dialogue can go ustopped and unexamined for hours andthus completely defining everything: our mood, our energy circultaion, our sense of humour and dettachment and even the circumstances that happed to pop-up around us.

When one has tracked ones, twice three times their position then they notice that the energy blocking/draining attitudes are repetitious in a routine and that they are not that many (but are persistent).

So now you've tracked and stalked yourself and you have a more or less clear picture of "what gets" you. The next strategic (warrior always strategic-and humour and delicateness/elegance--with these three you'll go very far:) step is to purposefully disrupt the routine when it appears. You don't go: "ok, there i go--perfect, straight, relaxed, deep slow breath, etc.." because somethings has "gotten" you and you may be just on your way to repeat the pattern and get tense and loose energy. So it is hard to fix all at once at such moments. What you do is you trickilly change only one element of the whole 'position'. I've learned that a habit needs only one of it's elements missing or slightly changed and it looses its force over you.This is to apply "not doing" (where "doing" is your usual reactions and routines. It can also be seen as Introducing an Element of Dissonance. Remember, a habit, a person (your perception of it), an idea, needs all of its elements to have power over you.

In this sense, Harry Potter is is not at all to be taken lightly: they were teaching kids to change an element of the whole in something or someone that scared them. Next thing they knew was a caricature that made them laugh.

In a missaligned tense posture ane may look/brush the horizon to look for advice there or to break tense eyes fixation, or may start to breath deeply on purpose (you can never worry and breath slowly and deeply in the same time, not possible), can moove frozn feet even among people and feel the earth, your imagination is the limit! You are magical being, it is syntactical commands and the "social order"that dictate you to stiffen but that's only when you forget that you can change things.

It may be mentioned also that it does not mean obvious "strange" behaviour or need for attention. It is your strategy to be free. Very important to my feeling is that one should never get disappointed by falure and should always advance in "small steps" at a time. Delicateness, elegance summon power and energy.

Concerning the "suggestions" by your two fellows in your story. Probably you should know that what we see is dictated by what description we uphold. If you may find yourself a little low on energy someone can come and force a descritption upon you (you have a beast, etc) and then it can make you perceive things or hook your energy into part of your body or an idea, etc.

Descriptions are like software--they can define how things function, what input triggers what reaction, etc. That's why in the MAtrix was emphasized that the residual self image is nothing but a description, a program. Religion is such a description too and it collect great great crops of guilt, docility and fear from time immemorial. The mind is the hard disk where they write the softawres, the descriotions of how things are, but then the rebels say Free Your Mind. The mind is freed through stopping mental loops (especially the ones that are worries for the "self"). Then if this is practiced regularly a delicious inner silence give place for different things to be perceived and to become guiding force.

They want us overfed with their syntax of the Cult of "Me". Then we get into inner dialogue, postures, no breath, judging, petty, stiff, sedated, stuck and this whole thing functions as a current in the sense that it renews in a chain reaction..Stopping the current from time to time. Introducing dissonance elements. Not doings of the self. Cahnging a routine on purpose. Small things, smiling to people lightly from time to time. Then you gain a little more energy, you React less to people and things that get you, and then something else starts to flow--another current--but this time it's a current of energy. And the other current is the so called "river of shit". You can recognise the river of shit flowing in you when everything around looks shitty, world, people, all. But then you are worrior and you are never disappointed and you act strategically. You take a pause. If one persist they say we never go back to the oozing wormth of the river of shit. And you are vibrant with energy:)

hope this can be of any use to anyone,
your fellow traveller

Here's an alternative:
http://www.drgenescott.com/thearchives.htm

I agree that a truly God inspired message is always fear-free. It's calming or positively energizing, never filled with doubt or terror. I agree with Kaybal, that most of them are probably organic portals, and it would be best to deal with them skillfully component by component. Once you do, that particular hellish dispensation of hyper-D control will abate.

Out of curiosity, with the mention of the "Christ consciousness" on this site how many people have read the bible or after doing all the reading of The Ra material and the cassiopaeans etc, have gone back to read the bible and being able to read it in a different or with greater insight?

T-Ren,

From my own studies of spirituality and various religions, I think the quick and simple answer to this question is that there is an underlying theme to many different paths, and that is that there exists a Spirit force which is there to guide people who are willing to listen to it.  My experience is that it's always been there, in the back of my mind.  You're free to ignore it, which most people do to one extent or another..."many will be called, but few will answer."  It goes by various names and metaphors in different religions and ancient stories.  The bottom line, as far as I understand it, is that it exists within each of us, and if you get in tune with it and suborninate your reasoning, logical mind to IT, amazing things can happen.  Doing so for someone who has never considered the possibility before constitutes a leap of faith, so to speak. 

Probably for the same reason the suicide bombers gravitate towards Islam .. because that's their base-layer programming which in most cases was done at an early age.   It's THEIR REALITY TUNNEL and, to a large extent, their "free will" choices might only exist within the confines of their religious training.  Maybe they'd open up a bit if we laced their punch with mushroom juice and locked them in a room for a few days with a Vedic guru or something, but failing that it's probably best to avoid those people unless you have a reason to be around them.  Their influence can't be too healthy for you.

"The main functions of an OP are any or all of the following:
“¢ Steer you off course in life, derail you, and sabotage you
“¢ Sap your energy.
“¢ Keep you in line with the Matrix Control System."

For more information on these dangerous beings and how to deal with them:

Organic Portals:
http://www.montalk.net/matrix/60/organic-portals-part-i

Organic Portals - The "Other" Race:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm

2) are able to detect people like yourself who may be more "in-tune," or freethinking, or having some true connection to the Spirit.  They will then, using their cover of "religious people," claim they can see that you have "Satanic influences."....#2 here I think is an important point though .. THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE in a fundamental spiritual way and can target you without you necessarily being aware of it.

Holy schmolies, you summed up my own situation, right there!  That was EXACTLY it.  There were those of us on the forum posting about the kinds of topics you'd find here at Noble Realms....abductions, ear ringings, metaphysical stuff that DIDN'T involve the Catholic Church and involved a more free thinking, liberating point of view.  Shiiiii-iiite............we were THE devil incarnate to these people.  Evil, Witches, demons...possessed, to hear them tell it.   If it weren't for the cool people who were highly responsive and thankful for those topics then I (and others) would have bailed out.  It was a constant barrage of names and attacks about how evil and demonic and Satanic we were. The ULTIMATE irony was that the very people claiming to be "Christian" were acting in the most UN Christian manner imaginable.  It was a travesty.  I had supporters emailing myself and others like me off the board saying exactly what you just wrote above. 

Yup.  My ex-boyfriend's mom was a fringe Catholic nutter who was into the "speaking in tongues" thing.  She wasn't all there.  Had big empty "crazy eyes" as I call it.  Would corner people and barrage them with nonsense questions, or get all religous and nutty....similar to what 3.27.....et al wrote.     It's sad, but these people exist.  It's like, what the hell went wrong in their lives????  For me the intriguing question is, Why do they gravitate to Christianity, and oftentimes *Catholicism* in general?? Very interesting indeed.

Stay away, is the best advise.  Run for the hills.

Excellent points and very good focus.

Black Box put good in another thread "some people are ignorant in their positivity."

I know the question was for moralman, but I would like to answer as well.

I think Jesus was more human than any of us in that he lived as God (one consciousness, whatever) intended. By living as God intended he also become the Christ and was God manifest.

Out of curiosity, with the mention of the "Christ consciousness" on this site how many people have read the bible or after doing all the reading of The Ra material and the cassiopaeans etc, have gone back to read the bible and being able to read it in a different or with greater insight?

1) control peoples' minds.  Especially vulnerable are the sheeplike follower-types who are willing to believe anything someone else (like their Church) tells them.

2) are able to detect people like yourself who may be more "in-tune," or freethinking, or having some true connection to the Spirit.  They will then, using their cover of "religious people," claim they can see that you have "Satanic influences."

3) use "laying on of hands" energy manipulation for negative purposes.

Most of us probably guessed #1 ... when you listen to these programmed people, it's frightening and some of them truly do seem to be possessed.  #2 here I think is an important point though .. THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE in a fundamental spiritual way and can target you without you necessarily being aware of it.

I would like to apologize in place of the people you encountered.

I do not think Jesus would approve of how they handled this. Much like I have learned here about freewill...I do not think that Jesus would violate this. All the "healings" and "casting out of demons" were initiated by the individual our the parents responsible for them. The other option was when the "demon" made itself known. Neither of your encounters were like these.

I would say what you experienced was them trying to impose their will on you in a misguided, ignorant yet "well meaning" way (from their perspective).

It is this ignorance that lead me to seek other teaching. They got the horse before the cart. They wanted to dance with the Holy Spirit yet wanted to lead, so they wound up dancing alone.

I would be cautious about hanging with them anymore...they could become more adamant and forceful or cutting and sarcastic. If you do decide to talk with them, point out like I said, where did the healings start.

Also have them read on the Holy Spirit. One of the "characteristics of the Holy Spirit is a deep abiding peace" not painful burning and definitely not fear.

Just some thoughts.